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Title: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: hogdogger98 on February 06, 2013, 08:25:41 pm
I live in Arkansas where we don't have a huge population of hogs but it's getting bigger. I never killed hogs until last year I always just bayed em and moved them or let them go.  My question is do y'all kill hogs or just catch them. There are more hog hunters now that think kill everything. I believe if all hog hunters kill without restocking the population will be greatly reduced. What are y'alls thoughts?


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: Mason on February 06, 2013, 08:31:12 pm
I used to be a hog killer, eradication was my goal.  Now I'm a hog conservationist.


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: BA-IV on February 06, 2013, 08:38:51 pm
Catch, Barr, and Release  ;)



Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: Noah on February 06, 2013, 08:45:05 pm
I prefer to barr and turn them all loose... but if it means I have to agree to kill everything in exchange for property rights.... I can live with it  ;)


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: Acwells0808 on February 06, 2013, 08:51:02 pm
Catch and keep or sale.


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: Logan-99 on February 06, 2013, 08:56:07 pm
Kill! Tearing up hay fields and costing way too much money to let go, and in this county we will never catch them all. But have barred a few!!


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: cajunl on February 06, 2013, 09:34:57 pm
I get WAY more property by not killing than I ever got killing them. The ones that don't want them just want then gone but don't want them lying dead everywhere. I catch them where they don't want them and move them to the places that do! It's easy and everybody wins.  :)


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: halfbreed on February 06, 2013, 09:38:43 pm
 KILL KILL KILL !!!!!  lol  just depends on where you live . we will never ever run out of hogs in texas . if you hunt a place out just lay off it a couple of months it will fill back up  . with all the hunting and trapping pressure on hogs in texas the population still increases each year .


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: hogdogger98 on February 06, 2013, 09:57:24 pm
KILL KILL KILL !!!!!  lol  just depends on where you live . we will never ever run out of hogs in texas . if you hunt a place out just lay off it a couple of months it will fill back up  . with all the hunting and trapping pressure on hogs in texas the population still increases each year .
there are way more hogs now than 10 years ago, but thanks to all the tv shows that make it look cool we have more hog hunters than ever before. I care nothing killing a hog. My dogs chewed up a piggy sow today and I killed her I hated doing it but she would have died


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: Lance on February 06, 2013, 09:59:33 pm
Catch, Barr, and Release  ;)



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Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: M Bennet on February 06, 2013, 10:45:02 pm
we catch an ty to sale or kill them. ranchers dont want us releasing


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: Shotgun wg on February 06, 2013, 11:41:38 pm
Kill em all. Only time I don't is when hunting on others stuff that don't then I pray my dog kills them before we get there. U will never kill them out not here. U kill a ton next week a new group takes its place. If u have food water and cover u got hogs. If by some chance u don't give it time.


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: bolo on February 07, 2013, 07:41:34 am
If you like to hog hunt &  dont have too many hogs, you better leave the sows  & cut the boars.Rough dogs take a big toll on the population also.


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: Irondog87 on February 07, 2013, 07:50:54 am
Land owners usually make that choice for us. But they never say release it some where else lol. Small boars we try to release but not if it chewed up bad. But if a hog cuts one of our dogs bad to where the dog can't hunt for a few weeks, his a$$ is grass. We will pen him and train dogs with him and if he lives thru that I will cut em and let em go behind my house. Had one caught and was tying it up one time and my cup was jus walking by and the hog latched on to her leg. I wasn't thinking and slapped its head to get him off and it got ahold of two of my fingers. Needless to say when I got my fingers out he jus bought a free ticket to heaven with my 14" homemade sticker!  Eye for an eye!! >:D


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: yelladog0300 on February 07, 2013, 08:27:19 am
Catch, Barr, and Release  ;)


;D


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: Jmesonp1 on February 07, 2013, 06:43:01 pm
we dont have a bunch of hogs but if i let one go and the word got out i would never get another peice of property to hunt.


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: Hamilton_hogger on February 07, 2013, 09:32:41 pm
Kill


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: Reuben on February 08, 2013, 07:06:42 am
in our part of Texas it is kill because we have way too many...and in some places it is so thick it is hard to catch them...some farmers have quit farming certain areas because of the crop damage...


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: reatj81 on February 08, 2013, 09:03:20 am
I was brought up to turn sows loose, Barr the boars, & only kill what you will eat.   Unfortunately that won't work anymore in my area.  We have such an overpopulation of hogs that it makes it harder to hunt.  If a hog breaks and runs a mile any direction chances are good the will run threw another group and break the dogs off.   It used to be only the boars that seemed to do this, now a sow or shoat will.   It has gotten hard to run down a runner, when it may be a different hog every mile, it's like they are relaying the dogs.    I wish we only had 20% of the hogs we have now!   It would also decrease the number of hunters.  Too many poachers ruin it for all.


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: Bowtech99 on February 08, 2013, 03:00:36 pm
200lb+ kill.

199- release.


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: hillcountry on February 09, 2013, 11:12:49 pm
Every single one dies.


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: dogo24 on February 09, 2013, 11:37:46 pm
rice farmers worst nightmare !  kill or sale


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: crackerc on February 10, 2013, 09:05:21 am
Mainly conservationist.  I prefer to cut the boars and turn them loose and never kill a sow. I cut boars for years on the ranch I lived on and we had some great Barr hogs. Never killed a sow the whole time I was on the ranch (7 years) as if you wanted a hog, you could go catch a Barr.

With some of the public land hunts they require you to kill the hogs. If they catch you turning one loose, you won't get a permit to hunt that place again (or any other water management land).  So I mainly kill the hogs on those hunts. But every now and then, when you are way off a road, one may accidently slip loose......

I keep hearing about the "overpopulation" of hogs. Places I hunt there are fewer and fewer hogs every year. Too many people killing everything they can, whether its with dogs, traps or shooting. I wish I could find a place to hunt here in Fla that actually had a good hog population.  The guy I used to hunt with the most, has a couple leases.  He and I used to hunt together a lot. He rarely killed a hog and got in trouble at his old lease because he got mad at the deer hunters for killing all the hogs. But he has bought into the "non native invasive species " crap. Now he traps, snares and shoots hogs 365 days a year. Now these are woods leases no crops at all. It just makes me mad as I have young dogs to train and he kills everything he can, then wants me to bring my young dogs out and try to catch the big nasty boar hogs he can't catch. I am the one that pays the vet bills and gets wrecked dogs as thats all that is left on the place.  Bad boar hogs and young inexperienced dogs are not a good combination......

I also have another gripe along the same lines. I trap hogs in places I can't run dogs and try and find homes for them...alive. I buy the corn...spend my time and money checking traps, wrestling live hogs out of traps, putting them in my dog box (by myself most of the time) and give them to guys that have hunting leases and want the hogs.

One year I gave a guy over 70 LIVE hogs to turn loose at his club. We hunted together and I took him to my places and on several public land hunts. He even got some pups from me. But he NEVER, not one time EVER invited me to hunt HIS club....the one that he turned all the hogs loose on. Even though we hunted together for 3-4 years. So needless to say that got old k....

Then I have another guy that I have hunted with. Nice guy, I like him as we get along, rag on each other's dogs etc. But again, I have known this guy for several years, have given him over 30 live hogs for his lease and in the 2-3 years I have hunted with him I have been invited to hunt his lease ONE time and that was dead of summer and the whole hunt might have lasted an hour. Even though I have taken him to my club, put him up at my house on public land hunts, etc.

What gets old is when these guys text you pics of hogs they caught over the weekend, at their leases, AFTER they went hunting. But you never get an invite BEFORE they go hunting......ever, even though you are the one that helped stock their leases.

So I guess I need new hunting places (with lots of hogs) and a couple new hunting buddies!


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: hogdogger98 on February 10, 2013, 09:58:22 am
It's hard to find good hunting buddies. So instead of trying to find someone to go with me I just take my 13 year old boy!! Always depend on him to never let me down.


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: Bowtech99 on February 10, 2013, 01:19:52 pm
Dont get started on huntin buddies. HARD to find one. Epecially that hunts like me an my dogs.


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: TexasHogDogs on February 10, 2013, 03:32:17 pm
Am and we are both! What it calls for we do .


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on February 10, 2013, 04:03:15 pm
crackerc......

I dunno what part of FL you reside in but I was born/raised/lived there up till I moved to these parts 4yrs ago. Before I left, there were HOGS GALORE over in Pasco county, specifically the Lutz/New Port Richey area. Lots of open land over there, and I used to see sounders alllll the timejust driving through. Dunno if there's still that many out there or not though.


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: Bo Pugh on February 10, 2013, 04:52:43 pm
i like to hunt hogs so i like to turn everyone i get my hands on back loose. people have got into the knive thing around here and it just seems to me like it takes the sport out of it, i had much rather have caught one and got it tied than walked up there and stuck it with a knife it just seems to me like when you stick it with a knife everything is over with . me and my buddy have a new motto " catch and tie" not stick and die.


Title: Re: Hog Conservationist or Hog Killer?
Post by: cajunl on February 10, 2013, 07:14:01 pm
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So I guess I need new hunting places (with lots of hogs) and a couple new hunting buddies!

Sounds like you do!