EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

  The two that top my list are hunters that you take to your spots & they go back bringing other hunters & the ones that think they have to take every hog out. Granted, I know there are spots where the landowner wants them gone or dead with no exceptions. I am not talking about those spots but places where everybody hunts. We probably release 85% of the hogs we catch on the spot unless somebody wants to get one mounted or stick one in the freezer, but some people just cannot stand the thought of letting one go. I guess I dont get it.

Some people have super rough dogs that by the time they get their hands on the hog it would be more humane to kill it.

Then other folks are accustomed to only catching one hog and calling it a hunt.

If you are a little bit scared of turning one loose and having it come get ya. Leave it tied for thirty minutes or so to Make it's legs sore. Most of them that I turn loose stay layed down as we walk of, but sometimes I like to give em a good kick to the rear when someone new is on the trip.  :laugh:

Killing every hog. Not barring boars they release. Running to many dogs on the ground at one time. I am guilty of these things at one point but not anymore. Another is people that will not control their dogs

People who complain about the way other hog hunters hunt ;)

Justin, lol  ;D

I hate when ppl back door me or get a spot 60 acres next door and turn loose at the fence to hunt my place. And then then theres the s.o.b that go around saying dont take monty he will go back and hunt yur spots. This number 2s funny cause were I live I have more land than most of the hunters around me.I get 6 to 10 phone calls a wkend ppl wanting me to take them hunting cause there dogs need to see a hog.and most of the time I take em. Ita also funny all the young guys iv helped get started and now I dont even hear from them or get invited to go hunt with them.its funnny how this old world works anymore.but I st

All the drama its worse than high school

You boys need to come to my part of the country for a couple of years......you would go back to TX with a new appreciation of what you have out there. I'd give no telling what to be able to drive an hour and have hogs to hunt anytime I wished....that would be Heaven for me. You have it better than you realize if you live where you can run hogs without having to dive 3 or 4 hours to do so.......so quit your griping about all this and go hunt while you can!!!! ;D ;D Seriously though, you folks do have it much better than we do here in north AL......remember that next time you feel like griping.
 I don't understand why some of you hunt with these 'undesirables' though.....surely you had to know ahead of time that they were less than trustworthy....sorry but I just don't understand that. Maybe I'm missing something here, but we really don't have that problem....one reason is that we require anyone to go hunting with the group in TN in order to be able to go to south GA later in the year, which is the real sweet deal as opposed to hunting in TN which is tough as can be.....this weeds out the fly-by-nights in a hurry. Plus,.....if they act a fool or seem like a rogue or a law breaker....they just don't get invited in the first place.....works good so far.

Hunters who don't feed their dogs and  don't clean their pens.

Fire medic....there's a few guys that will help young guys out. Take them out and help them get their pups started. I've done it myself...but...my main place is public access so it doesn't really matter.

When I got back into dogging I had a pup that I needed to start and it was during deer season. Monty welcomed me out....we hunted quite a few times through the fall. I also hunt with Blake Fanning....he's got quite a few spots and welcomed me to come hunt with him after we met out in the woods. Chase Mallard picked up my bulldog and a pup that were lost, called me to pick them up. Weve hunted on a couple of his spots and will again. Then theres Brett Bonner and Richard Miller, Drew Whistler and Jordan Young. The list goes on. I don't know if its just my trustworthy face  ;D or just an abundance of generosity but there are some good people around. If I was that kind of guy I would have all kinds of places to road, rig, hood and walk hunt. As it is...if I don't want to hunt by myself on my public access place and everyone is already booked or tied up I just sit home. My girl don't mind that a bit  ;D

Unfortunately....not everyone is......?ethical?

It does kinda suck when you've done the work to find spots to hunt and someone comes in behind your back. Easy way to lose spots that way....one hunter is every hunter as far as some landowners are concerned.

Why are so many in a hurry to have top dogs regardless the price. Slow down get a couple dogs u can afford work them all u can and learn all u can. Pay attention to ur dogs and their body language more than ur garmin.

I don't get people worried about what other people do. Do you think we will run out of pigs? I hate fence jumpers and fence cutters. Why because they mess it up for everyone. I don't care what you do with a hog you catch.

The one thing I hate is some just wont do anything for someone unless he benefits from it or acts like he is your buddy as long as it is for him!! I wish I could get more hunting spots but they just don't come that easy I try to pay but them deer hunters just don't want you running dog during off season but I will keep trying!!

Like Monty said the drama.. I've distanced myself from all the "professional" hog Doggers... I try to keep a good reputation for myself I'm not lucky to have allot of land to hunt when I do hunt is cause I get invited my others so I help out with anything I can...

Bringing a gyp that's coming in heat, in heat, or just got out of heat! Let ur buddy's know before hand so u can bring all females or jut leave her butt at home till she is completely out. I'm guilty of this mostly cuz the gyp wasn't showing (bleeding or swollen at all) ended up catching three that evening, after the hogs were loaded up, my lead gyp and my buddy's lead male locked up!

bringing to many dogs on a hunt are having to many on the ground at one time

   my biggest gripe I have  , is the reputation and perception we have received from the public due to the [ few ] unethical and rouge element in this sport . you know the ones that drive the roads and dump dogs on anybody's property at night where they see a pig cross and the ones running the deer leases at night when they know they aren't allowed in there  .

Hunters getting permission to hunt a 50ac track knowing they are going to get off and hunting were they don't have permission.  Hunting land that you know another guy hunts regular.

i agree with almost all of this. Another one is people bringing pups or crap dogs when they are invited to someone elses place without asking. I know these dogs need time in the woods but theres a time and a place. Can't stand having em stand at your feet or just walking around with their noses up every dogs a$$.

People that complain about everything

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Genetics are the foundation for
(everything ). Without it you have nothing to start with.

People who go on and on about how great there dogs are! Just a cpl days ago had a fella say his dogs could hang with any dogs in texas... I think enough of my dogs because I keep feeding them. But when someone asks me about my dogs I tell them there potlickers or bisquit eaters. I was told I was butt hurt because I wanted to see the dogs hunt. Even said I would leave my dogs at home. If you tell me how good they are and there the best dogs around I'm gonna wanna see them hunt. I can't help myself. Then again the same guy went and got a 6 month old cat gyp for free and then had her for sale asking 100 bucks for her. So I guess what I'm really trien to say is I just can't stand a mouthy person

We'll for the most part, I could care less what people do with hogs they catch except for a couple of places. I have hunted over 30 years on this  one place & everybody comes & hunts it during turkey season or deer season because you can. This place cant stand that kind of pressure & a few of us have taken means to make sure we have hogs there but when these johnny come latelys take everything out, you are pissing in the wind.
  Another thing in our area, there would not be near the hogs in some places except for some of the old school hoghunters.lol Then here comes the wanna bees & they think it is their duty to take everything out without thinking of the hard work it took to get hogs there in the first place.
  Dont get me wrong, I have helped countless youngsters get started, taking them with me, giving them pups. picking them up, yada, yada & so on. There are a lot of good, respectful young kids out there who truely love the sport & appreciate all that you have done for them. Then there are a select few who could care less about anything but themselves & these are the ones that give the rest of us a bad name.

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AROUND HERE, IF A LAND OWNER FINDS OUT YOUR TURNING HOGS LOSE, YOU MAY NOT HAVE A PLACE TO HUNT FOR LONG. I'VE GOT QUITE A FEW PLACES TOO HUNT AND THERE IS NOT ONE LAND OWNER THAT WOULD APPRECIATE ANYONE TURNING HOGS LOSE ON THEIR LAND OR ANY LAND AROUND IT. EVERY HOG WE CATCH IS DRUG OUT FOR THIS REASON. WE MAY LET SOME SHOATS LOSE EVERY NOW AND THEN BUT IT'S KEPT ON THE DL FOR SURE!!

   no need to holler about it  !!  lol 

Lol

I used to think that. Until I got to see a few of them eat crow. Now I look forward to hearing some mouthing. Lol

Can't stand when guys bring there dogs  hunting with me and their dogs never leave the wheeler tell mine bay. They think it's ok. Who wants a blood bath? Not me! And some people think its cool to kill all the pigs? Why kill them if you ain't going to eat them. Barr them out.

  I wish y'all hunted around here, I never get tired of killing the hogs. Need some more in a few spots.
 Different ways of hunting for everyone. As long as it is legal I support it.


   My gripe is people who can not take care of their dogs. Oh they are skinny because we hunt all the time. No , they are wormy and don't get enough to eat.

  good post duck . I hate that too  lol  , big difference in running shape and starved down  .

yes indeed...

all the hunters and fishermen need to be united to fight the anti's...but when dogs run hogs all night in a deer lease and the deer hunters are listening to dogs baying hogs or a hog dog walks up to the deer camp...then we have deer hunters demanding tougher dog laws...

and all the trespassers that cut fences and bust locks and cut gates and leave trash and ruts...and the land owners will demand tougher trespassing laws...

I made a smartass comment earlier in this thread just messing around BUT if I had one honest gripe about other hunters and fishermen for that matter it would be about leaving trash and tearing up things that are not theirs to tear up.......I can't stand driving down a lease road and seeing trash up and down both sides of it........not much different than when my other 1/2 and myself go to some of our favorite crabbing and fishing spots just to find them now off limits due to  inconsiderate jerkoffs leaving trash all over the place and tearing up roads.....this truely burns me up, we have lost some GREAT crabbing spots due to idiots leaving empty chicken packages, cans and bottles and twine all over the dang place........really sucks for the people who take the time to pick up after themselves and take care of the land that they are fortunate enough to have access to......

Most people think running shape is starved down... including a bunch of "hog hunters".

I made a smartass comment earlier in this thread just messing around BUT if I had one honest gripe about other hunters and fishermen for that matter it would be about leaving trash and tearing up things that are not theirs to tear up.......I can't stand driving down a lease road and seeing trash up and down both sides of it........not much different than when my other 1/2 and myself go to some of our favorite crabbing and fishing spots just to find them now off limits due to  inconsiderate jerkoffs leaving trash all over the place and tearing up roads.....this truely burns me up, we have lost some GREAT crabbing spots due to idiots leaving empty chicken packages, cans and bottles and twine all over the dang place........really sucks for the people who take the time to pick up after themselves and take care of the land that they are fortunate enough to have access to......

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I dont know what it is about the south but we do have some trashy people here. I go up every year to bearhunt Canada, Wisc. or Michigan & they have the cleanest woods I have seen. You literally do not see trash along the roads. I know any major city in the US you will find trash but out in the woods, they have us beat handsdown.

LOL, SORRY HALFBREED...DIDN'T MEAN IT THAT WAY. I JUST KIND OF FIGURED IT WAS THAT WAY EVERY WHERE. IS IT NOT?

I hate fake people getting into hog dogging for the money or reputation .!   What happen to the culture, food you need to feed your family? The herritage of hog dogging , or sport of it . Seems like everyone I talk to is competeing against each other . I promise if guys would swallow their pride stop competeing hunt together instead against each other theyd have a hell of a better time and catch more hogs .

Gripes are everyone seems to forget our herritage or doesnt think about our kids future its a sport not a competition

HATERS!!!

O 1 BIG gripe I have (not like it matters because I never say anything about it to change it but still) is when I see and hear first hand about people buying dogs and or pups at the first of the month for 1 price then within a 1-2 weeks the same dang dogs and or pups are back up for sale for 3-4x's the price they were just bought for!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I understand when you buy pups and put the time into em and buy shots/ meds etc etc needing to raise the price but seriously......what could you have done to the dog or pup in 2 weeks that constitutes the triple or quadruple in price ??? ??? ??? ???........nothing more than greed..plain and simple greed........

fat hoghunters that can walk hunt for chit..only cuz im poor and cant afford a ranger right now....but mostly know it alls that tell me not teach me

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I hate when ppl tell me I hunt with to many ppl.  If you dont like it get yur own hunting spots.I like humting with my friends and having a good time

Now that hurts my feelings  >:(

Slow and steady wins the race (says the fat man  ;D)

Justin i understand your gripes but theres time money patience all that is worth a buck now days .I dont mind paying more for tge pup if its all true what theyve done to the pups or dogs. like got them started or aggression broke or whatever progress i didnt have to gamble on a pup or dog that i didnt know for sure it would work out . Look at what your paying for abd how they bought the pups or dogs .Unstarted ,aggression , skinny wormy etc . Im not downing you but I used to do the same gripe about prices etc but it goes back to me previous post everyones getting into dogging for the money , reputation, and competition .

Dang a fat guy can't walk hunt with out being downed? I'm in big trouble.

I'm not gonna argue with you nor am I downing you but I know whats happenin with them pups, plain and simple. The fella you bought em from is one of my closest friends and the guy you told about em a couple days ago happens to be one of my number 1 hunting buddies........it is what it is......3 for 100 1 week and not 3 weeks later the same 3 pups for a 100 a piece .......it ain't right, bottom line. But it ain't my problem. Just gotta shake my head when I know for a fact that Coburn coulda got 300 a puppy all day every day and twice on sunday but being the guy that he is he sold em for next to nothing because he ain't in this sport to make a buck.......the momma to them pups is one of the hog findenest gyps i've ever hunted behind and the daddy is a shut em down in a hurry type dog so really the price you are askin for em now ain't screwing anyone over.....just the principle of the matter.........

And also they werent wormd hadnt had their 8 in one shots i drove almost 3 hrs and theyre barking at a 30 lb hog now do the math a 4 month old pup barking at a pig is worth the 100 a peice im asking

good deal, hope they sell quick for you.........

Justin , left you a instant message . And it was a month & 3 days ive had pups ....... Thanks

good deal and good luck

When you and a few guys combined packs to hunt and at the first bark of the day you hear the other guys say" my dog got em"  rolleyes

Lol always love that one!

Not a gripe but I do find it amusing. Especially funny when said dog comes running from somewhere else heading to the bark and you see the dog that supposedly just found the pig. LOL

Lmao @ chad7376

Wannabe hunters I had a hunter pull up next to me at 7-11 one morning and ask me if I new a particular hunter and I told him yea I did he went on to tell me how many pigs he caught with this guys and went into detail hunts with him. When he left my son looked up at me and asked do you know him and I said never met the man in my life then why was he saying he hunted with you.

Hahaha that's classic! I don't know how you didn't start laughing at the guy.

He caught me off gaurd....honestly it was funny after but im a nice guy and was almost second guessing myself. Lol for a wile I thought mh heavy drinking was catching up to me....lmao

Hypa, i had a similar thing happen to me a few years ago. I was in sour lake picking up feed and a younger kid probly17-19 started talkin dogs with me......LONG story short he tells me about a "huge" boar he caught recently.......ot took everything in me to not crack up when he showed me a picture of a hog I CAUGHT with a buddy of mine on MY lease tied on the back of MY fourwheeler with 1 of MY dogs and one of my buddies in the picture lol.....a picture that I TOOK.......the hog was maybe 220lbs MAYBE......we still laugh about it and to this day and Have no idea how that fella got that picture lol

Thats good stuff!

Aint that somethin!!!!! Now that would have been a awkward moment. ..yoi should have asked him what the dogs name was and if he would be interested in selling it to ya! Wow! Picture an all

Lol, i posted it on here shortly after it happened, i'll see if i can't dig up the picture.....

I hate it when people hoot and holler at the dogs and whoop on them the whole time. I understand once or twice a hunt but if the whole time your screamin at dogs you can't be havin to much fun

x2...and they whoop the dogs off a hog...then they get mad again when the dogs break off the next hog and back away because they are thinking whooppin time again...

When you take someone hunting and they have these awesome dogs...and so you leave a couple at home and then there dogs never leave your feet or there bulldog will not go to a bay ???  had that happen a couple times


And people that steal your stuff or your spots !!

You know what i hate most is when people talk all that non-sense about us folks that kill our hogs! I do it for the rush and down where I am from farm land and costal fields if was to get caught turning a pig back I wouldn't have no where to hunt I might take 1 or 2 pigs out Alive a year for ppl that want em but I live no where close enough to a buying station for it to be worth my while to make money! I have a damn good job i did not get into hog hunting To make money I did it for the rush and the love I have to watch dogs work! I don't insult or talk bad about ppl taking pigs out or barring hogs I think it's awesome yal go out and catch 3 to 400 pound Barr's, so I don't understand why ppl cause so much grief over guys like me killing my hogs! I promise we ain't gonna run out of hogs to catch lol! I am always more then welcome to let anyone tag along with me I like meeting new folks and watching some damn good dog work and slaying bacon that's what it's all about! So with that being said to hell with all the bickering get out in woods kill, tie , or Barr get them dogs in the woods and work there butts this is the time of the year i catch most my big pigs so I am at it 2 to 3 times a week! Wasn't trying to hurt no ones feelings but happy hunting and stack that bacon!

Money ? I must be doing it wrong because it costs my a lot each month. But then again I don't buy and resell dogs. Don't sugar coat it Justin.


    Trash in this sport is going to be the reason it gets outlawed. Fence jumping and borderline animal abuse.

I don't buy and re sale dogs either! I got 4 dogs in my pens that go out n get the job done and done right so it don't cost me much money the furthest I have to drive to any of my spots is 30 min so not much in diesel! So yeah i kill the number 2 out of em any day I have off hell even my nights to work i might go kill one

And if you say you have never crossed a fence line you didn't have premmision on I call bullnumber 2 or either you some have some super star and super smart dogs that don't go to other properties on a runner lol!

I have when uou take someone to one of ur private places then they go back and get permission to hunt it then u cant hunt it anymore thats what makes me mad

Man I like that one!

I got several things that get to me. 
Trash/beer cans
Skinny dogs
Not protecting your dogs with cut gear.
Not taking care of a cut dog! (Oh they can lick it they will be fine!)
To many dogs on the ground! I know a guy that bought a second Garmin so he could track all his dogs!
People that invite you hunting and tell you to bring a couple dogs then kick 10 outta their box.

There's more I'm sure but I'm done for now! Lol!!!

I agree with everything you said EXCEPT the "people invite you hunting and tell you to bring a couple dogs then kick 10 outta their box" part.......

While i have not and wont ever run 10 dogs at a time in my honest opinion if i am invited on a hunt and grt told to bring a couple dogs thats exactly what i do....who am I to be mad that the person kind enough to invite me is bringin 10 of their dogs to hunt???

Another thing that gripes me is when u take someone with u and yall get it hobbled is that one of the guys u bring kill it after u go through the trouble of getting him down and hobbleing it

I m kinda with Justin, even though I ve never hunted with anyone that brought quite that many or dumped that many at one time, if you don't like their style of hunting and your invited, how can you gripe? Now if you invite them I could maybe see but most hunters I hunt with ask me "how many dogs you want me to bring" we also normally have an idea what kinda hunting we re gunna do roading, casting, etc. I m not typically going to hunt with someone completely different than I do, UNLESS we take turns dropping dogs and he roads then picks up and then I cast etc....  I also kinda for agree with why it would "bother" someone "running dogs without cut gear" I ve had 2 of my dogs get cut Pretty bad and both places the cuts were located cut gear wouldn't prevent.... I know ALOT of ppl that run dogs without cut gear and some that do, neither here nor there who am "I" to tell someone how to run THEIR dogs? Too each their own..

Oh I can be mad if I want! Lol!!!
Needless to say I took my ball and went home! I wasn't about to watch that cluster! Much less let my dogs be apart of it! Just say they did find a hog could you imagine what that would be like!

Lol @ sneaky....
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Lol!! Fat a$$!!!

A bunch of trashy assed dogs !  Man suppose to have good dogs next thing you know they running everything but a hog.  Are a man tells you before you ever go O yeah my dogs are cow broke wooooo weeeeeeee now that will get my blood to boiling quicker than anything  .  Oooooooooooooo he are shes on a hog man I know that bawl I know that bark next thing I know all my dogs are back at the wheeler looking like they been hit with a nuke and am saying to myself oooooooooooooo chit get up there and they got a cow are calf bayed .  Man o man Ill stop here.

Hahaha

I will never understand this either mike alot of guys down here in s LA don't get it .they kill to many hogs ,I think they think its a competition on who can kill the most hogs they need to ease up !

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i thought there is a hog problem, hence the need to hunt....

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lmao seriously holly ship thats good stuff lol

the biggest thing that pisses me of and i have no clue why but those stupid as 'caught hog?' shirts lol. the ppl i have meet that wear them are just like 'ya thats right i got me a bulldog and i caught 500 hogs lastnight not one under 600 pounds.. you must not be a real hawg hunter ifs ya dont have one of dem there shirts ' not all of them but alot that are down my way

people who catch more hogs than me.

lol

Hard to find any true "hogmen" around anymore. ;)

It burns me up to see friends become enemy's
Over a hunting spot   kinda childish when you both have permission to the place

My final point in this thread is this. I think at one point or another we all get fed up or aggravated with this sport, i am guilty of getting frustrated in the woods from time to time and have really been giving an honest effort to not get upset when things don't go my way in the woods and keep telling myself that i didnt get in this sport to be a cut throat take no prisoners all business hunter. I do it because I love it, i love everything about this sport, i got into it serioudly in 2004 and it seems like the last couple years I have lost the fun aspect to it by getting wound up when it doesn't go my way. I now try like hell to maintain a good attitude when im in the woods and keep it fun, this may sound stupid but i really think my dogs have noticed my change in attitude and it has affected them in a positive way as well.

Next time you are in the woods and get frustrated for one reason or another take a step back sit down and just soak it in, remember guys n gals....this is supposed to be fun.

x10,000,000 same chit right here

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Louie, In places there are hog problems. In others, there is so much pressure on the hogs they barely make it. I hunt for the fun & sport of it. The places I am talking about, you can hunt there during deer season or turkey season & places like that are hard to come by so we are a little protective of it. I have never minded if somebody wants to kill a hog for meat or to mount one. But to take out every hog you catch in a area like that is like shooting yourself in the foot.
  Most of the places we hunt, we do what the landowner wants. If he wants them dead, they are dead or taken out.
  On public hunting ground we turn loose probably 90% of the hogs we catch, where we catch them at.