EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

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5 weeks old gunna be some rough dogs. Both parents from a long line of cow dogs. Sire is a 9 year old hog dog and momma is a real solid cow dog. All bite on both parents.

Is this the pups you had on the dog trade for a $1,000 dollars?

Wow.... I think your right Ben!! 

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He's obviously bumped his head some where :o  You got pit or 'bulldog" crossed into them

Who's cow dogs are they out of? Do they poop golden turds?

OK I see the white pups know, thats a little racist calling them crackers. LoL

Y'all have no clue who I am or what I have? I'm glad all of y'all are dog brainiacs. Y'all are from the great "country" of texas and more than likely none of y'all who just posted have ever seen a Florida cur nor know what they consist of.......I can go back 10 dogs on each side and there has not been one pit or bulldog bred in any of those litters. Yes I'm sure somewhere down the line there was a bulldog but heck that's where they get there bite from. Florida curs come in all different colors. If any of y'all internet hog hunters want to know something g about a Florida cracker dog just ask before you go telling the person what they have bred by looking at the color of a dog.

While i agree with you being a bit defensive about em talkin down on your dogs i gotta say choose your words wisely talkin about Texas, she's a big beautiful lady but she can be a real bitch when provoked ;)

And you are right, we dont know a thing about your dogs or what you've got. Care to fill us in on em? And pics always help!

I just asked if these were the same pups you had for sale on the dog trade...I know some of the dogs you own came from Mark, I've talked to Mark quite a bit about his dogs and know alil about alot of them.

You can sale the dogs for what you want, they belong to you, but don't get ruffled when people question it.  Especially when some of the dogs in their background come from guys who didn't charge a 1/4 of that for a pup.  

Junior... from what I gather ol Rooster79 may know a thing or two about those Florida curs. Plus, we have several Florida members on here that have been around them most, if not all their lives.

It's not just a bunch of Texas boys on here.

Yes I know a few of the Florida guys and most of the ones know what I have and have been on my yard. Some have dogs from me and I have dogs from some of them. I'm not a young punk with dogs, I only bred when I need dogs as my dogs are working dogs, not yard dogs that are called hog dogs or picture dogs. My dogs work for a living and I am a state hog contractor. I catch hogs every day I'm not at my regular job. I know what I have bred and what my dogs are. They are old school florida cracker cow/hog live for a purpose dogs. I don't breed for color I bred for working dogs! Ones that make the cut stay and the other find a whole. I don't breed for yellow or red or Black and Tan. I get reds, pied, white, yellow, Black and Tan, creme. There are several colors to these dogs. Y'all can think you know what I have bred but like I said y'all don't know me or what I got so if you want to ask questions I'm open to answering but don't go telling me what I got. I like hog hunting forums but not to sit here and bicker back and forth. I would get a Facebook if I wanted the drama

I'm not interested in a pup at all, the dogs you own are gonna be to rough, but I always enjoyed talking dogs with Mark...I considered buying one as a lead in catchdog.

How's the tarbaby gyp hunt?

She is a good rough medium range dog. She has been cut pretty bad several times and has only gotten better each time. She will go all day or night. No quit at all.

Well that escalated quickly lol. I know what a fl cur is.... Well I hope I do, I've been born & raised with them for 20 years! Hell I'm a fl cracker myself :) lol.

Nice looking pups Junior, do you have any pic's of the parents you would be willing to post?

I don't normally jump on people like that but damn, don't start telling me what I got in them. Yes they were the ones I posted on there and I specifically said I was possibly selling two. Not after this though I would rather shot the best two than to sell them for reasons just like this. Yes Mark sells his dogs cheaper than I listed mine for but these dogs are not of his blood. Not saying anything bad about his dogs at all because I could not have been luckier to have meet him and been able to purchase a dog from him. And she has turned out to be a pretty decent dog. These pups will be grabbing 5th gear by about 6months old and will be hell on wheels after that. For 10 generations back all have been solid cow dogs. This line of dogs has been with my family and close friends for four generations of our families. Most are cowboys, I on the other had chose to be a deputy sheriff. Day working when help was needed. A few of us would have some hog dogs out of every couple litters that our dad's and gran daddy's would let us have. We are a small town that use to be all agriculture and livestock but as we grow older it is being taken up by buildings. There are a select few dogs left out of these old lines of dogs and I just happen to have some of it left. They are not papered up dogs that all look the same. They  are just old school florida cracker curs. And for those that still think that there's is bulldog in this litter, than I guess you just know my dogs better than me and my family.

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Tusk, 9 years old and still working every day.

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That is a good looking dog right there Junior. Good luck with those pups.

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Tootsie

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Both parents together

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Tied up

Where in fl are you located?

Citrus, it's north central fl on the west coast

If the dogs are as he says then their worth a $1000. Think about how much you spend on dogs, feed and gas getting a decent dog. I've pretty much lost money on all the dogs I've sold or given away.

When someone asks a price for pups that some thinks is outrageous there are others that think the price is fair for what he is selling. I'll bet you that this guy gets a dozen inquiries by private message
within 48 hrs. of his post.  A lot of you guys with "jam" up dogs are always saying you don't sell pups.
You only give them to close friends. Well then if this guy's dogs are as exceptional as he says and them TRUE, old line Florida Curs are nearly impossible to come by, then here is a chance to get one. If you feel the price is too high then pass. If he can get that for his pups, does that make him a dog trader,
or a villain or less of a dog man than any one else on here? Folks pay thousands of dollars for 4 wheelers, utility vehicles, trailers, hundreds of dollars for dog boxes, cut gear, tracking equipment,
hundreds to thousands per month on feed, Some  spend 15 to 20,000 on a boat to hog hunt out of but are shocked when some one asks more than a couple hundred for a pup. Hell, folks on this very forum are importing dogs from other countries for thousands of dollars.  I'd buy one of them Florida pups he has for sale if they are what he says before I'd import a dog from another country. And if some one
buys one of these pups for the price he's asking does it make that person a fool, or stupid ? Just cause you won't pay that price doesn't mean no one will pay that price. There is really no need for comments like "Did this guy bump his head" or "Do them dogs poop golden turds". Hell, you interested in the pups then contact him . If not move on to another post.  Yea, he blew a gasket kind of quick but like he said, he didn't come here for all the drama.
 

 exactly !!!!!  been many a coon hound that went for 10,000.00 dollars or more just for the blood they were carrying .  why are hog dogs any different ?  good luck on your pups .

Your right, I apologize for the "golden turd" comment. I have been fortunate enough to never have to buy dogs, so was just shocked at the price. I can understand your example of hunters spending small fortune on equipment. Just ask my wife, I'm guilty of it also. With that, I feel that the dog is more valuable than the rest of that junk. So, yes they probably are worth that price to certain people. My bad for judging.

Yep lot of self rightchouis people out there who think they know it all who care what they think. I am with Jimco on this if you think different just move on lol he can sale his stuff for what ever he likes who are you the price regulator
 

I'm surprised the tar baby dog is rough. All the others are almost all bay. The 2 Mark kept are rough on the rear end but will bay 50# pigs.

some guy awhile back posted on here 2 rough Florida curs baying a hog in the woods...he called them rough...both dogs were baying just right for bay dogs to keep the hog in one spot...The dogs were not bay busters so that rules out "ROUGH"...I didn't get to see them work long but it seems that they were ready to put some teeth on the hog if it broke...that style is probably is the best for a bay dog...

I do have a question... How rough is the average cow dog?

I don't know much about cow dogs but a good cow dog shouldn't bust up the cows but should put enough teeth on one that wants to break and turn her back...

I reckon if you have a few straggler wild cows deep in the palmettoes then it would take a few chew the ears up on a cow type of cow dogs to make her/them pay attention and get them going in the right direction...

I reckon the price is fair for the pups if both parties agree and are happy with it...

In regards to price of pups, it just goes to the laws of economics. The pups are worth what somebody will pay for them, so if he sells both of them and gets 1000 for them then they were worth that if he does not then they weren't, something is only worth what somebody will pay for them. So either way I wish you the best with them as I am sure they will tun out to be good dogs like their parents!

I sure am glad the new guy ain't getting ganged up on anymore

Cajunl this is not a recent pic of her but this is Tarbaby. She was right around a year old in the picture. Ya I think she got more of J.J than she did of monkey. I am fine with that I like rough dogs and don't mind the staple bill. My neighbor is a vet so I get antibiotics on the house also. He keeps me in good shape. She is rough as a Cobb. If you don't get to the bay fast enough she and one other dog will have the hog killed big or little don't matter. If it's a runner expect to have its hole in the butt chewed out when u get to it. I have taken her and gathered cows and she does an average job but her heart is in the woods hunting hogs. She does not have an exceptional nose but makes up for it beating the bushes finding them. We are thick similar to the terrain in east texas.

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These are pups from my last litter sired by the same male dog and whelped by Tarbaby. I imagine the dog experts will tell me that I have hound dog in this litter.

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Two of these pups have already been killed from being so ruff.

More recent pics of the ones I raised out of that litter

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Pearl, 18 months old,by far the best pup I have ever raised! She has a phenomenal nose backed by a heart and guts

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Wesson, didn't make the cut as a hog dog. Not enough hunt but plenty of grit so was sent to a friend as a yard dog.

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Tot, sold at six months old to a man down south florida for a cow dog

How many of these dogs do you normally have on the ground at one time? Do you catch most of your hogs or shoot over the dogs just wondering about your methods with this style of dogs? Real nice looking animals. I personally like the litter you put hound in, LOL.

We don't use guns or knifes.... We take them out alive just hobbled up. We have multiple game ranches that buy our hogs. They buy everything we catch. Most buy 700-900 hogs a year and we feed them everything we catch. I'm quota'd 150 a year on my state contract and then what ever else we catch on our other properties. I have four cur dogs on my yard right now and this litter. Reason for having it. I will cull through them and keep the best 3 or 4. I also have deer hounds. I keep about 5-10 hounds year around.

That says a lot about them if you are able to sale them to game ranches. They wouldn't take hogs that were earless or chewed to pieces I wouldn't think. Good luck with them. I have an old hunting buddy out there by the name of Edgar Glisson, he's 78 years old. He's been hunting a pretty good while out there.

Name don't ring a bell where he from

Trying to remember town name, but it isn't too far from Georgia line. Northeastern part of the state.

They look good.

I have a cull dog from junior.  No regrets on buying her.  She is a cull for the dogs I run and is a risk out of buying any pup from ANY litter.  That being said, she is a great puppy trainer and an all around great dog.  Heck, she may be a jam up lead dog for someone, just doesn't fit with my pack.  No regrets on getting her. I didn't pay an outrageous amount but she wasn't a free dog.  She works for me on teaching pups the early steps in the woods which saves me a lot of headaches. 

I always told you I would buy her back from you though. Ain't nonsense in someone being in happy with a dog that doesn't perform.

You still got my phone number? I would like to talk and see what is wrong with the pup. I culled a few myself but that comes with raising pups.

Edgar lives in grand ridge fl


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Got to call bs buddy of mine bought his pup tot as a hog dog was told she would bay a hog but needed work if didn't like her money back no question dog wouldn't bay hog or even look at one called him he said we weren't giving her time but he take dog back but not give money back wouldn't even come get her she got culled yard dog for someone now had her 6 months still nothing he might have good line of dogs but he don't back it up

ruh roe shaggy! it just got real again........... anxious to see how this plays out

I wouldn't pay a grand for a fl cur. My dads best friend has been breeding some damn good dogs "fox bloodline" for 20 plus years. And he only sells them for 300. To each there own tho. Your dogs your price.

I can't afford a $1000 dog heck I can't afford to buy a $500 dog. Lol but if a man can get that for them more power to him. He just don't have to worry bout me calling.


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ONE THING I HATE THE MOST IS BEING CALLED A LIAR!!!! JOSHLVG...... LETS START WITH YOUR POST. I DONT REMEMBER IF I SPOKE TO YOU ON THE PHONE OR IF IT WAS YOUR BUDDY WHO I SPOKE TO? WHICH EVER ONE I SPOKE TO WAS THE PERSON THAT PURCHASED THE DOG. I SPOKE WITH HIM FOR NEARLY AN HOUR. TALKING HUNTING, DOGS AND DIFFERENT AREAS WE HUNT. WE SPOKE ABOUTH COW HUNTING SO MAYBE THAT WAS WHY I MISUDERSTOOD THE DOG GOING TO BE A COW DOG. MY BAD IF I SPOKE WRONG OF THE DOGS PURPOSE. A DIFFERENT BOY CAME TO MY HOUSE AND PICKED UP THE DOG FOR THE BOY THAT PURCHASED HER. I HAVE VIDEOS STILL OF TOT BAYING HOGS IN THE PEN AT MY HOUSE. I DONT KNOW WHAT YALL DID TO THE DOG BUT WHEN SHE LEFT HERE SHE WAS STARTED ON HOGS. THE BOY THAT PICKED HER UP FROM MY HOUSE CALLED ME A WEEK LATER AND SAID HE GOT SCREWED BY HIS BUDDY (THE BOY THAT I SPOKE TO ON THE PHONE AND PURCHASER OF THE PUP). THAT PERSON SAID THAT WHEN THEY GOT THE DOG BACK TO DADE CITY THE BOY THAT WAS BUYING THE DOG DID NOT WANT HER????? I NEVER UNDERSTOOD THAT. I WAS ASKED IF I WANTED THE DOG BACK AND I SAID NO BECAUSE I HAD A MALE AND A FEMALE THAT I KEPT OUT OF THE LITTER AND WAS PUTTING TIME INTO THEM. THAT PERSON SAID I COULD HAVE HER BACK FOR $150 AFTER I JUST SOLD THE DOG TO THEM A WEEK PRIOR FOR $250...... THINGS GOT FISHY THEN. I WAS CALLED A COUPLE DAYS LATER AND TOLD THAT I COULD HAVE THE DOG BACK FOR FREE IF I JUST CAME AND PICKED HER UP. I AGAIN TOLD THEM THAT I DID NOT NEED THE DOG AT THE TIME AND HE SHOULD KEEP IT SINCE HE DROVE TO MY HOUSE AND PICKED HER UP AND HIS BUDDY DIDNT WANT HER. THEY HAD ALREADY PAID ME FOR THE DOG AND I TOLD HIM TO GIVE HER TIME AND SHE SHOULD MAKE HIM A DOG. NOT ONCE WAS ANYTHING MENTIONED ABOUT THE DOG BEING A CULL OR NOT BAYING. HOW CAN YOU CALL SOMEONE A WEEK AFTER YOU PURCHASE A SIX MONTH OLD DOG AND TELL SOMEONE IT WAS A CULL???? I NEVER HEARD ANOTHER WORD ABOUT THE DOG UNTIL JUST NOW. SO LETS NOT TALK ABOUT SOMEONE NOT BACKING SOMETHING UP WHEN YOU HAVENT EVEN TOLD THE STORY RIGHT.

AND AS FAR AS THE PRICE OF MY PUPS AND SELLING THEM. I AM NO LONGER SELLING THEM BECAUSE OF REASONS JUST LIKE THIS. I HAVE TWO DOGS GOING TO TWO DIFFERNT GUYS. ONE WILL BE MORE THAN LIKELY COW HUNTED AND THE OTHER WILL BE HOG HUNTED. THAT RESOLVES THAT ISSUE. SECONDLY, I HAVE PURCHASED PUPPIES FOR $1000.00 BEFORE SO ITS NOT A BIG DEAL FOR ME TO SELL A PUPPY FOR $1000.00! I PURCHASED A YEAR AND HALF AGO FROM RANDY WRIGHT WHO HAS BRED DOGS FOR HOWEVER LONG. I DID A LOT OF READING ON HIS DOGS AND REALIZED THAT SOME HATED THEM AND SOME LOVED THEM.... I WANTED TO TRY ONE SO I GIVE $1000 FOR THAT PUP. SO IF FOLKS IN TEXAS CAN GET$1000 FOR A PUP THEN WHY CANT A GUY WITH A GOOD LINE OF DOGS IN FLORIDA GET $1000 FOR A PUP. AND DONT START ON THE PAPERS THING BECAUSE I DID NOT BUY THE PUP FOR THE PAPERS.... MINE ARE NOT PAPERED UP BUT ARE BRED RIGHT. NO MATTER WHAT YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE CULLS. WHEN A GUY TELLS YOU THEN NEVER PRODUCE A CULL, THEY ARE SO CAUGHT UP IN THEM SELVES THEY SHOULD BE CULLED. I ADMIT I HAVE CULLS AND THAT IS WHY WHEN TOYOTA TODD TOLD ME HIS DOG WASNT WORKING OUT FOR HIM I OFFERED TO BUY HER BACK ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT OCCASSIONS!! HE DID NOT WANT TO SELL HER AND HAS FOUND A PURPOSE FOR HER AND IN MY EYES THAT DOES NOT MAKE HER A CULL SHE JUST DOSENT FIT HIS STYLE OF HUNTING... NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS. EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT STYLE OF HUNTING.

ANY OTHER NEGATIVE NANCY'S WANT TO CHIME IN???

Damn fellas... y'all take this up on Facebook.

Junior... you want to sell a dog on here, put it on the dog trade.