EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

First and foremost, I would like to say rip to all of those who passed away on this tragic day. Today is certainly a day that will never be forgotten.

Second, thank you to those who are/ have served to keep this country Safe .Y'all are just incredible people.

But third, as we mourn this day & everyone talks about all the people who passed. Why aren't they thinking about the future? Why aren't they worried about what " their" president is dragging us into. God only knows what's going to happen or how many more people are going to lose their lives. Now maybe it just my age group 19-25 that maybe they don't know what's going on?. Now I mean no disrespect to everyone affected by this day, nor do I mean to take away from remembering them. But it's just something that kind of got me thinking.

Or maybe I'm just to young & don't look at it the right way.

What exactly are you referring to?

   Syria kevin . but I heard that is on hold for now  .

Referrring to 9/11..I guess some have forgotten. :(

I certainly didnt forget becuase I spent time in the desert fighting those daddy didn't marry mommys and trying to protect those that could not protect themselves.

Come on guys...dont forget our Vets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would like to thank all the vet for there service!! I also have family in the service my daughter in law  is in afganastan now my son has been there several times and also my son in law has been there. I would say thanks to all past and present who serve and will never forget  this date. I was on a coker turnaround in citgo lake Charles at the time remember it like it was yesterday!!!

And while u and i and bunch others were eatin sand n protecting a buncha commies, our government still brought them sandies into our country, give them money to buy up more gas stations on top of buying oil from them n then turn around n buy the refined raghead gas.

I KNOW she was referring to 9/11

I was 11V...C Co. 1st Bn. 75th Ranger Regiment

Go easy on your chastising.

I was referring to the 3rd part and I FIGURED she was referring to Syria but was just trying to get her to solidify her stance. She SOUNDS opposed.

I say go in n lay their syrian twig n berries in the fryin pan n feed it to them. In order to do it correctly, there cant be any news media, put them in the fryin pan along with the syrians

We should have invaded Syria,Iran and Pakistan and left Iraq along

Easy now, lol. You can't do it all at once. Politics...not just in our country, but world politics play a major role.

Support you country and your troops but Leave the Strategy to the Strategist. They've kept us on top for almost 250 years.

As an 11 b in lrsd and scout I can tell you first hand we should let them fight amongst them selfs you can't win when it's turf wars that's been going 2000 years.a lot of good people will die for no change

I agree let them handle their own mess as long as its within their borders. Once the smoke clears look at the result and then do what needs done. Once u decide what needs done don't half ass it. Hit them like a sledge hammer and make it count.


Shotgun
Arkansas

in my honest opinion screw syria and the rest of them ragheads........they hate us regardless, bring OUR troops home to defend OUR borders......to hell with them.

 defend what borders Justin? our communist government wont enforce the current fed immigration policies and wont let individual states enforce or create their own policies. overseas is where the money is, both civi and military. I miss being deployed and trying to get back into shape to join the military again and to finish what I started back in 97. the downside to being over there is eatin sand all the time. 

Justin for President.........  :)

Amen Justin! I Agree with you 110%

So....we post 100,000 troops on our Mexican and Canadian Borders....this could have stopped 9/11 right?

Lets put it in terms we can all understand.

Hogs are tearing up your cornfield. You have traps out but your not having any luck trapping them. You are pretty sure where they bed up at so your best bet is to send in the dogs.

Exactly. Take the fight to the enemy. I agree with having our troops hm, but i dont want the jihad war on my soil, being polluted by who knows what chemical weapons or dirty bombs. I know not 1 single 1 of ya want the fight on ur front door, so there for we wage war on their door steps.

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I know some or most may not agree...but, didn't Japan attack on US soil and we gave them the ultimate counter punch?  Why not do the same thing?  Clear out that desert for good.

Yeah yeah, some will say it would start a nuclear war.  But, I don't think anyone out there really wants a piece of the US.  What we need is someone in the big house with some sack.  What happened to, you fight a war and take the land you won?

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Everybody has an opinion...how would your opinion change if you were an elected official , nominated official or senior military officer and you were armed with intelligence, updates, and teams advising you.  You may change your opinion, whatever it is.  Always amazes me how much the average citizen thinks they know best, but they have no idea what intelligence and influence our government is under.  I mean most of the people on this site that are commenting on troops fighting overseas have no information other than what they see on the news and I am here to tell you, the news is not always right.  And, I fully support the government not telling citizens everything.  I don't believe we have a need to know certain things.

I may not necessary like our Government Officials and leaders, but I respect senior officers and I trust there judgement.  Even General Grade officers don't see the same every time.  I'm all for sending troops overseas if it protects out countries best interests and if the fight is best for our global economy.  The global economy is probably the one most important factor in the world.

 DWEST, that kinda war of "take the land u won" would make us look like the bad guys, then we place ourselves in the same boat ole hitler did by exiling Germany and fighting numerous countries at the same time. we r having hell fighting multiple fronts now, think if it was with numerous other high power countries. we have defended the rights of people to make the choice of joining the military or talkin chit about soldiers, we cant sustain the manpower. I do agree we stomp their sack into the sand, mud, snow or what ever terrain is there, but again, the world media is whats hurting our war fighting, along with gutless politicians who care more about their next reelection instead of taking care of business. u bring up a good point with Japan. after WWI we isolated ourselves, allowed other countries in the world to advance in airpower, naval and ground superiority that we were caught with our pants around our ankles during pearl harbor.

our politicians are bought and sold. they don't have the true power, the old saying of money talks and BS walks is true. the American citizen, who grants the government their powers to govern them should have the right to know what our government is blowing our tax money on, giving relief aid to countries who cant afford to tend to their people, let along payback the aid given to them. we keep giving our products away faster than we can grow/mine it, we wont have anything for ourselves, then this country will need the hand out.

come on now,you got to admit we had a little to do with the hogs spreading, and, hell , it' good entertainment to hunt them. Plus they eat good.  But as a North Carolinian they aint much I don't like about a hog. So to me  your comparison is pretty weak, I say let them rag heads fight it out amongst themselves, we got plenty of problems right here to worry about. When they come down here be time to fight again. Hell they can have Mexico and Canada, I'll throw in New England and California. You young boys might not see it, but that fight's coming, all 's needed is to figure out who we're fighting this time around.

His compairison mita been like compairing navel oranges to florida citris oranges but he figured most would get the point of "you know where the hogs "enemy" is, go to them, dont let them come to you"

Good point Charles, but I'm the kind of gut that doesn't really give a F what someone else might think of me. I'm not saying go whoop on someone just to take what's theirs, but if they step up to us they better be ready to get stomped.  To me that is the mentality that built this country...let us be, and we are good, but you F with us and we are gonna punch t poo u in the mouth

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I see it happening and would gladly stand to fight, but hope that me and mine never have to see the day that it hits our soil with the way most of these spineless residents of our country are

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I fully understand kevin and charles and you both should know I have nothing but respect for the men and women who do it. I know it'll never happen and I know why ......because our chicken chit government doesn't want it to, we are too vested in the middle east to back out now but wouldn't it be nice to live in a place where we had no enemies and all we had to worry about was ourselves? ......just wishful thinkin fella's.

Very true justin, but the faster we kick their ass, the faster we come hm. It would take whipping half the world if not a lil more before it was realised that screwin with the US would have a dieing consequince

Unfortunently i agree Charles.

U have choice but to agree, my little dune kun junstin  ;D u know im right, its just a hard pill for most to swallow. I miss the combat zones n gettin paid to be shot at, its kinda fun n exilerating.

10 4 francis lol

Maybe I misunderstood you. You say the fight for Mexico and Canada is coming?

If you know your history...you know that our country would never stand for ANY hostile government occupying bordering countries. That basic principal was established way, way back before the first Great War.

People talk about "minding our own business" and pulling ALL our troops back inside our borders. That's just unrealistic. We've let the world govern itself and a lunatic starts taking over Europe. If we do it again it would be a lunatic taking over the Middle East. Which in turn would lead to more and more terrorist attacks. Then were back in again...spilling blood....again, fighting for ground we secured once already.

IMO the best thing we could do would be to establish permanent Army/Air force bases in Iraq and Afghanistan (like we did in Europe after WWII)