EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Circle T sent me some pics of his running hounds and hound/cur crosses. Dang good looking dogs, maybe he'll tell us a little about them...

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They look like they would run the air outta one!  I really like that red dog.

Very nice. I really like that last one

Just picked up a little trigg myself. So far, I like what I see

Just picked up a little trigg myself. So far, I like what I see

Fine lookin set of dogs circle T. The last 2 are lookers!

A good looking set of dogs for sure.  Anyone that knows me could probably guess which one would be my favorite!

Mike, circle t, how do your full bloods hunt for you?

They look like they could fly, and fly for a long time

Man that blonde and black saddle back is real nice lookin!

Appreciate it, some days they look good some days they don't ,the lil red male is a cross 17mth him and his litter mates (two brothers ) are goin to make it, he's out of the red gyp up top ,the lil black pup and the blue saddle back gyp are litter mates they making 10 mths and got all the hunt and go a man would want time will tell if they have the other qualities they'll need , the lil male on the bottom is a 3/4 July 1/4 running walker him and the second gyp were started on coyotes ,the lil gyp has a lot of foot speed not much on baying, the ill pups are out of her and cur

Good looking set of dogs.

Did you end up keeping the bitch in the fourth pic? I talked with you awhile back when you were talking about getting rid of her.

Some fine looking dogs you have there. They have the legs a dog needs to stay with one on a long race

Circle T,

Just realized who you are.  We spoke on the phone a while back.  Good to see you on.

Bryant

Those are sure nice looking dogs there Circle T. They look like they would walk fast much less run. Do they have any bite to them and what part of the world are you from?

Fine lookin set of coondogs circle T!

Appreciate it Bryant , Im trying to figure this computer thing out , lil behind times I guess, I've only started fooling with these running dogs last few years, I've had cur dogs over 20 yrs. have had a couple good ones I thought, kind of bred myself in a corner and everybody got their own thoughts on what they want or think a good dog should be like, mine has always been and still is hunt , and bottom and if your lucky you get some with some foot speed, I don't mind a dog a lil rough but sure don't want to lose any of the hunt and bottom to get it, these crosses seem to be doin real as far as I'm concerned , they cast hunt , showing good bottom and some don't mind pulling hair, so far I like um. I raised cur dogs for years , and will always have um , but I got those runnin gyps bred back right now , I liked the first couple crosses so well

Yeah they fast to a tree

Casey I had three of them gyps that were identical , I kept two of um , the cross that made the lil red male is happening again, if you wanna try one u more than welcome

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I was just curious how she was turning out if you did keep her. Ill try one, if you have an extra pup this next go round.

I've been thinking of making the same cross. How mouthy are the crosses on track?

Circle T I agree with you on the type of dog you like what you are willing to or not willing to sacrifice. I have done the same thing as you in breeding myself into a corner. In my part of the world it is proving that I need 3 major traits to have the most productive dogs. Of course the hunt and bottom, the track speed, and the bite too.  I don't want running catch dogs or stupid rough but sure enough get a mouth full an ol' hogs pride and joy and hang on till it faces up. We have a lot of thickets around here that can be pretty tough traveling for a dog which we all know can allow a hog to catch it's wind. The other problem is when you get it stopped, it has to stay stopped because they will try and brush you off on a fresh set of hogs that a lot of times may not be but 8-900 yards away. We have a lot of hogs here then all of a sudden they seem to vanish and it might take half the day to find something. Do you find that your dogs that have the bite are of the same crosses or do you just get a few here and there from your line in general? Been considering the running dog cross myself is the reason for all the questions. Mike I would love to hear your thoughts too.

Casey they got a lot of hunt to them when I turn um loose they get gone, have found their own several times.     T- dog I sure wouldn't call um rough or even gritty, they will get rough on the ass end of one, sound like you hunt the same kind of country , I don't believe so much in to the gritty dogs stopping and holding a hog theory, i know they will and do I've seen it, but I beleive they educate a lot of good hogs and might be where all these running hogs learn either run or get ate up, I'd just rather have a dog that has the bottom and speed to stay with um , and if he does stop stand back and bay, now if it's small enough he can catch sure go ahead, but I don't want to cut a good track run him 4 hrs and he bay up and have a dog get too gritty bust him , that's just what I like

Thanks Circle T, sounds like we are on the same page. The dogs we run now are fast and have lots of bottom, Walker/Cat crosses. This will sound ridiculous but we ourselves walked 11 miles on foot on a hunt at the end of this last summer. Fortunately I grew up around here and new who to call if we crossed a place that I didn't have permission to hunt it or could skirt the couple that were a problem. There wasn't a single place that didn't have fresh sign on it the whole way. We were getting brushed off on fresh group after fresh group about every 6-800 yards it seemed. These hogs usually let about 2 barks out and then the race is on. We caught one hog at the first of the hunt and another at the end. That was how we got the dogs caught but it took getting a dog to them that pulled up tighter and would sure enough bite If the hog wasn't faced up. That dogs style pulled the other two up closer so that they could work the hog if it decided it wanted to leave. They weren't trying to catch but letting it know it didn't have options. There's no telling how much ground the dogs covered if we went 11 miles ourselves. Needless to say the dogs were out for 4 or 5 days after that race. I feel like those kinds of races will make an old dog of a prime dog prematurely. It was the most miserable hunt I have been on in 20+ years of doing this.

T-dog... Circle T took the words right out of my mouth. In thick country where the hogs are spoiled, it doesn't seem matter how much bite and stopping power a dog has... it does no good if they can't catch up to the hog. They either flat out catch or end up in a long race most of the time.

Decker, I only have one full hound. He's super fast, decent nose, and all the hunt, drive, bottom and stamina you can ask for. I've had him on the ground from daylight till dark many times... and he'd be ready to go again tomorrow. But, I will say, he's been the most hard headed, stubborn and hard to break dog I've ever raised.

On the cur side does any of them go back to mr Winfrey? Really nice looking dogs reminds me of a lot of mine .

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Yep Them some fine hunting dogs they will run a hog in the dirt! I have had the pleasure hunting behind some of them very good dogs !   I Hope to have more soon .lol      Some well breed working dogs hands down!       

Ha , appreciate it Muddog, , I thought a few were doin ok until Peachcreeks chihuahua showed um up, hell of deal, appreciate the use of the training pen Travis very nice set up

Glad u enjoyed it. Cant wait to get the full hound runnin in here.

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