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Hey, had a scare at the vet and ended up having to neuter a good dog... They made us pay a pretty penny to get his testicles sent off and sampled... Basically if it was swine brucellosis then we would definitely want to euthanize because it could definitely be spread to humans... If it was canine brucellosis then it is almost no chance of humans getting it. Y'all have any experience with this? Want to know if I'm gonna haveta shoot... I mean euthanize...my best catch dog... He is probably my favorite dog in the kennel and a shore enough till death do us part catch dog... So I'm in a pickle..

Ive never delt with this i wish you the best

My understanding is people can get any kind of brucellosis: canine, bovine, swine....

I've got a bulldog that has it. He had a testicle swell up. After meds and no results vet removed the swollen testicle and sent it off and came back swine brucellosis. I wouldn't put your dog down if I were you.

Well the only reason I'd put him down is if I thought it would infect my other dogs. Says the females'll turn sterile and abort every litter they carry. I want to do whats best for my pack and it seems like there just isn't that much info on brucellosis

You don't have to put him down, I've had 5 dogs get it over the years. I'd find a new vet next time because you could have tried treating him first before getting him fixed... that should be the last resort.

X2 mike. I'd find new vet

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Not worried to much about a neutered catch dog. We had talked about having a litter. But it probably wouldn't have ever happened. Do y'all have any info on it spreading from dog to dog? That's my main concern. It seems like all the info online shows that it could spread even after the dog is neutered.

Swine brucellosis is not contagious dog to dog but canine brucellosis is highly contagious dog to dog and will ruin one for breeding. I had a dog with swine brucellosis and cured him with 90 days of doxycycline. I got several litters of pups off him afterwards with no problems to the females. I caught it early which may have made a difference.

Well they are fairly sure it's canine brucellosis... So I'm not sure if he's still contagious since he's now neutered.

All of mine had swine brucellosis... never dealt with canine.

I got swine brucellosis about 3 years ago and it's no fun at all.. I got all dogs checked and they all came back good. I was happy for that. Be safe out their I thought it couldn't happen to me but it did.. After I got cleared up with it I starting be more careful wearing gloves and such but than I just went back to my old ways.. It's out their !!!!!

What were the symptoms and how long to know before you had it? How long were the treatments before a cure?

Most every night had high fever like 103-104 and all my joints would hurt. That was the worse part. Doc couldn't figure out what was wrong so I was thinking one day about brucellosis and I asked doc to run test on that so he did and about 2 weeks later they called and said that is what it is. He said I was the second case in his 30+ year being a doc. A local vet got it as well. I had to take some pretty bad stuff for 6 months.. My joints still not all that great... But I'm better..

Man I'm sorry to hear that. I've heard swine brucellosis can flat make a man miserable. Lee talked to the vet and he only recommends euthanasia for swine brucellosis. He said its a very small chance that my catch dog can transfer it after he's neutered. He sure caught a nice hog this weekend. Didn't hurt him a bit not having anything between his legs lol

I have 2 friends with swine brucellosis. Not nice at all. Hope u can get ur dog cleared up.


Shotgun
Arkansas

Well, that now makes both my number one strike dog, and that catch dog that've died from swine brucellosis. Basically, the were pinned up together, and the vet, and we too, believe that we fed the dogs some pig guys of the pig that had it. Which ultimately included the reproductive organs which is what carries swine brucellosis. It killed the bmc gyp strike dog very fast after she showed symptoms and the catch dog it took months. We kept hunting him but all the sudden he hit the point of no return.

There isn't a lot online about swine brucellosis in dogs. So I'll share what I now know. We always thought that if a dog would eat it, then that meant it was good for dog food. But now we know that you should always wear gloves while gutting and handling pig entrails... And completely spray out the pig after you gut it. And before you feed it to dogs. We are taking that a step further and we will be gutting pigs with rubber gloves on and Kevlar over those. Then, never feeding the dogs the guts of the pigs.

Lost some dang good dogs because of our ignorance, and now we want y'all to know what we found. We're having our other dogs tested too, but it seems like non show symptoms so far... When we get tests back I'll let y'all know.

Dangit man I hate to hear that ! That's a crazy deal . Very sory about ur loss.

Very very sorry for your losses.  :(

If there's risks where I gotta wear gloves when cleaning hogs, my dogs will not be eating them. I've always kept to myself on that because I know ALOT of folks do feed their dogs hog meat....to each their own, I'll just never do it. Maybe I'm jaded from being a Vet Tech for many years and seeing a lot of dogs come in with pancreatitis from getting a hold of/eating some kind of pork. My doctors I worked under always said pork wasn't good for dogs, and I figure with all that schoolin, they must know something, lol. I know a lot of folks do this with no visible issues, but I never will. I'll stick to kibble and chicken every now and then. One time, on accident, we were cleaning a sow, and one of the dogs snatched up a piece of meat that fell on the ground and swallowed it before I could get it. He was shattin some green jelly type poo for about a month after that.  :-X

Wouldn't it be nice if a vaccine was created to protect our dogs from contracting Brucellosis??

Another thing to remember as well is whenever you breed off your yard, especially when it's to another working dog, it's a smart idea to have said dog tested for Brucellosis by a vet beforehand. It's fast and inexpensive. I know we can't help it with the hogs, but we can at least try to control it being transmitted from dog to dog.

I have heard if u freeze the meat for so long u can feed it does anyon know if this is true

Hope u have reached the end of the results from this. If I feed any part of a pig to my dogs it's usually the feet. I do let my dogs chew on them raw. Any other meat I boil first then mix with kibble and use the juice as gravy.

I personally hate to wear gloves and have a hard time remembering to put them on. It will probly cost me some day.


Shotgun
Arkansas

After reading this thread i'd have to agree with you shotgun, i dont believe ive ever worn gloves while skinnin a hog unless it was cold, hell saturday night I cleaned 2 and lit a cigarrette 1/2 way through, my ol lady about threw up when she saw me do it.....i didnt even realize what i had done until she started hollerin all kinds of nasty words at me lol. I will for sure be more aware of what im doing while cleaning them from here on out. That does not sound like anything i was to mess with!

Definitely was the same for me... The vet we talked to was pretty adamant about us protecting ourselves and all I could think of was how aggravating it would be to wear gloves while skinning and processing... But after the first dog died we immediately ordered kevlar gloves and picked up some surgeon gloves to wear underneath those... It was a pretty big wake up call for us. We definitely arent gonna stop doing the sport we love, we are just going to try to me more careful while we do it.

Absolutely. I hate that you had to loose 2 good dogs to open your and our eyes but im glad you shared with us. i knew it could hurt a dog pretty bad but i had no idea it could hurt humans that bad.

my uncle was infected with brucellosis when skinning out a nilgi and he just about died before they figured out what he had...went in to 2 hospitals and was there a while...

Yeah from what I hear if you catch it early in a human they will treat it without lasting affects. If you start having fever and or joint pain along with the fever then you should realize that could be what you have. It is also treatable in dogs. Canine Brucellosis cannot be cured in dogs.. But swine brucellosis, although it has never been actually cured from the blood in dogs, theoretically can be cured in dogs. But, thats theoretical of course. The vet that has been talking to us actually wants to use these dogs for research, which I'm all for. I think there just isn't enough knowledge about swine brucellosis in dogs and humans so any knowledge we can find out we need to share.