Title: Dogo crosses? Post by: Dino1 on February 02, 2014, 08:51:24 am Has anyone crossed a Dogo with anything and gotten something good? I have seen ads for dogo/pit crosses and once in a while dogo/american bulldog crosses. Anyone seen any of these in action? If you go back far enough, the dogo has some Cordoba Fighting Dog blood in them. I have seen two photos of these Cordoba dogs and to some degree, they resemble American Bulldogs.
Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: Rocking Y on February 02, 2014, 09:04:46 am Mr. Douglas Mason crosses them with Catahoulas to get his Catdos, someone correct me if I'm wrong. I believe they run pretty good for him
Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: charles on February 02, 2014, 09:17:03 am My catdo is a more a house dog, but the last couple times iv took her hunting, she will roll out with the more experienced dogs. In the pen, she is more of a loose baying dog than catch
Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: cajunl on February 02, 2014, 09:45:58 am I have had purebred Dogo's and crosses with pits. I prefer the crosses. I use strictly lead in cd.
I prefer the 1/2 and 1/2 cross the best. But now I have 3/4 pit and 1/4 dogo. Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: dodgegirl on February 02, 2014, 01:08:23 pm The cordoba fighting dog had bull dog mixed up in it. That's why some had a bull dog look. I've thought about crossing our dogos to a sight hound just to add some more speed. But I've decided not to because I believe our dogos are pretty damn fast as it is. I don't see the need to cross a dogo to anything any more.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: Fixitlouie on February 02, 2014, 09:58:30 pm Mr. Douglas Mason crosses them with Catahoulas to get his Catdos, someone correct me if I'm wrong. I believe they run pretty good for him His old catch dog is a catdo. Seen him catch, impressive, but mr.Mason is the man and hunts daily.fixitlouie via tapatalk via droid Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: Rocking Y on February 03, 2014, 04:37:56 am Fixitlouie you are right on that and if I had half the knowledge he does I would be happy
Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: Jimt3 on February 03, 2014, 06:50:12 am I've been emailing mr mason a bit, he says in 16 years of crossing cats and dogos he's never had one that didn't catch. I put my name in the hat for a cross, figure if a mans been doing it that long successfully there's no sense in trying to recreate the wheel. I think if you're crossing a dogo with another BD (pit, American, or whatever) you're just breeding down. If you want a smaller cd than a dogo I'd just rescue a pit from the pound.
Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: b.b.b kennels on February 03, 2014, 10:00:07 am I've hunted with a few dogo crosses. The guy I started hog hunting with when I was just starting out had a half dogo half plott hound, he was a big, heavy boned sucker that was straight catch. Just seemed like he was always cut down though, didn't know how to get side by side and hold. He would take fresh tracks and was an awesome dog in grain fields, he liked to stick his nose up and work the wind. A friend of mine still has a Catdo he bought as a pup over 13 years ago. He's caught hundreds of hogs and still is able to go strike a hog and shut it down. Will bay if he's alone and its a big pig but have seen him catch some good boars by himself or with one or two help dogs. Excellent looking dog. I've got a half dogo 1/4 cat, 1/4 running walker that I've raised from a pup. Turned into more of a pet/guardian for my fiance but Thursday night he went over a mile from the house with my retired female and they jumped a group and ran for 4 hours catching pigs. Before I stopped hunting him he was striking hogs over cur dogs that were over twice his age. ON THE OTHER HAND I've seen ALOT of dogo crosses that were culls. Seen some that had Major health problems and lots that were structural wrecks. Just like anything else, Gotta use Sound breeding and common sense.
Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: dodgegirl on February 03, 2014, 11:01:45 am I've been emailing mr mason a bit, he says in 16 years of crossing cats and dogos he's never had one that didn't catch. I put my name in the hat for a cross, figure if a mans been doing it that long successfully there's no sense in trying to recreate the wheel. I think if you're crossing a dogo with another BD (pit, American, or whatever) you're just breeding down. If you want a smaller cd than a dogo I'd just rescue a pit from the pound. I agree with you 100% on the breeding down thing! Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: Bryant on February 03, 2014, 11:22:06 am I've got a 1/2 dogo 1/2 AB that will be 11 yrs old this year and is still catching. He was the pick of the litter from Ugly Dog Ranch's first cross.
Years ago when I was naive about bulldogs I used to think the dogo was what made him so good. I've since learned that perhaps she bred for the dogo size but crossed the AB so the pups would actually be good for something. :o I've learned through time that there are quality straight AB's out there that have all the qualities I like...just have to look for them. ...and before I get labeled a "Dogo Hater", I did actually raise two. One was an import (from supposed working lines) that had a folder of papers two inches thick. Both were some of the sorriest dogs I've ever thrown feed to. I do realize there are a few folks raising some quality Dogos's, but those are scarce as hens teeth. Title: Re: Post by: williamsld on February 05, 2014, 02:37:21 pm It really isn't breeding down, I love our dogos but all of our crosses to pits have turned out, most turn out about 80 pounds but we had one half pit half dogo that weighted 132 pounds he was built like a dogo just wider I think anything with dogo in it makes it better lol
But I do prefer a full blood dogo as a cd Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: T-Bob Parker on February 05, 2014, 02:55:58 pm i think pert near everybody ought to be hunting dogos and dogo crosses!! it sure would make catching hogs easier. ;)
Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: t.wilbanks on February 05, 2014, 03:20:39 pm Crazy how you can take the dogos who have a 3% turn out rate, breed it to something as sorry as a catahoula with a 12%, and get a 100% turn out rate.... >:D
Let the good times roll!!!! :D Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: t.wilbanks on February 05, 2014, 03:23:31 pm Disclaimer: I am in no way putting down mr. Mason or his dogs, it's just too hard to pass up a good jab at either breeds... ;)
I've seen some nice ab/dogo and pit/dogos that were catchdogs, and I've seen some good looking dogos that were...... Well dogos.. Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: cantexduck on February 05, 2014, 03:33:18 pm If you have to train a dog to catch......... I am out.
I think people added pit and or bulldog to them for the catching aspect and had the dogo blood just for size. I have had a dogo and a catdo. I run 2 pits and an american now. Title: Re: Post by: williamsld on February 05, 2014, 03:53:57 pm I've never had a problem getting a dogo to catch never had to train them to catch, I've had less problems outta my dogos than my pits or American bulldogs when it comes to catching something besides the ear, most of my dogos will pass out still caught when you try to choke them off you have to have a break stick
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk Title: Re: Post by: williamsld on February 05, 2014, 03:56:31 pm Im not trying to bash other dogs im just saying I've had better luck with dogos, having said that right now my main cd is a finished pit gyp that's about 30 pounds soaking wet, and she's as good as any dogo I've had
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk Title: Re: Post by: t.wilbanks on February 05, 2014, 04:34:57 pm Im not trying to bash other dogs im just saying I've had better luck with dogos, having said that right now my main cd is a finished pit gyp that's about 30 pounds soaking wet, and she's as good as any dogo I've had Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk Could you post some pics and info on your full blood dogos? Title: Re: Post by: cantexduck on February 05, 2014, 04:35:11 pm I've never had a problem getting a dogo to catch never had to train them to catch, I've had less problems outta my dogos than my pits or American bulldogs when it comes to catching something besides the ear, most of my dogos will pass out still caught when you try to choke them off you have to have a break stick Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk Like I said in my post I have only had one Dogo and one cross. How many have you had ? I have been around a hand full more and have seen alot of re gripping. Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: S_J_KENNELS on February 05, 2014, 04:43:05 pm The problem with dogos and any other breed for that matter is US the human aspect. In EVERY breed there is culls, and there is were WE as humans don't do our job and cull them. Hence passing off or breeding a cull because we spent too much for that cull, or know if we say we have X breed of dog that everybody wants or is in demand know we can sell those culls or culls pups for good $$$$$$$$. This is where people getting bad tastes in their mouths come from. The BIGGEST problem with dogos, and other high demand breed is the almighty GREEN PAPER we call a dollar!!!!
With that said I used to raise and hunt pits and AB's. I had some jam up ones as far as I was concerned, but got tired of them looking like earrings on some hogs. I was lucky and was given some jam up dogos and never looked back. Breeders in it just for the money are the problem. Not the breed(s). I have never had a dogo cross that I know of. I have hunted with some and the ones crossed with a cur or cat( not knocking anybody's dogs) were culls to me, but they did what they wanted. The only cross I would consider if I was to cross one would be to a AB or pit, but then I have seen some bad ones of those also. The most important advice I could give on this topic is this. FEED what you want and like and don't let anybody tell you otherwise. YOUR the one that has to be happy NOT those of us on here. GO HUNT!!! lol Title: Re: Post by: S_J_KENNELS on February 05, 2014, 04:45:50 pm [ Like I said in my post I have only had one Dogo and one cross. How many have you had ? I have been around a hand full more and have seen alot of re gripping. [/quote] CANTEX those are culls plain and simple. A true dogo like a bulldog or pit SHOULD not re grip. With that said can you honestly tell me you have never seen a pit or bulldog re grip ever? I know I have and culled them. Title: Re: Post by: cantexduck on February 05, 2014, 04:48:49 pm [ Like I said in my post I have only had one Dogo and one cross. How many have you had ? I have been around a hand full more and have seen alot of re gripping. CANTEX those are culls plain and simple. A true dogo like a bulldog or pit SHOULD not re grip. With that said can you honestly tell me you have never seen a pit or bulldog re grip ever? I know I have and culled them. [/quote] I agree. And funny that you ask that. A guy I know bought a dog(little female pit)from down your way that did re grip really bad. I forgot her name but she was a little dog. Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: S_J_KENNELS on February 05, 2014, 04:58:06 pm Cantexduck check your PM's
Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: Reuben on February 05, 2014, 08:21:18 pm If you have to train a dog to catch......... I am out. I say Amen to that... Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: chads7376 on February 05, 2014, 09:02:57 pm I just bred my Staghound to my Dogo/Pit. The Dogo/Pit took the Dogo side in looks and build but she has been a solid catch dog since I have owned her. We will see how they turn out...
Title: Re: Post by: williamsld on February 05, 2014, 11:34:19 pm I personally dont have anymore dogos at the moment my step dad has one 2 year old male left out of his hunting line and a 14 year old female outta it too but she's too old to breed I don't have any pictures of them but he's raised them for about 15 years, I've only had one not catch outta the countless one's we've had over the years, the ONLY down fall is they dont mature fast, we've never had a regriping issue with ours but most of our dogos have matured exstreamly fast for dogos, they normally mature aroun a year to two instead of the normal 3-4 years it takes for them to mature
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: Txmason on February 06, 2014, 10:28:28 am Let me just state, I have nothing against the Dogo's. I had them and was having a problemm with skin spots out here in the sandy soil. I gave my gyp to Krystal at Ugly dog and she crossed her with AB and I got a pup which Bryant has now.
My Catdo has color, catchs like a dogo but is a little smaller with manners, this is what I like at my age. Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: Txmason on February 06, 2014, 10:30:42 am Another thing is they have to show interest then you have to expose them.
Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: rdjustham on February 06, 2014, 05:59:41 pm Didn't mike ban Dogo threads a couple years ago?? ;D
Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: mex on February 06, 2014, 11:52:23 pm Get ready Mr.Mason that ol'man Sojo threw some dang good looking pups outta my girl.This litter we have high hopes for.2 monsters in the field!
Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: Txmason on February 07, 2014, 07:29:37 am Yes, I had heard and have been waiting on them, this will make the Catdo 3/4 dogo and 1/4 Cat. Thanks for the update and waiting on pictures.
Title: Re: Dogo crosses? Post by: Melonhead on February 08, 2014, 07:26:28 am I've been around, hunted, trained, and culled my fare share of dogos, for the last 6 years - a few things I've realized - the ones that truly have it, will show interest by 8 weeks, it's your job to put time in the dog and let them have fun. They ARE very slow to mature and if you let them sit for a year like cur dogs without exposer, most will end up as culls.
Exposer, exposer, exposer - fun and enjoyable. Freakin babies - big ol dogs like that. Been wanting to breed to a fl cur for the last 2 years - one day, it just might happen :) |