EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Alright guys hear it is I turned my dogs loose Christmas morning on some national forest next to my lease dogs jumped a hog ran him threw the lease well my step cousin was on his stand and when my dogs crossed the pipeline he killed both of them he admitted to it and brought my collars out to me I have talked to the game warden and I can press charges against him and make him pay for my dogs but its the family I'm worried about I don't want to cause and termoil in my family over this but those two dogs have put more meat in my families mouth than my cousin could have ever dreamt of and I handled the situation. Calmly just for the families sake but now I'm short two of my best dogs and I have nothing to show for it but some hog jaws and some pictures what would y'all do in this situation

 hammer his butt to the wall. it sucks for his family, but he needs to learn a lesson, and it may need to be a hard lesson. if he was truly family, he wouldn't have shot the dogs in first place. is this the same lease you and I hunted back a year or so ago?

I'm sorry about your dogs... but why in the world would drop dogs in the national forest and a deer lease in the middle of deer season?

  I don't agree with anybody killing dogs but mike has a point . the woods are closed to me during the few months of deer season we can hog hunt the rest the year  . but regardless of family I would pursue financial restitution but through the family , I would leave the courts and government out of it  .

X2.
Very well said, was thinking the same but couldn't put it in words as good as halfbreed or Mike

Haven't ever been in this situation and hope I never am, so it is very hard to say what I would do. But I think the whole family thing would have flown off the handle and I would have smooth lost it for a hot minute. Unless the dogs were causing him harm, it ain't okay.

Did he know they were your dogs?  If so, then he did it out of meanness, and I'd hammer him for it.  If he didn't know they were yours, still mean, but not as bad. 

I hate to hear that Hunter. I don't know what I would do. Sorry for your loss.

Mike my grandpa is the lease holder and have permission to hunt the hogs during deer season on our lease and I knew the hogs were bedding there and knew where the dogs would jump them so I sent them that way every one on our lease knows that I run my dogs during deer season on our lease and yes Charles it was the same place me and you hunted mike my grandparents a very fond of us hog hunters ask Colby he has met them multiple times and always encourages us to hunt when ever we want on te lease the boy is no longer allowed on our lease but I want restitution for my dogs he said he would buy me new ones but I'm afraid he is thinking 200-400 dollars both dogs he killed were finished dogs you put them on the ground they hunt until pork is found or till they had covered every square inch of property they could

I'd press charges without a doubt. He needs to be held accountable for his actions, no matter who he is, period.

I'd get full restitution for both those dogs. That's a da*n shame.

Hunter, first off I hate hearing about your dogs, colby told me about em yesterday. I would deff. Press charges against him being as you had permission to be there however i dont think that you will  see the money money you feel they were worth (and thats not taking a jab at your dogs in any way, if my 2 best got shot i dont think id be compensated completely for them either) not tryin to be a downer, just tryin to be realistic.

I hate it for you, number 2ty deal all the way around man.

With all the the recent threads about dogs being shot there's no way in hell im hunting in the daylight during deer season ever again.....WAY to many good dogs being lost. Hell just last week a tracking dog was shot by a poacher on a private big game ranch while tracking a wounded animal.......... The deer woods are crazy these days.


If everything works out right i'll have 2 litters on the ground by march, i plan on keeping them but i'd be more than happy to send one northbound...... Nothing fancy just these same ol yella dogs you've seen.

Justin I sure appreciate the offer and a guy down hear just two weeks ago got a dog killed the same way except it wasn't on his lease guy said the dog tried to bite him but he didn't have any bite marks they pressed charges took him to court and they ended up getting 2500 for the dog not asking that just asking what I know they were worth nothing more its gonna be hard to get back to where I was but I can handle just gonna have to start feeding my young dogs more tracks

If the guy is old enough to hunt by himself, he is old enough to answer for his actions. Let the court decide the case, not your family.

Sorry for your loss

X2, let the court system smack his pee pee. he knew what he was doing and knew it was wrong, especially when he brought u the collars. he knew they were not stray dogs, nor being aggressive towards him, so he don't have a leg to stand, and hopefully the courts will take both legs from him

Sorry for your,hope you get justice.

If my cousin shot one of my dogs I'm just gonna say it wouldn't be any more family events going on. But it's no way id turn my dog loose during deer season at day time because deer hunters are crazy and get off on shooting a dog. If you turn a dog loose now and it crosses the line odds are someone is going to shoot it

All things considered, I WOULD: give him a bit to make the next move. If he comes by to see how to amend it, see what he proposes. If it's acceptable or even close agree to it, whip his ass, blow the tires off his truck and then tell him if you want he is forgiven.

But that's just me.  >:D

Rattle snakes bite things cuz that's what they do  nothing will change that and that's how people are to I usely smash there heads in

U can press charges and if he comes up with the money drop it. Letting a judge decide is as in biased as u will get. I don't like court no more than the next guy but at times that will cause far less problems than any other way.

If u go to him give him the price u think they are worth and he says ok. Well he only has a couple hundred right now but will get u more next month. Well dollar to a doughnut says u won't get another dime. The war will have begun.

Judge decides he owes X dollars. They put a lien on him. U file it with the court house and u will get ur money if he sells anything. U have to specify what u want the lean on. Beings the judge decided the amount ur hands are clean. Still gonna have trouble but will be less than other option.

Here's the thing. He shot the dogs not careing who's dogs they were. He removed the collars to hide the evidence. At that point he saw they were urs and was scared he would get caught. If it had been my name on them I would still be looking for the dead dogs and stolen collars.


Shotgun
Arkansas

Just curious, what was his explanation for shooting the dogs? Did he feel they were
messing his hunt up? Is he a dog killer? And if he said sorry, man I didn't know they were your dogs, well, that proves he really is a dog killer. He would have shot them dogs regardless of who they were for. If you can't even trust your own family where
you hunt, then I definitely would not turn loose anymore during deer season. Like
the others said it's just a bad situation.

Make a police report, so you have that on your side, i'd go with the advice of letting the law decide, but he EARNED whatever he gets from a judge, and here in Alabama, that would fall under a class C felony,, so here, if convicted, he'd lose his gun rights and he'd never be a threat to shoot a dog with a gun again, unless he were real stupid and wanted to risk jail time. But thats what he needs to be sure he dont ever put no one else through what he's put you through. Just a question, have you ever heard of other dogs being shot in the same vicinity? I doubt it was the first time he's shot dogs, i guess i feel like family or no, if someone shoots my dogs, it's MY responsability to put a stop to it so it dont happen again.

He needs to learn a lesson so he don't do it again. Doesn't matter who he is to me.

That really blows!  I ain't ur daddy so I ain't gonna tell ya what you did wrong, u know deer season brings out the retards!  With that being said.  I'm not one on involving the cops, but him losing some hunting licenses would b nice. As far as restitution, what's done is done and you can't get your dogs back.  If he isn't willing to give you what you want for the dogs get every penny you can and I'm with dropper

 

there is a big chance hunting dogs will be shot during deer season when they are running through a lease...

I have seen 3 different times where house dogs pack up and run deer during the daytime when the owners are off to work...Rottweiler's, labs, Dobermans, spitz,...usually purebreds...these dogs are running to catch otherwise they wouldn't be out there...I wonder how many deer these dogs eat that are not on a chain or in a kennel...

That's a tough call... I wouldn't side either way but simply hunting at night during deer season or not hunting at all would have solved this

If you hunt during daylight in deer season you had better make sure you dot all your i's and cross all your t's. I would have made sure everyone on the lease knew I was hunting that day, etc

How big of place were you hunting?