EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Maybe I'm just dumb but that's an astronomical number of hogs to say were caught or bayed with a single dog. I don't know maybe I just don't realize how good everyones dogs are but it just seems to me if we go out and catch a few a time or two a week well that's a good week. Point being me nor my die hard friends can hunt every week for example deer season and if we could we wouldn't have time to get on here and tell it. Now I'm sure there are a few legendary dogs that have but everybody cant have one. Opinions on this

It's possible. 1 or 2 hogs a weeks for a few years and you're at 500. If you have private land deer season don't matter.

Haven't quite figured out how to train my dogs to read and understand property lines yet...anyone have any good tips...

Nope. My dogs don't know property lines of that's what your were implying. But we are good friends with our surrounding neighbors and they don't mind. Guess we're just lucky.

It's a good number of hogs for sure, but not out of the realm of possibilities.

There's several dogs I know of who could hold that distinction if their owners really felt like adding it all up and telling everybody about it. When the type of hog dogs your used to only catch a handful of hogs per month or the dogs your used to are usually dead by two and half or three years old, then sure, it'd be hard to believe, but, one of the most successful hog dogs I've been around is over 10 years old and still will put it on most anybodies dogs.

Go and search for the posts of "VAN DORN" and read his thread "busy march" if memory serves me correctly he cuaght like 55 or so hogs in march alone. That's a fine month of hunting there bud, and he wasn't even doing "hog removal" they were just farting around having fun and doing a few tournaments!!!
You take dogs like he and his buddies have and start putting pen to paper and it'll depress you how many hogs them dogs are looking at!  :D

Heck even my lil ol potlickers flat cleaned up along with Critter catcher an his crew a year and half ago when he had "the hog zoo" lol
None of us claim to have super dogs at all, but I know for certain that we dogged several hundred out of that place in no time flat, and we had plenty if time to brag about it on the Internet too!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

A couple hundred hogs a year are more and you are right in the ball park.  Totally possible and has been done by more than you might think.  Thats not unreal at all .

I've kept log on every hog I've caught for the last 6 yrs  its now around 500   All with the same dogs and the same catch dogs. And I'm a okie. If I lived in Texas it would be way over that and I'm sure there is some here , I really don't think that's a crazy    Number , I guess it depends on how many good spots you get

My ole Blu gyp is ten years old still going strong and I can tell you its way over the 500 mark dont know how much exactly but its way up there .  Like they say you would be surprised at how man can do it .  Back four five years ago Tom and I were hunting five six days a week all year long just about .

It is possible and I sure wish I had the dog to do it.  It also takes a lot good spots.   Here in north la where I hunt if you hit a spot two three times in week or two hogs will relocate for a while.  We try and not just slap run em out so we hunt around on a lot different spots. 

I had a male dog that easily had 1,000+ hogs under his belt when I sold him. I have a gyp now that probably has 2,000+ hogs under her belt. That is in a life time of course. Its really not that hard. When we hunted steady we killed 300+ hogs per year. The gyp is around 10yrs old now.

Old dogs with those kinds of numbers will spoil you. When they take a trail there are no ifs, ands, or buts... :)

I guess if you have the time and places to hunt

500 is not much for a dog to have bayed.  Now caught is a tiny bit different story because they are at much more risk when catching, but many dogs have caught 500+ hogs in their career.  I doubt it is all that uncommon.  I bay and shoot so my dogs have less risk and liver longer than most.  I've got a 10 year old gyp..... lets say she has been at it for 9 of those ten years.  Most years we bay and shoot 150-200 hogs.  She is on almost all of those hunts lets say she is on at least 100 hogs a year (conservative estimate) that's 900 hogs that I have killed over her during her career.  But where do you account for the hogs she bays as groups.  5-10 hogs at a time, but I only shoot one or two.  Or the ones she bays that I don't kill because they spook, or I cant get to in time, the ones she runs that never bay.  The shoats she catches and kills on her own.  I'd say she has been on 1000's of hogs in her lifetime being hunted one a week.  Her dad was hunted steady until he was 13.  

Speaking of numbers.  When it comes to polishing a young dog I think the # of hogs you put them on as a 1.5- two year old is directly proportional to how well they live up to their full potential.  A goal of mine is to get a young dog on at least 200 successful bays during their first spring and fall.  Just say they were born in December you start them in the fall before deer season they will be ready to go hard in January when deer season closes.  Then you hunt their ass of that whole year and try to get them on at least 200 solid bays.  Don't we all wish we had that much time.

Waylon

I'm talking about one single dog not hunting 3 or 4 at a time and catching that many. I know what you guys are saying the last 4 or 5 times I've ran my dogs in the last 2 weeks I've caught atleast 5 each time within 3 hrs but I'm sharp enough to know the same dog didn't find every pig. I've caught over 50 this year just hunting once a week and didn't even hunt in January.  It's difficult for me to believe that one dog is such a wrecking crew when I've hunted with so many different guys that hunt 2 to 4 dogs at a time.

That is a very possible number. I have a 10 year old dog and I know he has bayed well over that amount. He ain't soppose to catch any of them. I sen him bay about 40 in one group.

I have a 10 yr. old black jyp that has been finding hogs for me since she was 9 months old.There is no telling how many she has found & bayed in her life.Way over 1000, maybe over 2000. Aint never tried to keep score.

Very true. Good post. It was easy to make dogs when we hunted that much.

I really meant 1 dog baying a pig and holding it til you catch it. Many times I've had a dog bay up a large group of pigs but only to actually catch one pig out of that bay. Now they may scatter and you go catch a couple more of them but I'm sorry I just feel like the numbers a little far fetched the way it gets thrown around. Thanks for your opinions

http://s1150.photobucket.com/user/kerreydonwelch/media/DSCF4788.jpg.html?sort=3&o=268                                                                 catch is a catxpit cross he cought his first at 6 months hes 11 years old now,honestly will say hes helpd with and cought over 1000 hogs hes retired as of last week getting to slow seems to get the worst of it when we get a big one. he got it pretty bad got cut between his legs his 1 bb he has left was hanging out of his sack. hes gonna take it easy and be my haul dog and have a few pups. if his testical is saved. 

I got two that are way over that number, but they are old as dirt, and I know of several dogs that strike and bay that in a year. It all depends on the hog population you hunt, but it really doesn't take that long to get to that number if you have a good places, a solid dog, and can catch 6-7 hogs a weekend. Look at Van Dorn and TShelly, BARRMAKER, etc. their teams brought in over 100 hogs each in a month of hunting tournaments more or less. Just imagine the work they put into those dogs while having a good time and getting them trained. 500 is an easy number for a 2-3 yr old dog in their country to have under their collar.

back about 8-9years ago when I really got into running dogs I had 1 hunting buddy and we had 3 SOLID large tracts of land to hunt, we hunted 3 ymb'cs 1 ybmc/plott and 1 walker and I can guarantee that those 5 dogs saw at least 350 in 1 year alone, one place we hunted in Labelle Texas 3-5 days a week I can honestly say that we may have gone  a dozen times in a year and not caught multiple hogs. It was a honey hole like I have never seen since. 26,000 acres of hay, rice and marsh plum full of hogs, we had it made back then, no kids no ol ladys no real responsibilities other than a little bs 40hr a week job, pretty much we worked solely to pay for our hog hunting, those were great times and some of the best memories i've ever made in the woods. Me and david are still close friends to this day and it seems like everytime we get together with our families the pictures start coming out and we end up talkin about all the good times. To be honest we didn't have the best dogs around by any means BUT we hunted them 5 + days a week EVERY week for a LONG time.....sure dogs came and went but the core 5 were on every hunt unless they were injured....... wish I could still hunt like that but life has gotten in the way and family comes first!

I honestly would be willing to say that 500 is very realistic to some of the dogs owned by guys on this site and some not on this site. I know my last post didn't exactly answer your question about 1 dog striking and holding 500 hogs but if a buddy and myself could catch the numbers like we produced with a few decent dogs then there ain't a doubt in my mind that there are dogs out there that have struck over 500 head.

I have a junky little yella dog that is alittle over 3 that is probably halfway to the 500 mark BY HERSELF... She has been pretty much my only strike dog for the last two years... Other than hogs caught with my buddies dogs and one of my other chit eaters getting lucky...  If my no account dog can catch that many, guys with sure enough good dogs and good spots to hunt shouldn't have any problem...

Now if you want to count hogs she found but we didn't catch, I'm sure it's over 500 but she sucks...  ^-^

Cool. Justin and Wilbanks you guys answered it in a way that I can see it happening. I guess my whole basis of the question was dang there are a lot of people throwing out big numbers and I just can't fathom there being a great dog like that in every hunters kennel! I've been going hard for a year and a half by myself and I sure don't have one that good. Don't think I'm green to this though I've been on my own for a year and a half but before that I spent time hunting with guys that had been at it for 10 plus years. Thanks guys. You guys sound like someone I'd like to invite hunting sometime where are y'all from?

born and raised in beaumont texas (south east)

I believe ole trent is from yankeeville, anything north of lake sam rayburn is yankee land and im pretty sure he is north rayburn  ;D ;D ;D

Lol you wouldn't know a girl by the name of Alisha Carothers would you?

I think i BUMPED into her on a dirt road one night!  j/k but that damn sounds really familiar..  Damn, Justin i didn't know i was known as a yankee too! 

I got a retired old gyp cought atleast 1000 hogs behind this gyp

Shut up Justin.... Your practically Messican...  ;D

But yeah, I'm far north east Texas

 :D

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catch is  cat pit cross he cought his first hog at 6months old hes 11years now hes cought and help catch and struck well over 1000 hogs hes retired now just a haul dog and international playboy lol

I have a pit gyp that is 7 started using her as soon as she turner 1yr old.  Let's just say I only use her 20 weeks a year. And say I only hunt her twice a week, and say only use her to catch 2 hogs per hunt.  That's 480 hogs shes caught. That doesn't count the hunts where we catch 6-12 with her as only catch dog, or when I hunted 3-4 times a week, or way more than 20 weeks per yr.   majority of those hunts she is the only catch dog.  So I would say her numbers are way higher than this.  At this point she is showing no signs of slowing down.  I may get 2-3 more years out of her.  All those catches and only been cut 4 times, 3 of those were the first year, and one was last year.  Ear every catch & 80%--90% of those are right ear! 
I have two bay dogs that will be 3 end of May.  In June of the year they turned 1yr I lost the only old dog I had.  So they had to step up and be the dogs.  That winter in January & February I kept track of caught hogs, it was 141, or 144 I don't remember, I would have to find the calendar & look to be sure.  So it would be safe to say they have been on 400 to 500 already.   So when we do the math the numbers are higher than we realize.

touche trent! .............I do come from a family of bricklayers lol  ;D

not sure if this is directed at me or not but the name Carothers seems really familiar............

I dont know anyone that hunts just one dog...but it is very practical for countless individuals to have 1, 2,4 dogs on well over 500 hogs in a lifetime. I can think of 8-10 people that catch 150-200 a year and have the same dog(s) on every hunt.


Not just with hog hunting but many different things...I have thought if I havent done it or seen it...it doesnt happen..but experience and time will change your mind.

Nevermind I went back and did some counting and I now have record of 375 hogs bayed with my 8 month old Dogo in the last year and a half!

At first I thought you were lieing....but then you said bayed with dogo and I knew you were telling the truth.

Me and the Cambells have documented films of it!

Just five hogs a week gets you over half way there in one year alone.

 :D  :D

 You lost me at year and half and eight month dogo.

Hogs let out of a trailer don't count ,Campbell's.

thts cuz his dogo is so good that it was talkin em into giving up from the womb prior to its birth! DUH!  ;D

Thats right but I had to get rid of him here while back cause he was a Democrat!!

..........there's always something!! >:D

Two years ago me and they guys i hunt with caught over 100 (can't remember the exact count) from december til around turkey season in april.  This was hunting mainly on Saturdays.  We did have sevearl days where we caught 5 or more but 500 can easily be caught if you have the places to hunt and good enough luck to not have your dogs cut down.

heck i know guys gettin 40-60 hogs month. im not dang it lol but there are alot of high acrage lands that adjoin state that are just loaded with hogs espicially here in fl. i know folks catchin 1-6 hogs a day but there lucky huge property owners or grandfatherwd in ya know some folks just got the luck of the draw

Ok I'm sure it's happened and will happen more but like I said there's no way 90% of the people on here have one. I mean for gods sake man what did y'all vote for Obama or what how has time to hunt that much  I know I sure don't hog hunting don't pay near as good as my job!

hell i work 70 hours a week and still hunt at least 3 or try to now

You'll be working 80 when Obama gets all his clownin done

dont bother me 4k a week is worth it

Ya sounds good to me too. It took me a month to catch that many $ worth of pigs in February.

This number is very doable specialy over a period of a few yrs. and if you hunt in a good area even better but I think most guys just don't hunt that much

Do-able ? Heck yeah! Have i done it? heck no! Lol..ill be flat out honest. Im jealous of some folks and the anount of hogs they've been on. I aint caught 500 hogs the whole time ive been hunting. Lol..my spots are crap. The spots i do have that have a bad pig problem are always very small. So i call those my trap only properties. I have gotten lucky a few times though and snagged a few with my dogs and my dogs only. But heck i may never catcg 500 pigs. Lol..

Man 500 plus try 1000 plus


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Try infinity hogs that my number lol

Tooooooo infinity!!!       What comes next?

Bacon sandwiches for every one

and beyond!! Haha... but a bacon sandwich will work to. Any sliced tomatoes?

Im no math wiz, but your numbers of an 8 month old dog baying "X" amount of hogs in 1.5 yrs is bull crap. Your year count is over 2x the age of your dog.

Heck ya my wife has picked thousands son and she will slice them how ever ya like

all this math is giving me a head ache. Let go see judge and eat blt's

Sounds like fuzzy math but I have bayed a bunch of blts and I always get them caught

Never missed a one ? Ole catch dog must have a hell of a bite ! :laugh:

I have a friend that caught over 250 hogs with one dog in a year...he was a ranch hand at the time on a big ranch...sometimes it wss caught sometimes it was shot depending on the size...

Haters.....makes me smile

I have never missed one yet......ask around

If you hunt a lot and have decent spots and good dogs that's not a far fetched number, depending on your standard of dogs it's easily attainable in a few years if not less, an example years ago my father in law had a spot they hunted several nights a week and caught over 300 head in a summer, but then again that was an awesome spot and they had the dogs to do it.

First thing this morning one hung around to long and he got caught (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/20/241df6e49617aa78aa4354c2a4292fba.jpg)

Lil porkers like that still count towards that unrealistic number of 500  :D

Fried me some up this mornin too, just doesnt look as good as that catch.

Boo-yah baby !! GOOD GOD That mans even got the cheddar cheese on that sucker !!   WITH PICTURES TO BACK IT UP !

Yes sir we cull hard around here and our standards are high. When we catch one we want to catch a good one

All joking aside any thing is possible if your check book is big enough or you have to do it this is a fact. My daddy told me many yrs ago the winners don't cash checks they write them

Heck ! Who counts any way? To busy killing.

Uncle pete ^^^^ has prolly killed more hawgs than some have ever seen. :)

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I learnt from the best (uncle jp) you dont break 500 around here you suckin hind teat!

Me and a buddy started counting in January one year and sometime in April we lost count at around 60 head.   We hunted at that pace all year, every year for well over 10 years and although I don't remember any one dog's numbers I would say that number would very attainable.    Another thing, I don't count any hog until its legs are tied or the hunter grabs his legs and sticks him.   A guy could pill up and bunch of numbers with a gun, good marksmanship, and poor dogs.  IMO 

I'm like everyone else life gets in the way these days.

But if your a single bloke hunting regularly then 500 is certainly possible. More often than not either something happens or the dog gets plain "wore out" as you guys say. I know of one no BS old dog that was worked on his own 3-4 nights a week (a running catch dog, my mate was a professional kangaroo shooter) for 4-5 years and then less regularly after that. I wouldn't like to guess how many pigs old Boss caught over the years.  Certainly many hundred. I remember he caught 22 boars in two night running at wheat harvest time one year, he was the only dog on the truck.

My two older dogs would've seen several hundred each, in one 5 days stretch we got over 100...but have they caught 500 each? No probably not.