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what line of pits are these ?  any of yall out there own any ? thanks

ChaseG pit is game bred. Ask him.

There are too many to list. Better question is where are you gonna find one. Not many true game bred dogs left. Mostly junky bred pits. Lotta folks throw around bloodline names but that's only good for a couple of generations.

I have plenty what blood line you looking for boudreaux. Red. Boy. Patrick nigerino

I feed some old school blood bulldogs. Most folks won't be quick to advertise the fact anymore. It's EXTREMELY rare for me to breed my bulldogs nowadays, let alone allow any to leave the yard. You'll find someone though I'm sure. Good luck.

Boudreaux bloodline. I own one

thanks guys i was just trying to find out some bloodlines for a future breeding and opions on some of them and where to find em ! thanks

The bloodline of a catchdog is a lot less important than the individual dogs temperment. The crazy acting ones are a liability whether at home or hunting.

The temperment on a game pit is very bad...it took me along time to brake mine and he still acts up every now and then but he knows that if im around he better listen.

By "bad" do you mean dog aggressive? I have performance bred bulldogs and I would not consider ANY of their temperments "bad." Dog aggression, yes for some of them, but they are what they are. Now if you're speaking of human aggression, any bulldog (APBT) that is a man biter should be culled.

Yea dog aggresive

mine are good dogs , no dog aggression in the field , I have a chow on a 30 yrd shock system that pisses at the edge of his area which is about ten yrds from my male bulldog , this seems to really make george want to get him other than that there is no issues,  in my mind it is the owner of the animal that determines how the dog is gonna act in most cases , a mirrior of its master , a dog of this type needs a firm handle and not for everyone , I made a breeding with my bulldogs , kept my pick and gave out pups to a select few , one mans pups[2] killed a few goats while the owner was at work  , I found new homes for the pups , one of the two killed the new owners dog and ate half of it while he was at work , I would have culled this one for sure but he gave it away to someone else , bad mistake on my part and a good lesson learned on giving a bulldog a home , he didnt believe the dog should be culled and now theres a ticking time bomb in someone elses back yard

Throwing a generality out there that all game bred temperments are bad is a fallacy. Granted your odds go way up with lines that are closer to the pit but many lines out there are less dog aggressive and many individual dogs are less aggressive. I agree with the statement that all APBT's with human aggression need to take a dirt nap. Getting these dogs focused on hogs early so they know what their job is lets them focus the aggression.

What I get sick of is when I see people actually complain about dog aggression or high prey drive in the american pit bull terrier. You cannot train the genetics out of a dog, no matter how hard you try. Yes, some folks can and do start early with their bulldogs to condition them to be tolerant of other dogs while out hunting....and that is great, because they sure do make some great catch dogs. But you can STILL never fully trust a bulldog not to fight, and he/she can surely finish one if provoked. If people want a dog park/dog pack  friendly kinda dog, the APBT is not the breed for you. In fact, I have found that there ALOT of folks out there that have no business even owning one. It's like, buying a beagle, and getting pissed or bi*ching at the dog because it wants to take off and trail scents all day. Not to offend or be condenscending to ANYONE'S dog in any way, but blue dogs seem to work pretty well for CD's because they typically are watered down and/or crossed with mastiff somewhere down the line, hence the higher level of dog tolerance. NOT to say a blue dog can't be dog aggressive. My own mother in law owns a blue Am Staff that will jump on any and every dog she can if given the chance., but it's definately not as common. Plus, "game" is a word that is VERRRRRY over/mis used nowadays. It's confusing to me that people who want dog tolerant/cold bulldogs actually go seek "game bred" or battle bred lines. I run old school blood, that's not very common anymore, and I do use a couple of these dogs to catch, but the couple I do use have to be crated seperate from the dog box, and led in to the bay. When they hear that hog they know what time it is. I enjoy using my bulldogs as catch dogs, but all in all I know and understand and accept what breed they are and what they are capable of, and I do not and will not ever fault them for it. 

I agree with mrslousianahogdog. It is hard no matter how hard you try especially if it was bred a game dog. My dog runs to the bay every time and catches and he wont even pay attention to the other dogs now. It was very hard to get him to learn about hogs because he just wanted to attack anything. I know my dog will give his live for me if he has 2 and I will do the same for him because he is my family

you talking about porkchop??

I have one male 2 years old whos snooty/eli/redboy and a year old female snooty/eli... Ive only had my male jump on a dog once and that was because the male cur i use to own would always walk up to him in the woods and growl at him , one day at home i was cleanin kennels that cur dog got froggy and growled again at my male pit (Jag) and lets just say he never tried my pit ever again. I got both dogs as pups and disciplined aka good ass woopins for any growling, or aggression signs. I only use game bred pitbulls for catch dogs because the drive/determination is extremely high. A true game bred dog will die on a hog . Ive seen these so called backyard pitbulls get cut/or knocked back by a hog and CULL. Ive only been hunting for 10 years or so but ive never seen A TRUE GAME BRED PITBULL give up on a hog. My male weighs 45lbs and female weighs 36-37 lbs. Ive learned that starting them young on hogs is the key and @ any sign of growling/aggression is NOT TOLERATED.

Also I never leave my dogs ecpecially my game bred pits loose when im not outside.

I agree with nearly everything you say Mrs LHD as I have had some of that same blood you have talked about. I have changed lines over to the Jeep Rascal Redboy over the last 15 years and have found that they are more thinkers than reactors. Not sayin mine are better than anyone elses but they seem too fire up a little slower than the Tonka/Bolio I used to have. I can ride my dogs in the 4 wheeler trailer while hunting. Don't think I would do it in the dog box where I couldn't see what was happening. And no I don't sell or give any dogs away unless you are a 10 yr. friend or have owned these type dogs for years. I don't believe you need a game bred dog for catching either or these AB's and Dogo's and curs couldn't do it. So your point about the blue ones is spot on. If you can get one leggy enuf to run most will work. Again it is the individual dog not the line. And I hate the word "gamey cause it don't mean schat.

I think thats him.

he's so pretty. looks just like his daddy..i tried to buy him back but i don't think he will let me lol

in my younger years my grandfather and uncle raised carver pits thers a term they used when a dog got at the age to see if he was a good competition dog my grandfather would say its time to start the pups. once you do this there is no turning back.if its a true bread pit its nature for him to fight and kill.you may think you have him or her under control,when that dog starts fighting its what he wants to do and loves to do. there not like a toy you can turn a switch and make them stop. i love and admire true bread pits the old bloodlines.it takes a special person to raise and take care of them properly they are still out there but the people who have them are very protective of letting them out to the public for good reason.

Hell, gamebred.....thats easy go to the source.....put some terrier back in there....patterdale works real well, those litlle nazi buggers probably would do the trick also. LMAO

I've always said, a Patterdale is a terrier body with a bulldog heart! I'll always feed a few!

Here is what a true game bred Champion dog looks like and producer of Champions  and his true pedigree.
 
A true game bred dog .

Champion Bandit
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=336558

Texashogdogs,

I have a friend that raises those red ones about that size...he used to take them to louisiana, mexico, south america and canada...still raises them but does not compete any more...

Another great dog Ripper.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=15509


Another great one and the tightest bred Nigerino dog in the world at the time my old Gringo dog .  I had 30 somethings straws of sperm  taken from him by international canine gentics and stored in Symbotics in S.D. Calf right now .  Never been used .
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=17254

Yeah Rueben I dont even own a bulldog no more other than my old catch dog Bo.  Lots of years went into all them dogs .  I loved the Red dogs and the Black ones.  Just thought I would throw those up there for people to see.

Where's Axle?

Buddy of mine now has him ......

I know my rooster dog will stop a hog

Ooooooh my......if only everyone had the knowledge to realize just how well bred those dogs are. I'd loved to have been able to put my hands on them dogs back in the day!

Would you be interested in selling a straw or 2 off that dog if so you can send me a pm

No not really I have had it put up now for a long time now.  I figure when I get about 60 am gonna take some of it and breed some select females that I got put back at a buddys.  Dont think for a min all the great game bloodlines are gone because that is the furtherst from the truth you just got to know who is who .  I know were there is some sperm put up on a dog that has been in the sperm bank since the late 70's the dog  is a brother to Gonzale's No Regrets  Am sure some of you fanicers will know who that ole dog is a ole ole friend of mine owned a ton of them dogs,  He also owned dogs off of Eli Jr, Brendy ,  he was great friends with Grady Cummings ,  also the man that owned the ole Maw bitch that is the foundation to all the White bloodline that Alien & Bullnumber 2 came from the White Bandit bloodline. He owned dogs off of Holts Jermiah was great freinds with Roland Fonento knew Pit General presonaly and it just goes on for days with bulldogs for me.   I owned some great ones but he owned alot more and is older than myself.  Its who you know is were the dogs are .

I sent you a PM

TexasHogDogs...I love the pedigree on this dog...And like the dog as well...I wouldn't hesitate to put a quarter of this blood in some good mtn curs...I like gritty, rough and catchy curs...

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=17254

Yeah Reuben he was a great great dog and bred second to none when it came to bulldogs.  I was offered tons of money for that dog as a matter of fact 18,000.00 at one time all laid out on the table and turned it down my wife like to had a double heart attack at the time but there is just somethings that didn't have a price to me at that time .  He was one of a kind no other brothers no other sisters.  This dog was great with people but one bad bad Ambre when it came to other dogs and that included females and even in heat he could not be bred.  I myself and some of the very best dogmen in Texas tried to help me get him bred there was no way !

Some how some way he ate a purple collar that he got a holt of some were I have no ideal till this day .  I have never owned a purple collar in my life anyway had to take him to the vet they had to do surgery on him to get it out .  He came out of it great but a month later started coughing really really bad .  I took him back they said he developed heart failure and we like to had a killing at the vet that day because this dog was perfect and they done something when they took the collar out .  Anyways I was told if I was going to get pups out of him I better do it now but there was no way with the way he was .  So I called ICG and one of there vets ICG Certifided over in Hamilton TX drew the sperm from him and sent it to Symbotics in SD Calif ,  I had it all certified there and DNA tested .  So there would be no doubts in the future when it was used. I pay on it yearly .

If there are any bitches wothy of that semen they're on this here yard! I can say that with confidence. Would love to work somethin' out.