EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Im bored in my tree stand  so...I figured I spin this question off Kevins post.

 I thought there was laws against sexual relations with a dog and that human/canine breeding is impossible  ;D

Considering there are many definitions of what makes a dog good or what makes a dog great in our community....there is no 1 answer.

For me it's simple.

If I am...or would be happy with the dog as my lead dog....He is breed worthy.

When I start thinking "holy crap, this is a bad som buck, if he/she got killed I'd be in a world of hurt!"
Then I wait another year and see
#1 if they're really as bad to the bone as I thought they were.
#2 if they have the smarts, quickness and agility to win out over another years worth of hogs.
#3 if I can find a related match to them who is AS GOOD OR BETTER THAN THEY ARE.

If a man is breeding dogs because he wants them and is gonna use them as in Kevins case then I'd say breed whatever you wanna breed.

When that dog shows the qualities I want.

When that dog shows me what I think a dog should and most folks I hunt with want my dog. I try to be kennel blind and for the most part I feel I am. But when u hunt with several groups and they owe u nothing and they tell u from watching ur dog on several hunts that u have a dang good dog. Then u know. Until then they are like most women u think u got a good one cause she puts out but ur buddies can see just how trashy she is.


Shotgun
Arkansas

When they CONSISTANTLY find, bay, and stay by themselves.

As long as they look like a hog dog and can consistently find their food bowl then they are breed worthy.   ;)

Whenever steve calls and says he needs more puppies lol  ;)

I keep it simple... If I like em... I breed em... There my dogs and I will do with em as I please.

If a specific dog has traits that I like of whatever kind, and/or does whatever it's job may be well.....and I feel like it's offspring have a good shot at carrying on said traits/skills.....they will be bred if the timing is right.

Ooooooo, u didn't permission from the breeding police, just in case the dogs were unproven  >:D

You just ain't right are you Charles? I thought it was kind of funny though. "kind of" Now maybe he has been up in that tree stand a little too longand Charles does have the question right ???

 When a dog is irreplaceable. I have yet to breed a litter. Too many people breed dogs in my eyes. I have a few solid dogs that many would love to have. All my females are fixed except for a young pup. Between the dog peddlers , my "yard" and legit breeders there are too many dogs for sale as it is  . I get pups from a few friends and I am fine with that. In hindsight I have a nice female bulldog that I would love to have had the chance to maybe breed. But a cat hooked up to her years ago and I had her fixed a week later.
  If someone wants to breed two very inexperienced dogs then so be it. It concern me really. Makes for entertainment though  

with the wording of the topic, it sounds like he is asking how long before a dog is allowed to breed to a person. I couldnt help myself though, even though I knew what he was getting at. I guess being serious though, like a couple others have said, "when the dogs they feed have the traits they like" then is when they cross them to another dog they like.

lol

In my yard...
I like to see these traits in dog before breeding, needs to be early starter, hunt hard with good bottom, good nose, bay and stick with its own hog without help. Be well behaved (pet peeve ive developed), be smart and stay alive. Prove to be a solid around dog.
Catchdogs have to hit and stay locked no regriping, be fast and smart as well. If theres any doubt in a bulldog it doesnt make the cut ...need to feel 100% safe knowing there not letting go when I get to pig.

  the best producing two gyps on my yard a thirteen year old Catahoula [ rip marie ] and my nine year old dry ground walker hound were never allowed to even bark at a hog and dropped many fine early starting go get it done with bottom for days gritty hog dogs  :o   so boy's and girl's if you don't try you never know and that's the secret to finding those reproducing dogs that are irreplaceable on a hunters yard . don't be afraid to experiment , just be true to yourself and your goals and keep the ax sharp . the best hunting dogs on your yard may not reproduce nary a pup that meets your expectations , but the dog you gave your buddy cause you didn't like the way it hunted or looked could have been carrying that magic gene we are all looking for  .    THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS , ALLWAYS HAS BEEN ALLWAYS WILL BE  .

  funny how the worst looking old scrub cow on the farm all ways throwed the best calves  lol 

 ;)

So did you cull or sell these experiments ?

Those gyps were bred to a JAM UP Catahoula. Strike, Bay and Catch by himself. He and those unproven gyps produced offspring that were DAMN good dogs and some of those offspring were bred back to those same gyps to produce MORE damn good dogs.

Every time you MAKE a first time breeding PROVEN dogs or NOT it's an experiment.

Sorry for interjecting Robert....this Dude just chaps my Arse.

yours too huh kevin?

Just because you breed two good dogs together certainly does not mean you're gonna produce all good dogs. Prime example of this is in the bulldog world. Some da*n good dogs were produced off of breeding good males to cold as ice females. I hate seeing folks criticized for taking chances. So what. It's their feed, and their responsibility to raise up/feed/test/cull accordingly.

Go back and look at Centexducks posts. Seems a GOOD portion of them are telling people what to do or Asking them questions that are snide and serve no real purpose except to confirm he's an A$$.

  Glad I have some fans.  I sometimes post when I shouldn't but more times then not it is what most people are thinking. Well it appears that way based on. The pm s I get.
    I just figured having proven dogs would help cut down on the experiments. Hell from what I have seen and heard some of the best dogs in the woods have a hard time reproducing decent dogs.

I can agree with you to a certain degree.

Thing is...some of the people you "question" have been at this game for a while.

I'm not talking about myself....I'm no expert... But I CAN pick out a young dog that has potential, maybe I've just been lucky but so far I've only been dead wrong once.

I've said it before...having high standards is fine...but don't try to impose your preferences on other people... Just makes you look like a jerk.

 there is no looking like kevin and definitely no fans

Cantexduck you got one fan brother......I hear what you're saying.

Absolutely no disrespect at all to you Kevin or Mr Whitten, but would one of these jam up dogs you are referring to happen to be jack?

   no harm no fowl cantexduck , actually a good question . all my first time crosses and even proven crosses were sold . and they went with a seller, buyer agreement that if the dogs weren't earning their feed by the time they were a year old , I would refund the purchase price . did I have to do this NO ! did I offer this deal for the sole purpose of knowing how a breeding went YES! bought back a total of three pups in 13 years , kept those 3 pups for 90 days started working them and whalla they went to work  lol  some dogs just mature later than others OR are put in the hands of fools .  to sum it up the only way to PROVE a dog [ nay any animal ]  breed worthy is to breed it there is no other way around it . say and think all you want but that is just the way it be .


  is my breeding success for hog dogs 100%  I have no idea some were sold for cowdog prospects some went as just a farm and companion dog but you get the gist of it


 and a lesson I learned messing with these hog dogs , it seems these proven dogs die way too soon  lol

sometimes a pup is well on his/her way to having breeding potential when they are 5-6 months old in my eyes...and by ten months theses pups are breed worthy...but after 3 generations out of good dogs that are line bred and even inbred I am willing to make my call on what I have seen from these type of pups and from the parents and grandparents past history as hog dogs...once I found the dogs I liked and started breeding my own I turned the females over pretty quick so that I could purify the bloodline because I didn't want to only have 3 generations in 20 years...I wanted 6 or 7 generations of great dogs so my dogs would produce as close to 100 percent hog dogs as possible...

With the dogs I have now I can say that I like them fairly well and 4 of the 5 are worth breeding but I really can't say what they will produce. I am thinking my 2 pups that are parker/mt cur crosses will produce pretty good with the mt cur gyp I have...but as far as how many good pups???I can't say for sure because of the parker blood is not familiar to me...but my gut feeling is that it will be a decent cross otherwise I wouldn't try it...the only early starters in my back yard right now are the 2 mt curs I have now...they are pretty good hunting dogs but they lack a little here and there but I am looking more at what I can not see that is in them than at them...

I'll let Robert answer that if he wants to. I have no clue who Jack is. I hunted with Robert for a few years but that ended in about 2008 when I moved further west. I know specifically of 3 generations that came out of Boudreaux (S?) and those gyps and there were more than a few pups that made FINE dogs. I owned 2 my self.

    I sold my cow dog prospect named jack  when I moved from Waxahachie  only jack I know 1/2 walker 1/2 cat out of my   ''p'' dog big black and tan houndy looking dog ?

  only jack I ever owned in 58 years mav on the board here got his sister jill never bred this dog

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  ol jack hell of a young cow dog when I had him wanted him back after I got moved  lol

I'm purdy sure there's probably some fans out there.

No one is above being asked a question/being questioned. I don't care who they are, or how long they've been doing it (it being whatever the particular topic is). Personally, I don't really care what anyone does with their property. But, I do think that if one is going to breed, they should cull. When it gets right down to the nut cuttin'...that's the problem in working dogs of any vocation today. Breed however you like, whenever you like...but, if the sorry ones aren't removed from the genepool...you're doing the working dog community a disservice.

Anyway...that's my .02 that's worth exactly zero to anyone but me...

Heck, I'm sick as a dog, just put in a twelve hour day and starting sippin NyQuil a minute ago, so what the hey, I'll chime in...  ;)

I don't mean this at all rudley.


If a line of dogs has so routinely gotten themselves killed by hogs after a season or two of hard hunting, then they have in fact "proven" themselves. They have proven that if that's the kind of dog that you enjoy and their getting the job done for you, then you'd better breed them early becuase they do not hold up to hard use over the long haul.
It just is what it is. I didn't say its a bad thing or a sin of some sort, just is what it is, if it suites the fella feeding them, then fine.


I say that because a lot of the slightly older crowd is set in their ways and it does no good to argue, but for young skulls full of mush who are reading all this, I'd just like you to consider;

Are you okay with a high turnover rate? If so, it's nobodies business but your own. I personally like dogs that are not only very talented, but also stand the test of time and can be used hard for years to come, but who cares what I like? Nobody really except me.



My pawpaw used to say if everybody liked the same thing as him, my grandma would never be able to get out of bed...  ;D

Catch my drift youngns?

X2. Even though I agree Mikes an A$$hole... Conservatively...  :P


I'll add that even though some of his post make him look that way, most have good reason or truth behind it..
Now if he posted what he REALLY wanted to say, that's when the sure enough a$$hole would come out... And probabaly get banned...  ;D

Keep posting a$$hole!!!  :D

I don't care what anyone breeds for themselves. It's when they turn around and try to sell all the pups on these experimental crosses is what aggravates me. If you cant afford to raise a few, place with other hunters and prove the cross... then you probably shouldn't be breeding them.

Hell, I give away all these junky black pups... maybe I'm doing it wrong?

Mr. Whitten,
 I'll provide you a quick recap of Jack's Hog Hunting career. I know this because he belongs to my good friend and hunting partner CuJo 72. He is a key part of our pack today and helps us catch quite a few hogs. He is well cared for and gets to hunt on a regular basis. He is a gritty help dog. Bays good and will catch a 150 lb hog by himself. Although he looks houndy, he works more like the catahoulas I have hunted with. Jack possesses certain traits that indicate he probably has a few good dogs in his family history. We are not breeders and Jack himself is not breeding material, therefore he has been castrated. 
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 Jack has taught us quite a few lessons about hog hunting. We were new to hog hunting when we got Jack and quite frankly probably didn't do him any favors. As a young dog, Jack showed glimpses of being a strike dog. He didn't hunt particularly hard but if you put him in decent sign, he would find and bay his own hog and actually do it in style. He was inconsistent in regards to how much effort he put out when hunting. To put it mildly, I'll say he was "gamey" as a young dog with a particular fondness for small black and white critters that smell bad. We figured out that we were asking too much of a young unfinished dog. We acquired some finished strike dogs and put them with Jack and it has worked well for us. He busted a few bays early on but over the past 1.5 years, he has learned when to bay and when to catch. I hope you appreciate the update as much as we appreciate Jack's contributions to our hog hunting efforts.

Well after meeting many people on here that produce some dogs most people dream about they seem to do it like Halfbreed says. Now they ain't on here selling dogs ever. They breed two dogs and see how the pups turn out. They do not hunt the dogs that produce the hunting dogs. Because then you could lose your line of dogs. Then they work on another set of dogs that throw good pups and so on. Now do they ever get bad pup? What do they do with them if they get them? Well go ask for yourself. Now is that the best way? I sure don't have the answers. I am fighting to save a dog right now that if I lose will hurt me bad. So maybe they have it right.

Well said Leon...........

Mr Whitten sorry I never left you any feed back on old Jack! Shotgun 66 said it all! Jack might have made a dog if put in the hands of a more seasoned handler! Poor old boy wasnt He was placed with an owner that can see faults in his own pack and try to get use outta ever animal in the yard. Some on here can't! Jack has become a vital part of our pack and finding hogs is not what he does. Mr. Whitten I'll put it this way if I never hunted Hogs again Ole Jack and my bulldogs are the only ones that would be in my yard. Mr. Whitten that is the Jack that is being discussed Y I have no Idea but good young Pic of MY DOG! By the way that sorry Help dog Jack usually rides in my back seat on the way to hunts!!!

   lol  thanks cujo and shotgun  , I most likely didn't do jack justice using him on cattle and keeping him healed in close so many months , his sister jill is a fair dog out striking hogs I gave her to my buddy mark , and I will still take ol jack back if the need arises  . the rest of that litter that I know about met with untimely deaths but were all fair dogs  . see ya  !

Well for me breed worth is something that doesn't happen over night in one good hunt.
I myself have to see them produce hogs by there self .I like to only take three dogs an put one bay dog
On the ground at a time .This let's me know who is getting it done .There is no other dog besides them. I am not trying to have twenty dogs on my yard. when the dog has proven its self to me it will take time to find something that is better or has to have some trait that would help in a breeding. I thank of it like this if your dog is bad ass an you won't to breed it an the dog that you breed to is better .Why would u not keep them all that's what I hope  I'm doing.

We should put these high standards on our self every one would be hard works kids would be perfect and wife's would never get mad and we would never be broke and no one would ever lose and we would all live at the end of the rain bow haha

lmao!

When a dog shows pork for years an stays alive doing it!  LIKE, If u hunt 100 times out the year an that 1 dog shows u 100 hogs within the year then he is doing his job ! Now just because a dog struck 20 or 30 hog that year is not a reason to breed!   This is just something i like to look at before breeding !

If I saw or new of a dog that found a hog a hundred times out of a hundred I would dip him in gold buy a space ship and fly around the universe

 That was not a jk yes 100 hogs in a year out of 100 hunt!  100 hogs is nothing!

true story!!

funny guys lol..

That's crazy bro

When yur self tells u its a good dog and it meets all the standards or one of the old timers tell u its a good dog or if the blood line produces good dogs sometimes u breed to keep it on the shelf for future crossing

I say bred what you like you the one that has to feed them. All good hog dogs will not be producers and all producers will not be good hog dogs but it is nice when they are both. And if you catch 100 hogs in 100 hunts you are not hunting in the piney woods of south Louisiana!!!

I would bet my pay check you want catch a 100% of the time where I hunt I've never seen it or herd of it around my neck of the woods

Of course you boys can...this is the internet...remember ;D

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I think y'all are reading ole muddogkennels post wrong...  The guy never said he caught a hog every time out (100%), he said if he hunted 100 times throughout a year the dog could strike 100 hogs. My guess is several fellas from this site could claim that (not me tho). The dog might strike 5 hogs in one hunt, and strike out the next 2 hunts... 

If we hunted 100 times we would catch more then a 100 hogs I guess for Yall that hunt and only catch one hog a hunt that is hard for y'all to understand but there a people on this site that catch 10 to 20 hogs on some hunts prolly even more then that on a contest weekend we catch around 50 and to be honest prolly 75 percent of the people on this site don't even hunt 100 times a yr

Damn... it must be nice to hunt all these hog farms.

it is nice you should try it some time instand of running hogs throw the piney woods yall should start catching them.

I've hunted plenty of hog farms over the years. While it's fun, I enjoy watching dogs work where hogs are scarce and run like hell.

You're more than welcome to come out and show me how to catch 10 or 20 a hunt.

X2 id like to see that also.

dont want to get in a pissing contest with anyone i have been to east texas a few times and caught 8 or 9 hogs on a couple of hunts i am saying it is possible to catch well over a 100 hogs in 100 hunts we catch over 100 hogs down here in a couple of mths

I'd love to have y'all come over here to the marsh with y'alls dogs and hunt 100 times and catch more than 100 hogs.

It all boils down to WHERE you hunt, the type of terrain you hunt, the type of dogs you run, and if it's an area that's pressured a lot or not where the hogs adapt to hearing dogs and running like holy hell.

I've had dry runs. Doesn't mean my dogs suck. Sometimes the hogs just aren't there.

Of course if you hunt high fence areas, and ranched where there's hog infestations like roaches....you're gonna get on quite a few (or at least I'd hope so.)

While I'm sure it's fun to take home 10-20 per hunt, or 50-75 or whatever, I personally like the challenge of where and how we hunt. The dogs have to work a lot harder as well, which makes me even more proud when we get to drag aeven just couple out the swamp.

if i didnt have the palces that i do i would be saying the same things you all are saying.

Little story I was told by a nut case when I was in the army 24 yrs ago. This guy roster number 321 told me how the japs in ww 2 sent bombs on weather balloons to bomb west coast city's it sounded really stupid but yrs later I seem it on the history channel so go figure but not all tall story are likely to be true I would had beleaved you dated a movie star more beleavable lol

lmao

  Yes good spots spoil hunter ..lol because i hunted 2 of my places this weekend an the 1st spot i can hunt all day on hogs an the second spot i hunted was so thick with briars it turned into a hard hunt so i felt i got spoiled for pine trees!  :)  see I do hunt louisiana from lower south around houma, la  to winnfield,la an i know it's best to cold cut dogs in on races in Louisiana an a rcd or 1 catchy dog added to a pack helps shut them runners down.. 

Judge peel just because u can't catch many hogs doesn't mean it can't be done

Red, it used to be like that around here. It was nothing to go catch 4 to 6 hogs in a few hours and go home... I'm afraid those days are long gone.

Enjoy it while you can.

I can say I know where red79 is coming from as does Mike and several others. I won't speak for everybody else, but I know when I get to spot where hogs are plenty and dogs are hot, I'm gonna catch a sounder, on the other hand, most of the spots I currently have are hunted out and most people who've run them won't strike the first hog.

What i mean is, y'all are both right for Pete's sake.  ;)

I'm just as happy going run a hog for four or five hours and catch it then I would to ride around and catch 20 on one hunt. To me as this is only my opinion it takes a better dog to run one for several hours than to have a dog and ride around and see a hog and turn them on it and they catch it 100 yards later and repeat til you get tired and go home not much good dog work in that. But to each his own

Hey bubba we catch as many as we don't catch and and put as many on the back of the truck as we don't. But I can say this with honesty it's all talk on the Internet what if I said I won a hundred hands of poker out of a hundred to a gambler he would giggle so when you say that on here when every one on this sit hunts and I been hunting since the 70 ds I can say you are asking to be joked on. My dogs ain't nothing fancy but we can hunt em and see what's up let the chips fall where they may. I can say if we drop them ten times you would b god of the hog dog world if you got ten for ten jmo

I never said I catch every hog i run are that I don't have a dry run but when I go hunting most of the time I catch more then one hog my dogs r not the best and I am lucky to get to hunt some land that most people dream about and if you would like To run them we can but when we do I want you to be at every bay and I promise at the end of the day u will be tellen me don't  worry about the hog catch ur strike dogs!!! ( if we are hunting on my places )

I can see catching 3-5 hogs a hunt in good country......we've done it a few times.

But to log 100 hogs in 2 months......you'd still need to hunt 3 times a week and average a little better than 4 hogs a hunt with NO dry runs. Thats assuming you have Plenty of dogs for back up to replace the ones that get cut and are out for a week or more.

That's a pretty tall order.

I guess if you can hunt 4-5 times a week it would make the numbers more manageable.

Well I have to leash my dogs up to cuz they won't stop if there is pigs out there just as most people that have average dogs I have caught 3 or more hogs many times and I have missed many in a roll to I guess I need to learn how to hunt I guess I ain't doing it right if I can't get 32 hogs in 3 hunts lol but hey I do have a dog that can read and wright hell he can drive the truck one time he went to town and got grociers for my wife then bayed up 73 hogs at Walmart be fore he ran for congress lol but we do ok

Sounds like ur dog is smarter then you

Well he probly is but at least I ain't the one breathing heavy

dang I need to borrow your dog I have a place that I have to get over 500 in two weeks you think your dog can handle that? No room for not catching 20-30 a hunt!

Shoot yea tc I will pick y'all up in my space ship we can eat rain bow stew and drink some free bubalub before we drop off those golden dogs magical leprechauns lol

Y'all 2 need to hunt together cuz y'all don't know number 2 anyways y'all make a perfect pair

So if some one doesn't agree with you or chuckles at something you say we are full of number 2 your ego must be as high as your mythical hog numbers lol and I do know tc very well good people well I guess this forum is like a box of chocolates you never know what you going to get ha ha

lol lol funny fouls i can't stop laughing!!!  lol ok  ...    Well within 3 months with 1 dry run my total with hogs caught with dogs is 41 by tomorrow it should be up a few then Saturday I have guided hunts morning an after noon an Sunday I'm running my pups so my hog # climbs fast!   The dry run was when my dogs got cut up and down from the big hog that's on a hit list!!    The #s has a lot to do with hunting spots!   I have never hunted in a high fence or pig farm but like mike an others said when You have good dogs and your on a sounder its as many as u want to take!  

Hahahaha  ;D y'all have me lmao over here!

 but its all in good fun hey mud dog I don't keep totals on hogs we catch but I know you can rack them up when dogs are hot and your in the pigs but when you make statements on here about what you can do be ready to be called out or chuckled at but the next time you catch a whole sounder make sure to video and get pics so you can right a instruction manual I would be first to buy it 

High fences are some of the hardest to hunt from my experience.
   I thought the thread was full of crap pages ago. Some went full bs.

Well I'm looking for a super dog that can find, stop, flip and tie a hog and after that's done come get the truck and load everything up. With a dog like that I know I can catch hundreds... Anybody have one? What about you judge I know you have some of them dogs

I would sale em but then I have to get out of the truck and I don't like to do that ha ha

Pump the brakes hotshot, no need to for all that.

Maybe it's just me....but I hunt with my dogs for fun, for the experience, for the feeling of how proud I am to feed them b*stards when they have one bayed solid....(and the meat on the freezer of course.)

Even on the dry runs, I'm proud of 'em......even when they give it their all and try to shut down a runner and lose him, I'm proud....

Even when I get back in the truck and we're on our way home with no pig in the back, I'm still happy as a clam to have been priveledged enough to have gone out and been able to enjoy the experience with my dogs....just as much as when we have 2 or 3 pigs in the bed.

It's fun to brag sometimes of course, and to be proud of our dogs, but all to often I see folks get on the dry sarcasm kick about how they're catching 87 hogs a month, blah blah blah.....and insinuating that us other folks just must not have good dogs or whatever if we're not pulling the same. That kind of crap puts a bad taste in everyone's mouth, and it does get annoying. I don't think it's just the fisherman that tell tall tales anymore! lmao. I usually just laugh and click right out of a thread that starts to sway that direction, but I'm in a poetic mood this morning so I decided to throw my worthless .02 in here, haha.

Anyhow, happy hunting y'all!

let'm go you raghead. this is getting good. he will step on his twig 1 day and something on here will get thrown back. tc and peel can handle it, and I think peel is doing a good job of it. peel don't need no help from a anti-Christian muslim. im just joking with ya Justin. I would hate for u to scream to ala and cut my head off. LOL

Well said fellas I guess some of us know what's what's but if any one wants to fly in my space ship holler at hell we can go to Uranus

hahahahaha

Yea u better watch out, just washed my turban and sharpened my sword, durka durka jihad durka

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U aint gettin anywhere near myanus!!!!

You do realize that is a planet in the solar system not your 4 point of contact ha ha

Yaw r gettin amusing.

Unless he wants a spaceship going up there...I mean if that's his thing hahaha

well yaw know how them rag heads are. women are for breeding, men are for, well yaw get the point.

Lol ya'll go to hell!!!!

im recruiting for it, you wanna join and help take over

I know for some people that cant see something with their own two eyes then they dont believe it.  It is a fact that many hogs can be caught.  I have hunted with red off and on for a few years now and we pretty much alwzys cafch at least 4-6 hogs every hunt.  Of course not every time but if you catch 6 in one hunt then that makes up for 5 more hunt if you are figuring 100 hogs in 100 hunts.  Its really not that difficult and I don't know what all the fuss is about.

I thought he caught 20-30 a hunt? oh wait I forgot I don't know nothing...

I know you've already "picked a side" but there are still a few folks out there who Can do what y'all are making fun of.

Why can't anybody let bygones be bygones on here?

catch 20-30 a hunt? im just picking and having fun. Nobody was really getting mad or making fun here...well at least I didn't think anybody was really getting mad lol

 Best hunt I have been on was 15 hogs in a little over two hours  we never lost sight of the truck.  We left because we were tired and cold.  We left with hogs still visible.
  Hunted down near Houston and caught  12 in a few hours. We could of kept catching them but why after that many.
  Places dictate high numbers more so then dog ability. The places where a dog shines is where there are just a few hogs.

Yep, notice cantexduck said in a few hours.

I got to go with CWard to a place in Marlin Tx early this year and those dogs of his had a wad of hogs in no time, can't remember if we had 11 or 13 that day but it was a mess of them and we finished and rode into town and were in line for lunch by 11:30 or so. Very next day him and TShelly and BigE caught another 10 or better in the same timeframe. If they'd have wanted to work hard at it all day (like they do in competitions!!) there's no telling how many they'd have come out with!

If a fella haves the place, the dogs and the work ethic, Its achievable.

If I ever hunt a tournament I'd love to catch that many but as it is.....most of the time I'm happy shutting it down at 3, lol

Wasn't that the high fence place ? If so that is even more impressive. I have the most running hogs in a high fence. Seems they run right to the hole in the fence.

Yup, sure was

Man I need to hunt those spots your talking about man I could catch at least 27 in 3 hrs lol but for real at least 27 the best hunt I ever had was in junction tx shot a Limit of dove then shot a gabbler then a buck then a doe then another doe then took the heart and caught a 57 lb blue cat the unloaded the dogs got 12 monster hogs and won 50 bucks on a scratch off and if you don't beleave me ask David bowlenings blooming grove tx or genius book of records

  Are you an adult ?

Are you am adult ?

Why so angry so what you are saying is that we should believe your story but you won't believe any one else is story ??? And when did age have any thing to do with being a good hunter it's all just talk on a web page really but we can hook up and put it to the test I alway rember what a first sg told me when I was getting ready to go to rip its hard to be hard words I live by bro death befor dishonor 

Oh ya I forgot to say this is easy if your at the right spot

So when has a dog earned the right to breed to you?? ANYBODY LMAO!!!!!

When ever I want to ha ha

When I first signed up to ETHD we caught over a 100 by the end of February in under 15 hunts....

This year we haven't hunted since May and we almost broke 300 in hunting maybe 2-3 times a week

Just saying it can be done

I agree with you CANTEXDUCK... I'm going to get you a black dog this next litter brother so you can finally have something breed worthy :)

I'm with Mikes statement. If you want to breed and cull for yourself, great! To sell unproven crosses like most ppl do is what irritates me.

TRUST me, you will know when your dogs are breed worthy; people will knock on your door and ask to breed their best dog to anyone one of your males or females when you got the right stuff. Until then keep at it

I'm your num 1 fan :) I forgot how much fun internet hog hunting was lol rev Freak is taking up too much of my time!!

Judge and everyone else who skipped out on statistics class,


First of all the genius who made the poker analogy needs to reconsider his stance. In the game of poker you can only win one time per game. So the odds of winning 100 poker hands out of 100 games is very slim.
Now in the hog hunting game you can kill multiple hogs per hunt. So you need to take your poker analogy and apologize for wasting everyone's time.
Now if you would like to use a game analogy use a dice. Now I know what's going to be said "there is no zero on a dice". So for our purposes 6 on the dice will be our zero.
So I want you to role the dice 100 times. The probability of going over 100 is very high.

Example:

1st roll- 2
2nd roll- 4
3rd roll- 0
4th roll- 2
5th roll- 1
6th roll- 5
7th roll- 0
8th roll- 0
9th roll- 1
10th roll- 3

So these 10 rolls represent 10 hunts. So according to what's been said by people on this thread is that it is impossible to kill 100 hogs in 100 hunts. So I can't kill ten hogs in ten hunts according to theory of the mathematical geniuses on this thread.

So l rolled the dice ten times and and got 18 as a total. I even had three dry runs and still beat the target goal.


Hog hunting is all a game of chance. Will the hogs be there,will I catch one, will I catch eight or will I catch zero.
It's just like rolling a dice.

Now if you don't have hogs where you hunt that your own fault. I suggest you go where the hogs are..
Everything I wrote is based on having hogs on your places.

Red79 has some good dogs and great places to hunt. Every time we hunt with him we get 3-6 hogs inside a couple hours.
They're not hog farms and high fences. Just free range places.

Have a great day!

 you must be an advance calculus professor. you should be working for nasa,

No NASA for me. It is just a little bit of thought goes a long way.

If only is u had the spots!!    If i had that many dry runs as your dice i wouldn't have a pay check every week!   If u think hunting with your dogs are like rolling dice sounds like u need better dogs!  oh well that's your feed bill!

So If I hunt 2/3 times a week for two months, it is possible to catch 200 hogs!

 I am tired of y'all internet hog hunters if u can't catch 100 hogs out of 100 hunts u should cull ur pack and start over bottom line is they r not gettin it done

Biggest crock of BS I've ever heard...there ain't no substitute for HOG DOGS!

There's no chance, no excuses, and no BS for guys who consistently do it. It's hog hunting it aint much calculus, statistics, or trigonometry, it's just hog hunting.

Muddog,

Did you read what I wrote? Did you comprehend anything out of what I wrote?
This was in response to 100 hogs in 100 hunts.
Not about your little pay checks and the kibbles and bits you feed.
Go back and read previous parts of the thread so you understand what I am saying.

Aw, come on ben. Math is always involved. 1 bay dog and 1 catch dog equals 2 dogs.   ;D it mite even mean 1 hog, unless its a hog farm n them it would mean u got real dogs bc u caught 20 hogs at once, then u only gotta hunt 5x for the magical number of 100 hogs. Just a roll of the dice  ;D

You guys keep it coming...once again internet hog hunting has made my day ;D

Ba iv

So you are telling me every time you go hunting you know exactly how many hogs your going to kill.
Everybody BA IV CAN SEE THE FUTURE.

Haha

I'm sorry that all went over your head buddy.

using your dice rolling and the figures you provided, muddog is referring that 1/3 of your 10 rolls were a waist of fuel and time, if you take the other times of catching just 1 hog, now your success is only 50% of the time it was a hunt worth staying at hm, or going hunting. your analogy aint no better than the analogy you are saying sucked. 

 hey ben, we got us an MIT, Harvard and Yale professor all wrapped up in. we aint smart, cause thing go over us.  ;D

Hey hog jock your ego must be higher than those mythical hog numbers I never said you can't catch more than a few hogs on a hunt he said show him a hundred hogs on a hundred hunts. And since NASA works for you know where to find me and my space ship. That statement would sugest that he will alway strike no matter what

Sounds like he needs to go back a hand of poker is a game at least it was 25 it's ago

I don't know when the last time you looked at a dice knuckle head ain't got a 0 on them ha ha  rolleyes

nasa has a telescope big enuf to see Uranus, bout like them astronomical rolls.  ;D u got 1 of the magic carpets too? I mite need to borrow it, gotta fly to vegas and play the crap tables.

Hey Neil Armstrong where you go did mommie call you in 

  :D  :D  :D

Hey hog jock you should team up with those leprechaun and make a documentary about how hog hunting is done I will buy the DVD

There can't even be a decent thread anymore without having to sift through 5 pages of worthless posts.

Hey Charles and judge just a question for y'all how many times a week do y'all hunt?

Judge,

Can you read?
Read my comment again and see that the six was replaced as a zero.
Look it may seem like I'm a Harvard grad , really it's your 4th grade education that's slowing this down.
It's easy to catch 100 hogs in 100 hunts.

Spaceships and magic carpets. That sh#! is weak.


Charles,

When the hell were we talking about fuel,money or if it was worth going on a hunt.
If BAIV did not understand what we were talking about, then don't say anything.
100 hogs 100 hunts

I'm sorry if simple logic is just to hard for you to understand.
Judge shouldn't you be greeting the people at the Wal -Mart entrance. Get back to work.

Money came into the play when u opened ur blowhole here. Muddog,


Not about your little pay checks and the kibbles and bits you feed.

I got crs but it as bad as urs.

Its an open forum, i'll say it is i choose. U come on here runnin ur rooster holster and dont expect return fire, u wrong. if he didnt understand it, 2 heads are better than 1, but with ur supper high genius iq, even 2 aint enuf.

Did you REALLY come back on this post to just restart something that we were all done messing around about? Must be slow at the Harvard today.

Charles,

Sorry did not understand what you are trying to say to me.
Give it another shot rooster holster!! Lol

You should change your screen name to rooster holster that would be cute

Hey red I hunt 2 or 3 times a week in the winter I will run few more times.                                                         Hey hog jock yes I passed 4 th grade I guess us guy over 25 can't be as logical as you young guns I can tell your right off the play ground but like I said earlier its just talk on the Internet we can always hook up and see what's up let the numbers say what they say

 im sorry basic logic is above your comprehension. if you don't understand rooster holder, google the name for 2 roosters fighting, u mite understand it. i think there is a sesame street website u mite try before coming back, big bird and cookie monster explains the small things for even 3yo kids to understand.

YOU and only you are what gives great sites like this a bad name... It's obvious you're rude, full of $hit, and arrogant, and those things just don't mix well.

Whats so stupid about you, Mr.Red79 & Mr.Hogjock is that the argument started over someone saying that in 100 hunts you catch 100 hogs AS IN YOU GET ONE HOG EACH TIME you hunt. NOT as in you go 100 times, get 1 on the first hunt, 12 on the second, dry run on the third, and a few on the forth and then total up 100 in the end.... This was saying that you go 100 times in a row and EVERY hunt you have you catch something. So whos the idiot for starting the "oh I get over 100 hogs in 100 hunts" when that's not was even being said?

Some of y'all are starting to sound like a bunch of school kids.

Get back on track and quit talking to each other like idiots or we'll have us a house cleaning.

I don't plan on let any of my dogs to breed right now. I no where there are better dog that has proven to trow good dogs I I think it would be smarted to get pups from them.

Plus if you find someone to give you good pups you wont have to worry about having 12 little ones going crazy around your own yard lol  >:D

Cscott that sounds like a good plan

Well on the topic of when they should have the right to breed I got a few that if the keep on track by next yr they will be ready to breed if they do the job and reach your personal bar I don't see you can't like some one said its your feed bill

Tony ,
I will keep a kennel open. Good luck on getting that freak.
Mike

  yes charles x2 lol ..  kibbles an bits as dog food lol  sportmix is kibbles..lol little pay check lol..  I'm just going to let u believe what u want!