EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Bought two 9 month old dogs  from a guy on here a few weeks ago for $1,100 with a trial. Guy said they would range out with lead dogs but didn't leave my feet! Only reason I believed him that they would range out was because of blood line they were supposedly out of.  Now he's not answering calls or texts !

Whos fault is it ? Yours or his. I'm not trying to be a smart a$$, I'm just curious about where you honestly lay the blame. Did you hunt with them before you gave him your money? A trial is only as good as the man giving it. How many times have you taken them hunting before you decided they are no count? They might have actually ranged out with his lead dogs and they might start doing it with yours once they get use to you and your dogs. It's hard to honestly evaluate 9 month old pups, especially if you have only hunted them a few times. I'm not trying to get you stirred up, just giving food for thought and curious about your answers to the questions.

I can't see getting a trial on 9 month old pups???

They're just pups...

Thats allotta $$ for pups

Not unless you (the guy giving the trial) really like them. I moved one of my gyp sisters when she was right at a year old....I knew she was gonna be rougher than what I wanted. She wasn't anything special...but she was one of my favorite dogs, just because of her build and temperament. I had a hard time convincing myself I should move her but finally did. Anyway...I gave the guy an open ended guarantee....but alas...he loves her. He runs 1 strike and 3 RCD. He said she fits perfect.

I hunted them 7 times and they got along with my dogs great , not once did they leave my feet, me and the guy we were over 300 miles apart and he swore by the dogs and said I had his word that if I didn't like them I could return them. I was nervous about them being 9 months old and hunting as good as he said  but I've seen plenty 9 month old dogs that hunt like they have been hunting for years  and knew that it was possible.

Where's he from?

U can't really expect a whole lot out of a pup At 9 mon old. Hell I usually don't take pups to the woods til around that age in first place

9 months old. i could see if they where jagds or some game running catch dog that there life span are breed short.jk.lol  but that sucks bud. u have papers? trace the breeders back to fine his address  or just take pic of the pups an see if any one knows where he  just my 2 cents

Drive to his house

Yea where is he from ? I drove from north central oklahoma to trinity  TX to get a finished cat bitch . Guy would never answer the phone after i picked her up.  she will go to a bay if you walk her within 100 yards. And she ir rough. But by no means a finished dog hell she dont even hunt . So i know how you feel . A big waist of gas plus a sorry dog . Gave her away.

You spent 1100$ on two pups from someone you didn't know that lives 300 miles away and didn't see them work before you bought them. Have you not seen the multitude of guys posting they have been burned by people over and over that shows up on here? Im sorry that it happened to you but honestly you should have been really cautious 9mo old pups are just that pups you can't expect much of a trial or guarantee on them as it is there just pups.

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it sounds like you might be venting right now...there pups, give it some time. if good stock might turn out. if not take 1100.00 out of his arse...ninja like

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Man thats the risk you take buying dogs, but a man should stand behind something he sells. You said that the seller said they would range out with HIS dogs. You should keep in mind that these are pups and are unfamiliar with you or your dogs. Did you hunt them with your dogs or by themselves?

Yeah I was venting but a lesson learned. What's done is done and I am just going to be patient and give them some time and continue to hunt them and hole they turn out

I got two pups ill let go for $1000 ;D

I usually give pups away...because I value my word and I don't need any misunderstandings...

Before I pay that kind of money for a pup it better have a homing device to every hog in the county and be able to skin it. Maybe I'm just cheap but I can't see it.

sometimes a 9 month old pup is worth 1000 bucks if you know what your looking at...could be a once in a lifetime dog in the making or maybe a great hog dog in the making...at 2 years of age money won't hardly get that pup...

So you can just look at a 9 month old pup and tell its worth that kind of money  ??? I need some lessons even though i would still never pay that for any kind of pup

Oh and jmo but i have been through this never buy any dogs without hunting with them first - buy em in the woods if you know what i mean. I have called/texted many of these guys sellling these "strike dogs" or so called finished dogs - 95% of the time they fishtail on you when you try to line up a hunt with them. But to the good honest guys and there are a few praise all of you!

the best hog dog I ever owned was doing amazing things that other pups of his age couldn't do and this started at 8 weeks and he was tracking hogs in the woods at 4 months old...I also had a jam up strike dog named smoke  and this pup I am talking about was neck and neck with smoke when that pup was 10 months old and was a hog dog deluxe at a year of age...I have had quite a few good ones that were pretty good before a year old...

all I was saying is to be on the look out for these type of pups...because 2 pups for 1100 dollars of this type are a bargain...

 I have paid more for a single dog that was 8 months old. A dog that is a real dog in the making is worth a lot more then some seem to give it credit for. But, it makes no sense to me to pay that much and not hunt with the dog a few times.

Pup may get killed first time out . No hog dog pup is worth that kinda money . If papered ! Well those papers dont help him any .

coon hunter...you make a good point...but if I liked the bloodline and the pups were hunting fairly well by 9 months then 1100 dollars is not that bad...especially if I were wanting to start breeding my own line of dogs...starting out with well bred pups from a long line of huntings dogs that are linebred/inbred that look right and hunt right will save lots of years of culling because someone else done paid for all that...just a little tweaking here and there to get the dogs how you like...it would  actually save lots of money in the long run...

even if not for breeding but just to hunt them and they turn out above average then it is worth it to me...

but getting back to the topic...I don't have enough details to decide one way or the other...so I gave examples as to what it would take for me to give 1100 dollars for 2 pups...

If you think about it really ain't to bad. You see 6-8 week old pups go anywhere from $25 on up to $600 depending on papers or no papers and the line. If the pups are papered with the right lineage it ain't that bad of a deal for 2 9 month old pups IMO. Its not a price I would be willin to pay but it doesn't seem like a crazy price for TWO pups

  Besides from my lab(never sent the papers in) I have never bought a puppy tht came with papers. I have never had the "want" to breed dogs. And to date I have never owned a dog that was worth breeding beside from my catch dog, that I got spayed because a male got hooked up to her years agos.
  Papers give you the blood line info on certain dogs,true. How easy is it to pass along fake papers? Are papers better then the breeder telling you about the dogs back ground? Papers,to me, are only used to mark up the price of a dog from the sellers point of view.
 How many yellow dogs are posted on the forum with a healthy price tag that have papers following them. Same with cats,hounds etc.


   

.  Man and I will say that dog is making a hand. How old is cowboy now. 

I once looked at 2 dogs that were pretty built right and seemed to smell the ground a lot they sure looked the part so I gave what the guy asked for, the dogs didn't turn out and I never complained about it to anyone but myself. I also learned I couldn't look at a dog and tell it was going to be a good one.

     little over a year I think, Chris.

Buying dogs is a touchy subject.  I dang sure would rather spend 1500 on a young dog that is doing good and getting better then 1500 on a older dog that is as good as it's gonna get.

1500$ -  :o That would kill me im no rich guy and my luck the dog git killed first time out - i will just stick with training my free potlickers! lol - To each his own

You ain't priced hog dogs in awhile in. I dont much buy dogs but I've got friends who've looked up and down and under every rock in every state. I've yet to see or hear about anything real good bought that's supposedly finished.  You wanna buy a hog dog that's getting it done and the guy ain't in no bind, be prepared to finance it  :laugh:

From my experience no one is gonna sell that dog! I know i wouldn't but god forbid for some reason i had to sell mine no it wouldn't be cheap! But no i havent really priced hog dogs i just know you don't have to spend that to have a hog dog! I know i won't anyways

  All dogs can be bought.

   People expect different things from a dog. What you may like might be something other people cull for.A good dog isnt behind every tree. Lets say I have seen 100 dogs hunting. I can think of 10 that were good. Maybe two were worth breeding my eyes. Pretty slim odds. So is spending 1k on a young dog worth it to some? I think so.

Thats were ur wrong buddy - all dogs cannot be bought!

There is always a magic number. It may take a taller stack of bills for some but they all have a price.

That price may be way higher than what a sane man my pay but a nut job with a briefcase full of $100 bills stacking them high enough will buy any dog.

If someone offers to buy a dog that I'm not sure will work for me ill take it otherwise ill offer the dog to ppl I know for free if they can use it. However there are two dogs in my pens that cannot be bought. Well I take that back I might would take a million for the pair. If it ever got so bad I couldn't keep them the brindle will go back to my good friend that gave him to me as a reject cow dog and the red gyp would go to another good friend who values her just as much and will use her in the same fashion as I do.

I will say that there are dog that are not for sale but stupid money will buy a lot of those dogs!!!

I wouldnt take ANY price for some of my dogs...i mean that too.

Their still pups and to me I dont think they've had enough time to adjust. I had a 4 year old bear dog on trial that I hunted 8-10 times before he showed me a bear up a tree. But was nailing them after that. I was getting pretty upset nut that guy kept telling me how good he was.
    And 550 ain't a bad price for two 9 month old pups. I drove all the way to northern  va and payed 600 for an 8 month old.
   They may work and they may not, give them time, hunt them hard.