EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Any one only run a gritty pack of curs, without a bulldog?

Me and my dad's dogs are all rough just a few will have a good size pig caught but we always take one or two bulldogs just in case

Get you a pair of catching curs to replace bulldogs. 

Before 93..... never heard of using a bulldog.  Curs did it all. 

With all these fighting lines mixed up with everything ....I will not own a pit on the place....most dont have any sense.

  I ran the first 7 years with just curs , didn't need a bulldog .

I dont need a bulldog all my dogs canand have beena lead in

All I run are curs. Just seeing who else hunted this way

I only have two female curs in work at the moment.  Caught nine pigs with those two dogs last saturday.  I did shoot one boar.  No need for a "catch dog" as you guys use them.  357 eats less than a bulldog...

^Yessir I agree. I run what I consider "looser" dogs. Just one or two or even three they usually won't catch. When I run 5 or 6 on the ground at a time there isn't much they won't at least try to catch. What they can't/won't I have a .44 bulldog that never misses.

that's all I run, I do have 1 that's half bulldog and a son off her.  but my curs will bay a bad one alon, two there they are going to catch it.  anything 150ish or under one dog alone will catch.

I like it guys!!!!

I have a bulldog now but until recently all I had was ridge/pit and 2 redbone curs and a catahoula. All of them on the ground and let them hammer till it squels.


Shotgun
Arkansas

Do not agree with this. Bulldogs are some of the smartest dogs I have seen.

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Witnessed a few.......and I do mean very few that kept it together. But put stress or excitement on them......tend to loose their composer.

When friends of ours start to test one out... Call it taking them to their stupid place to see the actual demeanor.  Let the dog get extremely excited and wait for the side effects....ie......biting at other dogs nearby...catching wildly at anything in range, loss of self control all together. Witnessed it to many times for any type of comfort for me to own or operate one around kids, cows and family.

I know their are some die hard pit guys that will defend them to the end....no problem...completely understand .....but judgement around here is based on eyes....not ears.
Same goes for curs and any other breeds as well. But never have and never will own a full blood pit (Especially fighting bred)

As far as ability to suit the job of catchdogs......excellent ....but not worth the possible and probable repercussions.

Keep it simple .......An old beat up, Yeller cur dog.....that does it all.  LOL

Jmo for sake of conversation.  ^-^

I think its all on how they are raised and tended to. But JMO

Everyone has their own opinion on the whole pit thing, I've been around plenty that I would have on my yard. But I still haven't come across one male pit that wouldn't try to fight one of my yella dogs. Not saying that it won't happen ofcourse, but IMO the ones I have seen seem to be more worried about fighting another dog then anything else. I guess it's because I'm a die hard cur only kinda guy lol but I think I rather keep my catchy cur dogs then worry about breaking up dog fights every other blink of the eye. ONLY MY OPINION

Ive had more dog fights out of my curs then I ever had out of my pits. Ive seen more curs start crap and asked for more then they could handle. The apbt is in it to win it. Just like any other bulldog breed. I love my curs, I love them rough. But ill always have a pit or two around.  I've got an old yella gyp that you can bet your right nut on she's gonna be the first to start chit if she takes notion to do so.

They start dog fights, but are cur dogs know for attacking humans? I'm not against pits but they are known for snapping and attacking humans. I know several people that had them indoors and was the best dog ever then one day they turn on them.

Those people that owned them for some time and then got attacked by them were never the alpha in the mix. They shouldn't own a poodle let alone a bulldog.

My rule of thumb is that a dog should be smarter than the food it eats...heavy bred "bull" dgs are tough enought no question no brains.

Cur dogs only. A lot of the places we hunt won't let a bulldog on the place. I don't have nothing against them. I love a good pit that can wind & trail like a cur. ;)

if you never been bit or had a dog offer to bite you haven't fooled with many dogs. Ain't no excuse for it doesn't matter what the breed is. When on a hog we see our dogs at there most intense moments, were all aware of what our dogs really could do to us if they took mind to do so. Some of my most well behaved dogs after the catch was my apbt, put a handle on them! There not a dog that's made to be chained kenneled or for gotten about. And as far as being a house dog that turned I've seen every other breed do it just as well. Dogs are individuals just like people. Just cause joe blow went off the deepend doesn't mean jimmy jack is gonna do it to. I've seen a cpl curs that would rather chew you a new rather then look at u.

Never used a straight vest-up, lead-in type catch dog. Never really would have matched up with the dogs we used to run. Have hunted with a couple of groups of hunters that did use them and will say that if I'm walking into a hog caught in a bad spot or I'm alone on a big place, I would feel much better about my situation with something like a Pit or AB bulldog or Dogo, or Pogo, or Bogo or Mal, or whatever the hell the next "Super Catch Dog" will be, than just straight curs. Have seen curs and cur crosses stop some big Wooly Bullys plenty of times but you cant deny, those dogs are bred to find, run, and bay.  Yes there were thousands and thousands of hogs caught before catchdogs and yes bull dogs are EXTREMELY SUSCEPTIBLE to picking up bad habits. But a cur dog's mind and a pit's mind work different. Guess what I mean is I never had any use for a catch dog but sure not going to bash their purpose. Im sure there's some Damn fine strike dogs that are still alive today because some big blocky headed bag of quick-crete with legs did its job.

Bbb,, i like your post.

I did for years. I started running a bulldog for backup