EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

puppy bay

1st- Rimfire kennels with "GHOST"
2nd- Jimmy Jones with "APACHE"
3rd- Cammie Mathews with "JIGGER-DOO"

One Dog

1st- Ronald Hill with "SALAMANDER"
2nd- Rimfire Kennels with "ODDBALL"
3rd- Michael Batton with "BO" split w/ Liz Fleener with "CHEYANE"

Old and Young

1st- Rimfire kennels with "ZING and GHOST"
2nd- Michael Batton and Jimmy Jones with "SADIE and APACHE"
3rd- Ashley Simms with "RUSTY AND RUCKUS"

Two Dog

1st- Tommy Daye with "HUDINI AND YELLOW"
2nd- Baby Boy Curs with "LUCKY AND BLUE"
3rd- Ronald and Mariann hill with "ZULA AND SALAMNDER"

Sportsmanship Award
Liz Fleenor

Dog Box Raffle Winner
Baby Boy Currs

High Point - Salamander,  Ronald Hill

Both the one dog and two dog winners should be considered pros now with well over 25 entries in both events.

And as a side note,  the high point dog wins a trophy and an envelope with money in it.
The 20% that boars nest takes of the Calcutta
is awarded to the high point dog.

Is there a pro class and woods/amateur class at Boars Nest?

KevinN, they didnt have a separate amature class and a pro class. Some bayings have the two separate, and the definition of a pro dog is one that has won 1st place with at least 25 or more entries usually!

Understood, but without two classes I guess it don't really matter. Lol

Nope, you just put alot of time and practice with your dogs to be the best to run against anyone.

Kevin,  if you go somewhere that has pro and am classes, they normally consider your dog a pro dog if it has won a class of 25 or  more excluding puppy or old and young classes. Also, the high point at boars nest is a combined score of your 1 dog run and your designated 2 dog run. If you double run your og in the 2 dog and don't designate a high point run, its automatically your first run. With the 20% of the calcutta it makes it a nice bonus.

Im glad everyone had fun cant wait to do it again well be baying again January 19, books open at 9 bayn starts at 10 thanks for everyone coming out it was alot of fun i think the pig scramble for the kids was the highlight of the evening, i will work up to having one dog pro and am and a woods class but were just not staffed for it this month in march we will have our first three day baying all weekend and im trying to put a woods dogs vs Bay Pen Dogs class in the works but havent got it all figured out yet let me know what you guys think

Might not want to have your first three day bay in march that's when earls is going on.

Earls will be march 20-24
Most of the folks that enter will be at Earls.

  lot's of folks want to go to a good bay to warm up their dogs before earls .

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Thats Understandable just seems that you wouldn't want your first multiple day bay in the same month as the biggest bay of the year. A lot of money to be out paying pen help and buying stuff for the concession stand just to have a small gathering is all I was getting at.

With a nice pen, people are gonna show up. If its a big payout, more people and better dogs are gonna show up. More people and better dogs mean better competition. Sounds like a great warm up for the biggest bay in the world.

All that being said...."Added Money" is a good incentive to insure a large turnout. If you could get a good cash sponsor you've got it made.

Wasn't saying it wasn't a good pen if I came across that way didn't mean too. I had a blast at the last one and probably met a few of yal there. I know I met halfbreed and ill prolly swing by for one of the days in march of I happen to be off. I was just putting my 2 pennies in.

I think earls is the third weekend in march. If they wanted to have before earls then heck yeah people will want to work/compete with dogs before then. I've heard lots of good things about this pen and plan to go in jan

Well everything you heard is probably true. They have a really good start and more good things to come from what I heard at the last one.

   hell when they have the next one people need to wear name tags on their jackets with their screen name from here lol , everybody knows my ugly mug i ain't a bit bashfull about it , hell i'm a handsom rascal no doubt  lol

Pretty good idea might have to do that. It'd sure make it easier to put faces with names

im glad everyone is excited about our next baying and it will be January 19th or the third Saturday of every month i have some plans for the march bayin and there will be added money in the pot enough to make you blink a couple of times yes uncle earls is in march and i will be going to earls this year just wanna have a good warm up bayin before earls itll be good practice for earls. ill post a january flyer here after while hope to see everybody out again and hopefully some new faces half breed hope to see you out there again, i think your gyp is ready

good deal i'll be there , maybe with a couple ol pot lickers . just give me a shout when would be a good time to pick ol beulla up and i'll come get her  . i got my daughter coming in today so maybe this weekend or something just whenever is good for you  .

im going hunting thursday in canton i can bring her with me and meet you there somewheres shes a good well mannered dog pretty too ought to be some jam up pups the last pups out of bear just about hit the ground hunting

  sounds good cody just holla at me  .

Cody, Earl's is the NFR ~ of Hog Baying..... We plan for Earl's a in year advance, its our yearly vacation. Everyone has to have entry money and other things paid for in the month of Febuary, before the baying in March... It will be  more of a  monetary situation for people to attend a big show before Earl's. Maybe a big show in April.... this will give folks a chance to recoupe from Earl's.

5L has a big one in april though.

 Entry fees are no more than normal I'm assuming so the monetary demand isn't much different than a single day bay (its still cool enough to camp, don't spend money on hotel). The only difference is - added money to purse = more entries = more time needed for each event, hence three days instead of 1.

If there is $300-$500 added money to the single events and $500-$1000 added to Two dog events you WILL draw a crowd. Whatever month you chose.

That being said....a mid to late summer bay would ensure that your three day bay is HUGE!

Hog feed must be cheap where you are!  You should trying putting on a bay and adding that much extra money.  You barely make enough to pay the help , light bill, and keep the hogs in good shape .

Lol, I don't own a bay pen. If I did the money sure as heck wouldn't come out of MY POCKET!!!

Sponsors! Sponsors! Sponsors! Hotels, campgrounds, feed stores, magazines, vendors. A little bit of money from a dozen or so sponsors can add up quick.

Oh, and "paying help????". What happened to pals/family? Get some young boys with dogs or something and offer free pen practice time.

good luck on that ! not to many sponsors for a hog trial if any not much money donated. and people to work for free! haha you cant hardly pay people to work these days also it for a successful pen you need good pen help. hogs and dogs gotta be in and out quickly to keep show movin. on a big trial most the time when you put young fellas in there people get upset or board and dogs get hurt.

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Just remembering the old days I guess. Most people, my self included were more than happy to work the pen. In fact, ill volunteer if I come up in Feb.

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We arnt gonna go take our dogs out the same month as earls and take the chance of our dogs getting hurt or killed and loosing our entry fee money! We start looking forward to earls as soon as we leave the parking lot every year. It's our yearly vacation! I think if you wanna have a big baying, don't do it in march!

I figured others would eventually chime in.  Not only us but if your trying to draw a big crowd that would mean people out of state to and that's just more money out of pocket and juggling time off and kids time out of school twice in one month for them

i agree with all these statements,  but cody u do your thing run it how you want you may break the mold of people not doin good around big bays because of what spencer said. but hey you put enough added money in pot and you never know what will happen. Besides they may cancel earls right at last min. never know.

Cody we will be there! We ain't scared! Earl's ain't. Like it use to be there are old timers that don't even go to earls to run dogs they go to visit!

Cody, do what you want, but if you wanna draw more people from out of state, and all over Texas, do it after earls. If not then you will have a lot of locals like last time minus the ones from out of state. This is just my .02. I'm not scared to run my dogs, but I'm not gonna take the chance of getting our dogs hurt right before Earls, and I'm sure others feel the same way.

I agree with Spence, April would be a better turnout for a 3 day event. Unless you wanted to do a one day a few weeks before and then the 3 day in April,  ;D Jmo

Im not sure exactly what were going to be doing in march just yet but i have to take care of the things that need taken care of now and with all the rain ive had to move pigs to put them in better condition i have laid a pad in the pigs pen  and will be pouring concrete on the next dry day and roofing in the mean time if  your gonna have livestock you gotta takje care of them like they should be and healthier cleaner hogs means healthier cleaner bays, i believer the hogs should be taken care of just as good as our dogs, so i may be canceling the bay in february depending on the weather i know its only our second bay and already canceling one but i have to do whats best for all the animals, with that being said yeah feed is high were feeding 14% right now and buying it by the ton and it almost 900 a month then yeah you pay ur help and well its a labor of love right now and its hard finding good people that can work or will work, but no matter what we are shooting to have a pen that suits almost everyone and has healthy working stock i appreciate everyone being involved and giving there opinions cuz theres alot of you guys that have been doing 10x longer than i have and i use every piece of advice given so i appreciate it ill work something out for march