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My oldest daughter caught a scramble calf at Houston this year, and is looking for a good quality Grey Brahman show heifer.  Must be registered and DOB of 1/1/2012 - 3/31/2013.

I'd prefer to find a heifer that has already been shown, and is placing well.

Where should I be looking?  Are there some good websites to find show cattle, or does anyone have any recommendations on a breeder?

V8 Ranch

Thanks Randy,

I've already been in contact with V8. Something I should have mentioned in my first post,  I'm trying to keep from buying from an outfit that I will be competing against, particularly at Houston.  I don't believe they will sell their best to a first time customer, especially with them having some youth already showing for the ranch.

Ideally, I'd love to find a top quality heifer that was shown this year by someone that is now heading off to school and won't be showing in college.   Probably a needle in a haystack....

If I may ask why a Brahman?  ???

I'd check out the breed website you should be able to find a list off breeders there
if not there look in the back of an issue of the gulf cost cattleman or the cattleman mags and try those ranches that would give you a good start

The Showbox magazine or their website should have upcoming sales and private treaty.

X2 on the why Brahman? I showed simbrah but if I had it to do over I'd show English.

Stay away from the hair!!! Mama always said its the devil >:D

That's a good reason to go brahmer lol a good Brahman cost so stinkin much lol

Why a Brahman?

In my pasture, with the exception of a few novelty cows ( Watusi ), I have grey Brahman, and F1 Brafords.  The heifer that she shows will end up in our pasture, and the HLSR does not have a class for F1 Braford in 2014, only leaving the Brahman as an option.

I have spoken at length with Chris, the president of ABBA, and he has given me a few leads to check out.  I just figured I would post up here and see what the ETHD knowledge base might have to offer in addition to my previous research.


BTW, thanks for the PM's that I have received, I will follow up with the contacts that have been provided thus far.

I have a good buddy that lives in Collinsville Texas that might have what your looking for. He has some bulls from
V8 and hudgens ranch. I think he has 4 heifers that are show quality. They get allot of there semen from Brasil. You might giver him a call and see if he can help you. 903 651 1481
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Thanks  KD#2

We don't have any Brahma but we've got some amazing red angus, gelbvieh, and some crosses. We love helping out kids that are showing.  We've got some kids here locally that got calves from us and they did awesome at all the shows they entered. I'd be happy to show you some anytime you wanted.

You might try the bulls eye ranch or tic tac toe ranch but think the v8 has got some nice spring born calves

I'd like to see some pictures of your Brafords Chris if you had a few pictures you'd be willing to post. 

This is David Murrel in Winnies number they had some real nice ones and don't have any kids or grand kids showing right now as far as I know.

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Easttex is right the Murrel's did have some good ones I'd give him a call

  Thanks Colby,

     Bulls Eye, Tic Tac Toe, and Reese Ranch are on my list of places to contact.

Easttex91 and Countryman,

    Thank you, I will contact David Murrel....   Not having kids and grandkids currently showing is a HUGE plus to me...

BA-IV,

     I'll be out at the pasture mowing this evening, and I'll see if I can get some recent pics.   I made a decision to sell all but two of my cows in early 2012, and start over.  Right now I the oldest thing on my place is 3y/o, with most of them being heifers.  I'll never be a big time operator, and don't really have the desire to have a large herd.  If I can keep my numbers to less than 50 head, and continue to enjoy the "hobby", and raise cattle that I enjoy looking at, it will suit me just fine.

The Watusi - she is 6 months bred to a Watusi bull
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a few of the braford heifers I picked up late last year.   The little bull is off the Clark Angus ranch, and has been used on corriente heifers the last few years. I figured he'd work well as a heifer bull, then I'll try to find something I like better for next year.
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one of the brahman heifers. She is sired by JDH Eliseo Manso (581/7), out of Miss Rocky Creek 14
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a few of the braford heifers I picked up last month - the pics aren't very clear, it was near dark with a cell phone camera
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why not a braford? Check With Rock rest Ranch in Malakoff, Tx. They are Great People, and not to mention have a few good brafords to choose from!

I think what you are calling a F1 braford is just a F1 tigerstripe. Brafords are a breed unto themselves much like brangus. Brafords are not half brahman and half hereford. They even have a registry for them.

Help me out here....   It won't be the first time I have been wrong about something...

You are correct, mine are  1/2 brahman 1/2 hereford aka F1 Braford aka F1 Tigerstripe

Braford = a breed unto itself, I understand this to be  ~ 3/8 brahman 5/8 hereford

However,   To my knowledge, the term F1 Braford and F1 tigerstripe have always been interchangeable, and used to reference a 1st generation cross of a brahman/hereford.  I also use the term F1 Brangus to reference a brahman/angus cross.

Here's a link that somewhat supports the use of the "F1 Braford" as an accepted term.
http://www.cattlerange.com/B-Tigerstripe.html

Spencer,

    I'm in the process of getting the few Brahman that I have into the ABBA Golden Certified F1 / Certified F1 program. I figured that if I am going to have to spend the coin on a show heifer, that she might as well be able to contribute to my "program".   

I hear ya. Finding a good brahman wont be too hard, but finding a darn good one that don't cost an arm and leg will be hard. The good ones are expensive.

I gotcha... I guess the lingo just varies by location. Nice looking cattle by the way.

If you change your mind or anyone else lookin for show calves that ain't slick haired and big eared  ;D we raise calves and show our own. Mostly Simmental and club calf crosses but we have got some good calves on the ground right now. And we're not a "big" show breeder so it won't cost an arm And a leg. But we've been doin pretty good here lately

I tell you what, your a smart man, the F1 are hard to beat when it comes to raising a herd of good cattle. Its just hard for me to like a Brahman. My wife swears up and down when we have kids that they will show a brahman. I told my wife that there is only two types of brahmans, they are either dog gentle or Nuckin Fut's :o! Growing up i showed simmental and angus.

I read this quote the other day, and there sure seems to be some truth to it... the context was about a guy asking about raising F1, and wondering if there is a market for raising some if the bulls.

""Whoa I love a Brimmer cow but I quit the tigers years ago, those boys look like they would fight a chain saw.
If you have never owned or worked Tigers you need a mentor, you lead Tigers not force them and you had better have some stud horse stout working pens. There is not a finer momma cow in the world, I guess I never thought about the bull angle, be easier to handle one nut case, but that is a whole lot of bad ass if his fuse gets lit.""

That said, I am always more alert when around eared cattle, but my worst experiences have been with some charlois that I helped work a couple years ago.

Out of all the animals I showed there was only one I couldn't break it was an F-1 heifer and she was frikin NUTS. After a month of "working" with her I still couldn't go in the pen with her and couldn't let her out of the tall metal cattle panels cause the b**** would go through a barb wire fence like it wasn't there.

Thanks to this post and the resulting PM's, we were able to locate a heifer for my daughter at Bar W Ranch in Devine, TX

Here's a pic of her getting settled in at our place.
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She is a good looking heifer, I hope yall place well with her.

She sure does have some legs on her... good luck and hope ya'll bring home the blue ribbon

She's pretty is she halter broke?

She is not halter broke... However, she has been pretty calm through the entire process so far.  We have her in a 40x80 pen next to the barn with a couple of other gentle heifers, and just going to take things slow and easy at first. She is inquisitive enough that she will walk up and sniff a treat from your hand, but will not eat one. If it turns out that halter breaking her is more than we can handle, we will send her to a fitter down in Wharton.

She looks good Chris.  Hope your daughter enjoys and learns a lot with her project.  Good luck!

Just a thought if u have a donkey they're the easiest way to break a stubborn one. 3 or 4 days on the donkey and she's goin wherever that lead rope goes

Thought I would post a little update on the heifer.

As for temperament, she has her moments, but all in all we have been very please with her progress.  She is cautious of strangers, but has really taken to my daughter.

She has her first prospect show in two weeks.  Still working on getting some more cover on her. Right now she weighs 894#, it'll be interesting to see what she weighs by the time HLSR rolls around.

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What ya'll feeding?

Looking good. I remember those days, dang brahmers would embarrass me at show time. One second they are calm cool and collected, the next second they are dragging your butt through the fair grounds. Here is a pic of my great grandfather and his sons with one of their show bulls back in the 60s. They use to make them a little different back then.

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Hey she looks great my daughters show them and love them I hope to see you at a show I'm always looking for someone to talk to . Are y'all going to H.O.T in Waco

Dang...don't think I ever seen one with that much rump and cover.  Cool pic!  Who's the man on the right if you don't mind me askin

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Fine lookin heifer Circle C.  How old is she?  Looks like she's gonna be a biggun if she's still got some growing to do.

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The man on the far right is my great grandfather Henry O Partin and the rest are his 4 sons Slim, Geech, Doc and Earl. Geech is my grandfather. Your right they made those cattle a lot thicker back in the day. Today's Brahmans have gotten too tall with less muscle. That bull was named Emperor and they won lots of titles all over the country with him.

Thanks,

She is a little over a year old.