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Title: Genetic defects
Post by: hatchett on June 15, 2013, 01:15:03 pm
Will genetic defects be doubled with heavy line breeding and inbreeding such as uncle to niece and father daughter also if have male with genetic defect and make total outcross would still have chance of popping up in your half bloods


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: Shotgun wg on June 15, 2013, 01:36:44 pm
Why breed an animal that has genetic defects? I don't see the point. All u get Is pups with genetic defect regardless if it does or does not present it self.


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: hatchett on June 15, 2013, 01:45:12 pm
Or should stud b kept from breeding totally


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: hatchett on June 15, 2013, 01:46:13 pm
I wouldn't myself just see it done from time to time was curious as to affects


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: hatchett on June 15, 2013, 01:57:57 pm
Male in question is bred to lots and Still


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: Amokabs on June 15, 2013, 03:21:40 pm
Define "genetic defect".  When breeding, look at ALL attributes of the dogs involved. Look at all the negatives of the dogs involved.  If , in your opinion, the positives outweigh the negatives enough that you think the puppy's will be an improvement over their parents, go for it. Ultimately, however, you have to consider also your name and reputation is riding on the pups you produce. High price to pay for producing sub par animals. Very rewarding when pups turn out well and people are very pleased with them


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: hatchett on June 15, 2013, 04:09:46 pm
Hip displaceia and inverted eye lids these r coonhounds I'm talking about and this line is notorious but r just bred again and again because they win


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: Amokabs on June 15, 2013, 08:33:41 pm
Breeding dogs that continually throw crippled hips is border line unethical, i guess thats a nice way to put it. Folks can justify it by saying the dogs excel in their chosen field, but it aint right to bring dogs into the world that are gonna be crippled up and suffer, just my opinion.


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: rdjustham on June 16, 2013, 08:08:59 am
If i knew my dogs had a phsyical genetic defect I would NOT breed them.  However that being said all my dogs seem to have a genetic defect, they are all retarded  ;D


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: Hog Dog Mike on June 17, 2013, 07:39:32 am
You can't fool Mother Nature.


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: Muddogkennels on June 17, 2013, 03:46:42 pm
if she's a super dog do it!


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: mike rogers on June 17, 2013, 08:07:04 pm
why dont you have them checked by a vet to see if they carry the gene or if they have hip displacia.    If they do then I sure wouldn't breed'm.


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: dub on June 18, 2013, 05:44:13 pm
I thougt it was that you breed dogs. Cull anything that is not 100% then breed those and keep going until the defects are bred out of the line. To me the worst thing you can do is breed a dog with a known defect. Now that is different than something undesirable. If a dog has a behavior issue you can breed to a dog without it for a stronger hunter but you do not breed the pups with the behavior issue. But as far as genetics you have to work hard to remove those problems. That is like putting boards with termites in the house you are building thinking you can get rid of the termites later. Just use the boards without termites to begine with and save yourself all the headaches.


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: T-Bob Parker on June 18, 2013, 06:34:02 pm
Most of the dogs I had when I started had a genetic defect.



It was called Suckatthisjobitis.
I've found that there's a huge number of dogs that suffer from this condition.





 :laugh:


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: T-Bob Parker on June 18, 2013, 06:37:55 pm
The ones that didnt have that disease had tripoverem. They didnt really "suffer" from it, till I saw something better was out there.

Most of my current crop has come down with potlickerosis, and they've all caught a huge case of quityerjobandhuntus.

 ;)


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: Muddogkennels on June 19, 2013, 05:32:40 am
lol


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: justincorbell on June 19, 2013, 06:40:00 am
then theres the ever present caintfindporkataffaeventitis...usually coupled with dontcaretoneitheritis....this is a bad one and it seems to run rampant........got a couple in my yard that Im about to "cure" of it today  ;)


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: boone823 on June 19, 2013, 08:49:22 am
then theres the ever present caintfindporkataffaeventitis...usually coupled with dontcaretoneitheritis....this is a bad one and it seems to run rampant........got a couple in my yard that Im about to "cure" of it today  ;)
  Sounds like an early retirement case to me.


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: boone823 on June 19, 2013, 08:55:05 am
Heck I know of a lot of humans that have these defects also.


Title: Re: Genetic defects
Post by: justincorbell on June 19, 2013, 06:30:41 pm
then theres the ever present caintfindporkataffaeventitis...usually coupled with dontcaretoneitheritis....this is a bad one and it seems to run rampant........got a couple in my yard that Im about to "cure" of it today  ;)
  Sounds like an early retirement case to me.

I pretty sure its was an unexpected early retirement to them......