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Title: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: Purebreedcolt on August 13, 2013, 06:04:44 pm
Buddys have been after a boar hog for a couple months and the durn thing keeps beating them I have been on him once and he will bay up as pretty as can be just in the thick wait for the durn cds wipe his butt with them and haul butt 300 400 yards and do it again lol. Seen some of the hogs these cds have caught and they are good as most cds maybe not the best but far from the worst.  How would yall catch him. 


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: floridahogdoghunter on August 13, 2013, 06:11:27 pm
couple years ago we were trying to catch a bad hog that keep getting away. finnally caught him by turning 2 catch dogs loose right on him and we were there as soon as he got caught. the hog had tunnels big anuff for him to go throw then it would open up into a little circle were he would turn and fight dogs then run throw another tunnel and do the same thing as before ended up catching him in 4th or fith circle


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: t-dog on August 13, 2013, 07:41:12 pm
We had a real similar situation once. I don't know what style of bay dogs you have, but ours would really get that rear end when the catch dogs caught. Because it was thick the bay dogs didn't have a lot of places to get where they could see him to bay. When they got to the same side baying him, we went to the opposite side from them to turn in the catch dogs. When he turned to fight the catch dogs he exposed the jewels to the others. That sank his boat.


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: Muddogkennels on August 13, 2013, 08:02:04 pm
I know the best way set snares on one side of the woods he bustes to then take a wide open hound an push him down some snared trails! can't catch him trick him ...


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: OWL Black Mouth Curs on August 13, 2013, 08:59:41 pm
I know the best way set snares on one side of the woods he bustes to then take a wide open hound an push him down some snared trails! can't catch him trick him ...

haha. seriously?
and if you snare all your dogs in the process?


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: chads7376 on August 13, 2013, 09:08:23 pm
I know the best way set snares on one side of the woods he bustes to then take a wide open hound an push him down some snared trails! can't catch him trick him ...

haha. seriously?
and if you snare all your dogs in the process?

Agree... Not a very well thought out process


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: hoghunter71409 on August 13, 2013, 09:09:47 pm
Ok, the hog is smart, but I don't believe he can tell the difference between a bay dog and a CD unless he knows what a vest is.  If you know where he is at, and your sure you can get him bayed off of some fresh sign, how about turning bulldog loose with bay dogs from the begining.  The hog should hear the normal bark bark and then slam!  If he is only running 300-400 yard between bays, them bay dogs ought to be able to hang in there for a good long time.  I could understand if he was breaking and then running 3-5 miles.


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: Shotgun wg on August 13, 2013, 09:19:50 pm
As many RCD's as I could get my hands on and if they couldn't find there own a couple real rough bay dogs. Get enough teeth coming at him and he won't be able to run.


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: Reuben on August 13, 2013, 09:57:47 pm
over the years we had several that were smart and got away...the first we always started from the same spot and he would run the same route and run to a place that was full of saplings and put the whip on the dogs...we made a plan and posted a man on the path with some fire power...this was a rank boar and he would stop and fight and then run...he stopped a little too long and my brother got him...but it too some planning to do so...

the other hog would run straight to where 4 pastures met at a corner and at night the cows would congregate at those locations and throw off the young dogs or they trashed on cows...the hog ran right through them and then run over an open pasture to a neighborhood and the neighborhood dogs would raise some cane...when we caught that big hog it turned out to be a huge sow...but we had a rough dog in the mix the day we caught her and that dog probably was what made the sow turn back towards the woods where they got her... 


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: justincorbell on August 13, 2013, 10:21:17 pm
As many RCD's as I could get my hands on and if they couldn't find there own a couple real rough bay dogs. Get enough teeth coming at him and he won't be able to run.

Yes sir.....send enough teeth to stop him then send some more to string his butt out if ya want him that bad!.....he cant run if all his legs are gettin chewed on ;)


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: SwampHunter on August 13, 2013, 10:47:41 pm
I would either do one of two things ,

Let him bay up an send every dog I had to him catch dogs bay dogs all every body go get some of him ,

Or let one bay dog that has alot of bottom on him an then send an open dog that way you can feed dogs to the track.  After they are baying send a all catch little terrier Patterdale jack Russell jagd something small with strong jaws that's all catch this way he will have harder time dragging it off an it can get through briars fast an if its all catch it can stay caught even if he is moving around he is still got dog attached to him then easy up on him an turn the bigger bulldogs to him
If he does shake the bigger dogs the little one should still be attached an he is not gonna just run off with a dog attached to his head or nuts 

Alot of the big bulldogs run in an hit to hard an miss there bit an that's how they get slung , also them bigger dogs don't seem to have the bit strength to me ,


The open dog is to send more dogs to him if he happens to break let him bay for a long time , get him tired  make him break bay an run just keep feeding a dog to him every so often an wear him out
I would only try this when it gets cold out ,


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: SwampHunter on August 13, 2013, 10:49:29 pm
Oh I forgot , are the bulldogs he working over straight ear dogs ???
If he never gives them a chance at his head that could be problem
Send some dogs that just catch anywhere an I bet you get him


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: Muddogkennels on August 13, 2013, 11:29:42 pm
Ya never said run dogs on the hog (Read It)  Dum ***ts! push the hog towards the snared trails with the hound your dog on a leash!!!    The Snares are a no kill snare an only are made to hold not kill!   Cam lock snares they are not a kill snare!!!!!    I have catch yotes alive every time( they do not kill!!    y'all redneck fools don't know much about flushing !!!    U ARE JUST MAKING THE HOG SMARTER IF U KEEP RUNNING HIM IF U WANT TO CATCH HIM THINK SMARTER THEN A HOG!


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: Muddogkennels on August 14, 2013, 12:06:52 am
I HAVE CAUGHT LOTS OF PIG LIKE THAT TIME AFTER TIME ON JOBS THAT NEED HOGS REMOVED FAST AN DIDN'T HAVE THE LAND TO RUN DOGS!!   I Trap an snare hogs more then running dogs it's better to snare pigs to make paper!! buys an high game fence buy are not liking the chewed up ears!!   The hog your after may not have ears !!


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: Muddogkennels on August 14, 2013, 12:56:35 am
I know the best way set snares on one side of the woods he bustes to then take a wide open hound an push him down some snared trails! can't catch him trick him ...

haha. seriously?
and if you snare all your dogs in the process?

Agree... Not a very well thought out process

 seriously !!! This works!! pushing hogs is a faster way to trap an remove hogs And using the right cam lock snare it is safe for pets and hunting dog!   So don't look down on them if y'all don't know the proper ways an trick to catch pigs with them!!! 


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: OWL Black Mouth Curs on August 14, 2013, 03:30:49 am
dum***its?
redneck fools?

yeah buddy.... lol.
i believe i'm going to steer clear of this one.


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: justincorbell on August 14, 2013, 06:29:45 am
dum***its?
redneck fools?

yeah buddy.... lol.
i believe i'm going to steer clear of this one.

its not worth your time, I promise  ;)


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: t-dog on August 14, 2013, 07:44:59 am
My thinking on the hog we were after was that he was in some real thick stuff. I was tempted to send in a bunch of sharks but figured that as thick as it was they would only get in each others way in that mangled mess. He didn't turn to fight the catch dogs because he knew they were catch dogs but because he could hear that threat coming harder, closer, faster. It worked. Plus, I figured if the catch dogs didn't get to him that he would break and go out the other side of the thicket where the bay dogs were. This would keep him from having such a jump on them and MAYBE cause a little confusion for him in a sudden change of strategy on his part.


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: UNDERDOG on August 14, 2013, 08:41:56 am
Ya never said run dogs on the hog (Read It)  Dum ***ts! push the hog towards the snared trails with the hound your dog on a leash!!!    The Snares are a no kill snare an only are made to hold not kill!   Cam lock snares they are not a kill snare!!!!!    I have catch yotes alive every time( they do not kill!!    y'all redneck fools don't know much about flushing !!!    U ARE JUST MAKING THE HOG SMARTER IF U KEEP RUNNING HIM IF U WANT TO CATCH HIM THINK SMARTER THEN A HOG!


Muddog....Kepp it respectful or don't post. You have been borderline one too many times for me, this is the last time I will ask you.


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: TexasHogDogs on August 14, 2013, 10:43:29 am
Only way it seems to catch him is put enuff T-Rex'es on him.  Have a couple if not two three good RCD that will stay with the pack and as soon as they strike the RCD's are there with the find dog.  Have a pack of dogs that will all pile drive him at the same time every dog helping catch .  The key is they got to be with the find dog when he first finds the hog that keeps him from running because if the running ever starts that's when it turns into hell  trying to get him stopped and he is getting futher and futher away from you and then you cannot get there fast enuff to help your dogs ,   try to be as close as you can to your dogs when they are hunting so you can be there as quick as you can.

We had all kinds of hell with the big boars hearing the catch dogs coming and as soon as they heard, smelled are sensed  the CD's were coming they were outta there never giving them a chance .  This crapped all stopped when we started putting a great RCD that would stay with the find dog and be there on the spot in his face and T-Boned his big butt and all the rest piled in .  It sure worked for us .

Only other way I take care of them sitituations is take a loose find dog are two so he would stand and then turn the Little Mule loose on him the 12 ga. 1oz slug that catch dog has taken care of a bunch of them kind !  Its a fix for the dog killers !


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: hoghunter71409 on August 14, 2013, 10:45:48 am
So find some good plotts and run one dog at a time and run the hog to death.  Thats what I do....


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: Purebreedcolt on August 14, 2013, 11:17:25 am
Yeah I gpt the cds and rcds but always just been 1 or 2 lead ins on him. Pretty predictiable in that respect but dpnt run same rout and dont always find in same spot.  Usually we run and miss they leave this one we hit in montys benifit hunt and then now4 times since that I was not there.  I durn sure aint gping tp be leading a bawling hpund he is liable tp put me in a wprld of hurt he has dpne treed pne guy twice and anpther once and had it not been for a loose dog at a caught pig he might have got a buddy of mine.  Im not used to hogs like this you dog them and not catch them they move on this one is sticking around and around bays lol.  I want to wait for cooler weather and daylight personally.


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: hoghunter71409 on August 14, 2013, 12:12:30 pm
I durn sure aint gping tp be leading a bawling hpund he is liable tp put me in a wprld of hurt he has dpne treed pne guy twice and anpther once and had it not been for a loose dog at a caught pig he might have got a buddy of mine. 

What?

Not sure what you meant by "leading a bawling hound"....I've got some plotts that wont bawl, and a couple that will grab his nuts and make him sit there.  I prefer these runners that most people cant catch.  I got something for them, and there aint now bawling or treeing or snaring.  You just got to have a different style dog to catch these runners. 


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: Purebreedcolt on August 14, 2013, 12:42:38 pm
Talking about muddogs post. I see where he is getting at but impossiable. Not same route or same spot struck


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: reatj81 on August 14, 2013, 02:07:37 pm
Sure easy to see who got picked on in school


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: SwampHunter on August 14, 2013, 03:47:55 pm
I Donno what you mean by leading a bawling hound .......... Only 2 things that can be bad about a hound , your catch dog will follow them trailing in hot weather can be bad ,
2nd thing is you gotta listen to people bad mouth hounds that they make hogs run more an blah blah but that Anit the truth


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: Purebreedcolt on August 14, 2013, 04:07:59 pm
Lol yall got that statement all wrong I dont want to be tied to any dog that is barking the way this hog has been acting last few bays he is truly agressive.  Is said a bawling hound because that is what muddog had said use


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: ckm on August 31, 2013, 10:59:34 am
iv got the same problem now and im going to try to work the hog from the other side when the wind is right so as to push the hog into the open fields instead of the thick brush where she kicks the number 2 outa my dogs iv got a rcd pit and she beats his ass and hes a smaller build dog with good bite but still bi#ch aint got no ears left now so im goin to push her to the open fields and throw all my cds at her and run my as# off and get there maybe try that yourself.


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: Purebreedcolt on August 31, 2013, 06:34:21 pm
Get a text this morning about 2 or so think they caught him or at least he did normal bayed right up but then they sent a total of about 9 dogs to him not a lot of teeth but real sharp and he knew how to use them. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y114/purebreedcolt/1377991801_zps6e6f69f6.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/purebreedcolt/media/1377991801_zps6e6f69f6.jpg.html)


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: firemedic on September 01, 2013, 06:34:47 pm
110 grains of copper and lead......no more running hog.


Title: Re: how smart can a boar hog be.
Post by: shuttin em down on September 03, 2013, 04:02:42 pm
My bay dogs catch when they see the catch dogs comin