EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Does choking a bulldog discourage them from catching? Cause I can get my bulldogs off a hog but ever know in then she won't get off so I choke her collar will that affect her catching iny

prolly will get moved to hog dogs or general..... but id say save your time and energy and use a break stick.

I know some guys that do it and I have never seen it affect them any. That being said I am a 100% believer in and totally agree in using a break stick.

cut the ear off unless your gonna take it out live works great for me

We choke all ours off and that's how we always done it and as far as I know it don't affect them any. They probably don't even know it because they seem to be in their own world during this time anyway

To each their own, but the safest fastest most effective way to break a bulldog off anything is with a break stick.

Well I always just stick my fingers n there nose n about 10 secs later they try to breath threw there mouth n I pull them off

What??? That's a definite new one on me.

I choke mine off, and before long, the slightest pressure pulling on the collar will make them come loose.

I use to have a bulldog named Mac it was no fast effective way to break him off. I should of named him jaws but I didn't know he was gonna be like that when i named him as a pup. It was all one man could do to break him off with a break stick or without it didn't matter 90% of the time we would have to wait til he almost passed out before he would let go I've been around my share of bulldogs and haven't seen one yet that had the bite he had. It's hard to choke them off with a 4 in cut collar but with just one of them regular dayglow collars it's just as effective to choke them off.

Ya just grab there collar or vest n put the other hands 2 fingers in there no n before long dogs off if you are pulling them away

I use a break stick while giving them the command caught hog. Over time they learn to release the hog on command of caught hog. Not into choking or hitting the dog to teach him something.

Like I said, to each their own, BUT......

I will never understand why people choke (which CAN cause damage over time to your dog, both physically and mentally), or hit their CD's over the head to break them off a hog, when they are doing something you WANT them to do, that they are SUPPOSED to do. If one knows (NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE) how to properly manipulate a break stick, you can indeed break a bulldog off effectively. I have broken off some VERY powerful hard biters, with bi lateral carpal tunnel in my hands/wrists, with a break stick. No choking or punching needed. All the time it takes to choke a dog to where he's about to sleep to let go, he could have been broken off with a break stick multiple times over.

I do not tell people what to do or what not to do with their dogs, but this is just how I feel/handle mine.

If you're trying to leave the pig intact then it doesn't make sense to use any method other than a break stick. In my humble opinion that is.

Why would you hit the dog to get it off? Take a pretty big dipnumber 2 to think that's the best approach. (That opinion isn't very humble...)

How long does it take to choke a pit bull dog to sleep? It only takes like seven seconds to use a break stick and there's no threat of hurting the dog at all.

That being said is brain cell loss really a big issue when dealing with a pit bull? Not really.

It's like the vest issue on bulldogs, different strokes for different folks.

Nobody is talking about choking em til they pass out.  I go to the woods to catch hogs and do it my way, I usually have only a pocket knife and a few pieces of tie rope.  Just the way I do it and everyone I hunt with does it.

Break sticks break teeth. Sooner or later no matter how careful you are it will happen.

Not if you know how to use one correctly...

^^This. Proper use over the past 15 years.....hard biting dogs, never ONCE have I broken/chipped a tooth on a dog. Now I've seen idiots trying to use metal pipes etc as break sticks and break dogs teeth....of course it'd happen then.

Well stay away from the teeth.
At the back of every dogs mouth God created a gap just perfect for a break stick.
You and your dogs are welcome.
If you need anymore help with anatomy or really anything else don't hesitate to ask.

Jimt3, do you have a smart a$$ reply for everything?

I guess all of us "dip$hits" should start taking notes because we've been doing it wrong all these years?

i know people that choke their dogs off, and it didnt affect them but im a 100% believer in a breakstick,  i have seen it before but id choose a breakstick.

No.


Yes.

I'm a firm believer that ignorance isn't a good excuse for stupidity. I was only calling the guys beating their dogs off pigs dipnumber 2s. Not the chokers.

Don't have such thin skin. Sticks and stones and all that right?

 HA.
No reason to beat a dog off the ear.

   I think a few on this thread are full of it. Catching hogs on the WWW is different then in the woods.

Jim, I don't have thin skin... but I also don't put up with too many smart a$$ replies like this on this forum.

Amen ma'am! I had a buddies friend hit one of my dogs to get him off a hog. I saw him do it and stopped doing what I was doing. I told him if he ever lays another hand on any of my dogs he wouldn't be leaving the woods we were hunting.

Well I guess I better keep that in mind.

One of my friends starting picking his catch dog up by the rear end until vertical over the hog and he just let's go of the ear.  New one for me, but works like a charm.

Im sorry your question got flipped all around to " the best way to break a bulldog" but to answer your original question I personally don't think choking them off hurts in no way I'm not saying take a 2x4 and pop her over the head ,and she will be good to go within 20 seconds of when you get her off and I bet next time you turn her loose to a hog she catches just like she did the last

I have mostly hunted with gritty strike dogs and now and then I would keep a bulldog or 2...but I tapped them gently on the head and kept pressure on the collar and repeated the word "break" until they turned loose...then petted them up pretty good...after a while they learn to let go without too much hassle...

I don't think it will make them stop catching. I do believe a break stick is a better idea. Or u could do like I do. I hunt farm ground and all hogs must die so I just stick the pig and once it stops moving they let go.


Shotgun
Arkansas

First of all never said I've broken a k9 and for those of you on here who have done it all and seen it all I truly admire you. I've hunted on and off for twenty years now and still learn something every time I hit the woods. I broke a molar using a stick once on one of the hardest biting dogs I've ever seen and swore Id never use one again. Accidents happen.

I just ask my dogs to let go and then they go sit down and relax :)

Hahaha, that is a great answer! I too would recommend a breaking stick and do what Taz mentioned earlier. JMHO

ive only seen one dog come out with broken teeth from a breakstick and that was because the guy with the breakstick was a moron, and he didnt know how to use it.

we break all our dogs off with a twist of the collar. Where do do some of you folks come up with choken one till the dog passed out? Cut off the air supply dog has to start trien to breath. It goes from trien to keep a bite to getting oxygen. A constant pull away from the hogs ear and a gasp for air and the dog is off. I've had more trouble trien to get a break stick in a dogs jaws, because they had a whole ear sucked in the mouth, I couldn't get a break stick in between them.  Different strokes for different folks. Ain't a right or wrong way. Its what works for you and your dogs.

We have "choked" or "pulled" our bulldogs off a hog plenty of times but it will hurt them in the long run. It will affect their breathing and throats. Using a break stick will definitely benefit you over the long run and it's a lot easier and quicker if you have a bulldog with some mouth..

agreed!

To each there own,i use a break stick,never had problems,have seen my dad take a stick and grab dog by tail and stick ,stick in dogs rear man the ole dog would let go then.

Lol wouldn't u open ur mouth if someone poked a stick in ur rear. That is just cracking me up.


Shotgun
Arkansas