Title: Conditioned dogs. Post by: dodgegirl on June 16, 2013, 09:06:40 pm For all of you who have conditioned a bull dog before, I just have a few questions. I do not own a well bred bulldog, but in my eyes I own a well bred dogo. Now I know genetics has a lot to do with the way working apbt looks.But I was wanting to try to condition my pup bambino. I have a spring pole, I will be hand walking him, have a weight pull harness on the way, and I will also be rigging up a flirt pole. Now my question is, how long do I start off exercising him? I don't want him to be dead beat tired. I want him to enjoy it and want to do more the next day. Yes, i know it will take hard work and dedication but I'm up for it. Any and all information will be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: Trey on June 16, 2013, 10:03:27 pm First thing, Is he fully grown? no sense messsing him up trying to get him ripped if he is a pup.
Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: Shotgun wg on June 16, 2013, 10:14:01 pm I would start my walks at a half and pick it up if it looks to tired. Once it gets that down just keep extending the distance until he is at ur limit then break out the wheeler and let it run. The main thing is to watch the way they act and don't let them over heat. This will build endurance and conditioning. The spring pole and such I would just work it till it looks tired and stop. The time will increase with conditioning. If u start slow and work up u will be suprised at what they are capable of. My old lab could run for 12 hours in rice,bean,and cotton fields in mud in his younger days. He started with 15 min trips with a nap in between at 12 to 14 weeks.
Title: Re: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: Fixitlouie on June 16, 2013, 11:52:00 pm at 37 if my dog cant hang with me running on concrete he must go..i will never run for months at a time then bust out 2-3 miles. I skiprope,box,ect.but hardley ever run..i hate running.
from me.....who else. tapatalk Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: dodgegirl on June 17, 2013, 02:58:03 pm First thing, Is he fully grown? no sense messsing him up trying to get him ripped if he is a pup. He's just over a year. I'm not looking to get him ripped right now. I'm just trying to get him use to have so etching behind him / keeping him active. That way when the time comes we can start training hard. Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: dodgegirl on June 17, 2013, 02:59:42 pm "Something behind him" freakin phone changes my words
Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: Trey on June 17, 2013, 07:25:00 pm Large bred dog like that my advice would be long walks and let him grow up some more before I really started stressing his jonts and teeth.
Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: TexasHogDogs on June 17, 2013, 07:51:35 pm dodgegirl, when you go on your walks with your dog don't just walk him on a short lead rope . If you are walking out in the wide open like fields and such were there is plenty of room put your dog on a about a 25' 30' foot rope are even longer if the room lets you. What this does is if you start out walking a mile on a short lead rope the dog has no room to move but if you use the 25'30' foot rope this dog can get out and run round and round you and by the time you get to your mile your dog has done really walked are ran twice that much so a mile equals two miles if you think that is what he has done. Twice as much walking in one walk !
I would not try and pull to much weight with him he is still young . Walk him out rub him down let him have alittle break and then put him on the spring pole for a few mins are so then walk him out again half the distance you started out with . But you know you have to watch your dog and don't let him get over heated any signs of that quit and come back the next day. Its not like you are working him out for a competition just trying to put some shape on him. LOL you do all this and you yourself will be hard as nails LOL. I bet we were walking dogs five six seven miles a nite at one time have some one watching the jenny with a dog while we were walking one out then we get back with that one and he would go on the jenny and the other one would come off and we would walk him out then rub him down then all the other stuff and put him up for the nite . Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: kerreydw on June 17, 2013, 09:42:51 pm the dogos im around are a nervous type dog in the first place,i keep mine on a 100ft cable runs they stay in good shape on there on. feed them good meat protien make shure he is mature before you start working him. as far as working game bread pits you spend lots of time on the road its not just 3or 4 miles a day thats the warm up.lol
Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: GET.LOW.CURS on June 17, 2013, 11:33:41 pm Don't walk the dog. Do u want a house dog or a hog dog ? If u want to exercise him put him behind the truck and drive.
Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: Rocking Y on June 17, 2013, 11:50:10 pm Don't walk the dog. Do u want a house dog or a hog dog ? If u want to exercise him put him behind the truck and drive. I agree with this to an extent. I never walk my cur dogs because it seems to make em wanna be around more and they naturally stay in shape. I walk my pits to teach them obedience and keep em in shape. I always have my catchdogs a whole lot easier to handle than my baydogs Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: dodgegirl on June 18, 2013, 06:01:05 am Don't walk the dog. Do u want a house dog or a hog dog ? If u want to exercise him put him behind the truck and drive. Please tell me how walking my dog makes him a house dog? Title: Re: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: Fixitlouie on June 18, 2013, 07:42:32 am I dont think he/she is dissin ya. just growing up all coaches would say 1/3 of race should be the work out...ie. one mile race= 3 miles practice...so if using as a rcd and he will put down a few miles. then times that by 3 few times a week...so
from me.....who else. tapatalk Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: bob on June 18, 2013, 09:13:23 am I teach my bulldogs handle from a young age , I have five , three which are game breed pits , I run all them in a pack together on the river in the pastures , no leads , I will run a mile at there pace at first which is fast because they just got off there runs and are pumped , I'll run to the water and take a break , let them swim and drink and then make another mile or so circle and back to the water we go, we will do this a couple of times a week and depending on the heat is how many miles we go , I watch them close and they will tell me by there look when there done , my female was in heat the last two times and I took both game bred males anyway with my gun and shock collars , they listened well and did not haft to use either LOL , I have extreme handle with my pack and very well exercised , I walk my bay dogs on a horse walker in the summer up to 6 hrs at a time , also watching them so I know when they are done
Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: bob on June 18, 2013, 09:50:42 am I've never had a dogo , but I'm sure the same will apply , I failed to say I'm on a Atv and I do run a 92 lb American in that group , my house dog LOL , my youngest male will go over 30 mh on his sprints , very fast , they love this time , I know this is a condition post , but while you condition your dog waiting for it to mature , teach it handle , it's the most important thing , multiple dogs , kids , people , water, loud noises , boats ect. A well condition dog is no good with no handle , if you do this you will have the best dog you have ever owned and will know it inside and out. Good luck
Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: GET.LOW.CURS on June 18, 2013, 10:13:11 am Bob had a lot of good tips. I'm not trying to say your dog isn't a hog dog I was simply trying to say walking a dog is not conditioning a hog dog. Sure it will help with his handle but walking a dog is nothing compared to what he gonna go through on a hunt
Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: dodgegirl on June 18, 2013, 12:40:20 pm The point of hand walking him is not to condition him to be a hog dog. He already keeps up with the other dogs. I'm trying to make him a multi purpose dog. I'm going to bring him to competions such as "weight pulling & wall climbing" of course not until he is of age. I have a pretty good handle on him already. Which with time I think will only get better.
I appreciate all the advice Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: Rodeo on July 22, 2013, 11:16:11 pm also remember he is still a puppy, at least until he turns 2. what he really needs is to walk and run, cardio is what makes muscles grow and you can also buy some red cell that we use on horses to tone him too
Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: Scott on July 23, 2013, 08:31:55 am I'm not trying to say your dog isn't a hog dog I was simply trying to say walking a dog is not conditioning a hog dog. Sure it will help with his handle but walking a dog is nothing compared to what he gonna go through on a hunt The history of gamedogs tends to disagree with your assertion... Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on July 23, 2013, 11:25:17 am I'm not trying to say your dog isn't a hog dog I was simply trying to say walking a dog is not conditioning a hog dog. Sure it will help with his handle but walking a dog is nothing compared to what he gonna go through on a hunt The history of gamedogs tends to disagree with your assertion... x 2. "If he's a good bulldog he already has all the tools, If you want him to stay you just need to walk him.." Floyd B. Title: Re: Conditioned dogs. Post by: ELIBOLIO on July 23, 2013, 08:18:17 pm First and foremost , its wise to make sure the dog is worm and parasite free. I think it rather behooves one who is conditioning a dog, to contour/tailor the work at least somewhat toward it's competition. Since we cannot do that to any exactness , I think tailoring their work to certain expressions of energies they will expend, is probably wise.So, while even a dog that seems to pace itself well may seem just right, that dog STILL will have to display bursts of energy at times during the hunt. And, I believe a work regimen which is rather contoured to this is beneficial come crunch time. I believe wind sprints to be a part of that tailoring. It's one of the few things we can do in order to condition for such energy expenditures. There are other devices and exercises which can be used for similar results, but I believe wind sprints belong right in there with them.
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