EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Who hear has a HELIHUNTER around them?
What do you think about them?

next one i see flying around bristol is gonna get swated outta the sky.pisses me off and is taking everyonea hunting land

Tchunter, remember they hav guns n can shoot back too. Dont know where bristol is, but i'll make sure during my flt training, i'll stay away.
My plans are to get my fixed wing and rotory wing license n do the same. If it steps on toes, take it up with the land owner who is paying for service.

there doing the same thing up in the panhandle to, the deer hunters didnt have a good yr. at day lite they would fly an shoot several 100 rounds and nothing would move. they would fly off the land to try an turn the hogs to keep them on there side but messed up alot of paying hunters

The run a helicopter at my long time honey hole. It has no effect on my hunting. For one, they don't actuallly kill as many as they say. Two, there are plenty of hogs for both of us.

i lost 6k acres to the one in ellis county.one farmer paid him.he killed  am estimated 860 pigs with in a week.ever since then.every farmer in this area has been paying there damn life savings for the helli.pisses me off.and mbennets right.they dont stay on property.iv watched them numerous times fly off land and hogs around for that matter.
not worried if they shoot back.most are only two seaters.one shooter and piolet.i specialize in certain things.im just tired of hearing about it and seeing the remains of whats left.

If y'all had better dogs they wouldn't need to call out shooters. ;)
We don't have helicopter gunners in Georgia but the night vision hunters are taking quite a few hogs. I hunt mostly swamps so they don't affect my hunting too much.

If they r crossing onto private property u can call the faa n report their tail number n that goes for hurassment of the wildlife. I would also call in for the waist of meat. The faa dont put up with low flying wildlife and human harassment. Them helo pilots hav a job to do, but if they dont stik to their filed flight plan n path with out prior reqests n changes to their plan except for emergenies.

my dogs are just fine thankyou...i feel they get free roam of what ever the hell moves.no matter where its at.as if they dont have respect for other hunters having fun.there in it for the money not the sport.like most of us doggers are.we love to hunt..but to me there just out there to make a quick buck.

The word is a farm I hunt is gonna get one to come fly it. I don't think it will work as good here as out there. Kinda hard to get close enough to push them when there in 100' oaks and pines full of briar patches.

good to know charles.semper fi

Ur welcome tchunter. They need to obide by the aerial laws just as we have to obide by traffic, huntn n fishn laws. Oh n please dont shoot a helo, they tend not to glide to well n cant pull ovr on the side of the road. Them things fall like a 10tn boulder of mt rushmore.  ;D

They are generally doing a lil fibbing on the numbers of hogs they supposedly kill. Critter catcher had a spot last year that we took Around 4-500 hogs off of (big ones sure but most of the sheer numbers came in entire litters of young hogs getting wiped out with dogs mostly but trapping too.) and my point  is not to get pats on the back or anything, BUT I GARUNTEE YOU ray freaking Charles couldn't walk on that land and not find at least two carcasses on any given hike.

Next time a landowner says how many their helihunters killed, just be polite but insistent and ask how many carcasses they had personally laid eyes on.

CWard told me to ask that question and I am blessed to work on a big variety of ranches and still I hear the usual answer "oh I've seen a few of them"

If anyone killed even 40 hogs in a single day they ought to be pretty obvious.
See where I'm coming from?

Once i get my license, im gonna try to do it too, but my reasoning is to rack up flt hrs. I enjoyed putn lead down range in iraq at them insurgents but opposite to the insurgents, them pigs dont stink as bad and are ediable.  ;D

860 hogs in a week out of a wirly bird... Man I think someone is blowing smoke up your rear. That is ALOT of pigs even for a wirly bird. That is killing 21 hogs a hour, with 8 hours of air time a day. All on 6k acres.... We have been successful coming in after a helicopter and "cleaning" out the stragglers with dogs... In my opinion those are the two best ways to "eradicate" pigs!!!

  lol eradicate pigs  i like that,  and that is the end game . but east texas doesn't need to worry the helecopters are only good in open country .

Like that?? lol... I have learned to use words that people like to hear and make their dreams reachable!!!

Heck yeah.  Had a company called down a couple years ago and after meetings with the land owners and big promises they said they killed around 180 in a weekend but no one saw any carcasses and there were a lot of unhappy land owners.  Pilots admitted there was too much cover for the hogs.

Thats what FLIR is for. They can run, but they cant hide n will only die tired.  ;D

Ya I don't think they would fair to well in east texas

  well they might could see em charles but good luck getting a shot thru all them trees  lol lessen they was to try shooting 50's out of a 2 seater whirlybird .

that crap should be illegal , you dont see anyone flyin around up north in heavilly deer populated areas tryin to kill them off .

860 in a week is nothing. Ive gone up a few times and averaged 70 hogs/hr. They have been flying for a few years now around me and have probably killed 4-5000 hogs. It makes it a lot tougher running dogs but i understand why the farmers do it

Ar-10 would do the trick. They way burn through twice as much ammo cuttn tree tops n limbs outa the way but its doable, not as effective as in open terrain though.
Bigcutter, YES they do shoot deer from the air at ft campbell bc of its over population.

... and they have been doing coyotes for years also. ;)

  you doggers get out there and get busy killin hogs they wouldn't have had to resort to this  lol

It's been to my benefit. They shoot the hogs that run. They don't kill the ones that will just lay up and be still. That's perfect because I want the ones that lay up... And don't want the ones that run.  ;D

We had a pack of like 20 #60 last year. I don't want any part of that deal with dogs. The choppers can have all those they want.

I think those guys count dead hogs by how many bullets they have shot.  They prolly shoot 1,000 rounds and tell everyone they killed 1,000 pigs but i would be surprised if they could go find 100 dead hogs the next day.   

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 there is no way they r makin 1 shot 1kill from a movin shooting platform n shootn at a movin target.
During my 2 tours in iraq i would go through 5-20 rounds per engaged target from a helo

Its pretty bad when you can't hit a hog at 10ft with buck shot

if i was a farmer for a living and had a bad hog problem id rather have a heli hunter vs a couple dogs you will never ever kill them all but you can damn sure put a dent in the population out of the bird! we dont have to worry bout helihunters in central texas except a couple months out of the year when there aint no leaves on the trees so i aint to worried about em if it was free and i could go up and shoot some dang right id get up there and have a feild day on some pigs!

Tejas, im hopin this time nxt yr to hav my helo license. If ur game, i'll rent n fly n u can shoot till ur hearts content.

Thats not a problem around here anymore after they killed 2 or 3 cows.

Well sounds like yal got yal some real idiots down there if cows were shot! If someone cant tell a cow and a pig apart when your shooting from 60 feet out then they should not be shooting out of a bird!

They must grow hogs big in that part of tx.
 I agree, if a person cant tell cow from pig, he should only be givin a cork gun.

well we don't have alot of open land. they say the hog ran in the wood, and they just shot in the wood lines. trying to kill some and hit the cows. to me they are good idiots and bad idiots. to me they are some good ones, but to the owner they are the bad ones. if the helihunters fly over and start killing hog. we will all have to start hunting packs of dogo's. lol ( just a joke). you'll think the hog are running now.  

If i was the land owner, i'd file charges on the shooters. They couldnt indentifie their target but shot anyways. If they are (dont sound like they are though) ethical hunters, they would wait till they had a clear id b4 letting loose. I guess if they were in a stand they would shoot first n hope it wasnt a human walking in the woods. Damn city slickers.

I gun several times through the year mostly when leaves are off , we stay above the flight deck when fairying to the place we are going to hunt, we dont shoot everything that moves , and i can and do kill with one shot. You guys are talking about something you dont know number 2 about there has ben some pretty inteligent post on this subject i wander if most guys read there post back to thereselves before they post it? Naw i guess not!

Whether you want to believe it or not it does disturb other wildlife when you fly a helicopter down close to the ground to shoot at something and if your flying and not getting close to get an advantage well your probably stupid to start with. Nobody has to shoot a cow to kill it but they dang sure get scared and run into and over fences with helicopter pressure that is not in on them in a herding way. I think the helicopter can be done in a effective way but let's face it hogs are here to stay and what's happening more and more is rich boys want to shoot pigs from helicopters so the pilot has to produce pigs and that leads to crossing boundaries and unnecessary pressure many times.

Does any one else see the irony in a bunch of dog guys calling chopper guys outlaws? They kill what there not suppose to... Cross boundaries... Ruin our hunting.  :D its the circle if life.

so your telling me you never crossed a single  fence you werent suppose to dogging pigs? cause if that what you saying i call BS! cause if you are running dogs sometime sooner more then later your gonna cross a fence you werent suppose to!

You fellas that are threatining to shoot helicopters or makeing them come down on a puplic site are some real brain surgeons .  Think about what your posting you could be charged for terroristic threats wether you mean it or not. I gun out of chopper for my work and also run dogs you want sport go fishing face it this is a busines and dead is dead no matter the method so quit whineing and kill more and you want lose your places!!

Very well said hillcountry

No that's not what I was saying and after further review of this subject I feel stupid for even getting in the conversation.