EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

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Reuben.....check your pm

Mr. Rueben would be the first man i'd speak with, looks like you already knew that though.  ;D

IMO can't beat a good un that's my preferred breed of choice, ill post pics tomorrow at work my phone doesn't get along with Photobucket

Kevin...will post pics when I get a chance...since I had to spay my female I am more than likely buy a female pup out of Tenn.already set up to get one in about 4 months...if you want a pup from an excellent line of dogs you might consider getting one as well...might get 2 pups shipped for the price of one...

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2 and some change yr old bitch on the left and 6 month old puppy on right. she is OMC and he is out of the Kemmer stock. These are my squirrel dogs, not hog dogs....figured it might be the only chance to post em' on here since we were talking about Mtn curs...lol


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  ain't nothing wrong with posting mnt. curs doing what they are bred to do  lol   

  whitten's cowboy doing what comes natural  .  just remember a tree dog will bay , but a bay dog won't tree !!

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Looking good Robert

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I was fortunate enough to get back in this game and just received an Mountain Cur/BMC.Awesome hound sound and leg on this dude.

Kevin...this is that ! nut dog I was telling you about...he is a pretty good dog considering I work 70 hourd a week on this project I am working on...

I was getting his littermate sister bred to another of my dogs but her uterus burst and an operation later she can not have any pups...the plan was to take a few female pups and breed to him...he hunts at a run as does his sister... full mt cur...he has lots of good hog dogs behind his breeding...

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This is a mt cur x parker cur...bred him to that gyp that I mentioned previously...was hoping for some nice pups so no I am looking for a good female pup...working on a deal and will post about that...


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littermate to the brindle... mt cur x parker...this one is pretty gritty...

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That is a great pic halfbreed. Those are some real nice looking dogs Reuben. I really like that last black one you posted.

this is one I had back in the late 1990s and he produced some good dogs...used him quite a bit...he was a rare color but he never threw that color...not even his offspring...had a few pics of other dogs and they crashed on my old computer...photobucket is a nice tool...

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since that gyp can't have pups I am now looking for a pup...my plan before the gyp that was given to me by a good friend was to get a pup out of next level mt Dude who is a world champion coon and squirrel dog...below is his pic...

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below is a nephew of mt Dude named Ammo...I am hoping to get a female pup out of him in about 4 months...Ammo is supposed to be better than Mt Dude at the tree but about the same on hunting ability...Ammos sire is Mt Dudes full brother and he is as good as both of the dogs mentioned...The female I am getting the pup from in 4 months is of the old style mt cur and is a good hunting dog from a long line of good dogs...

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Reuben I got a male right now that the same as your light colored dog


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There were a few pms sent to me about where to find good mt curs...I really don't know the lines from nowadays...I knew a few back in the 1980s and 1990s...but I look around now and then in the full cry and that is how I found these dogs...I don't know any of these dogs as hog dogs but I am willing to bet they will produce good ones...at one time I was set up to produce good dogs but that is gone and now I am only after breeding a few good dogs for myself...but like I have mentioned before...if you are interested in producing top dogs then we can work together if you are serious about it...I am not in it for the money...just like to hunt behind a good dog and sharing pups with a few breeders would be great...that will enable those who will follow a program of that type to produce good to great dogs sooner than later...

I already talked to the owner of AMMO and we can buy up most of the litter and have the pups transported to a centralized location towards East Texas...already have 2 reserved...no tire kickers...pups are 250 each and 100 dollars sent to me would hold a pup...I would also know you are serious about getting a pup with that deposit...if there are no pups then money will be refunded right away...

thanks everyone...nice looking critter getters...How old is your pup on that tree halfbreed?

   he was 4 months old back then Rueben , I haven't taken any new pic's   lol  he's around 18 month's old now . and except for being  hard headed and wired 440 he's doing real good .  still on the smaller side around 45lbs. but he stays thin and could use around 5 more lbs to round him out  .

   he has given me some pups  [ catxmnt cur ] and  [ plottxmnt cur ] that I didn't want at the time  lol  and I still have several to get rid of . they are around 6 months old and they were good crosses regardless of my negligence . real gamey dogs .

            Rueben I tried to look up dudes pedigree on the sdc data base and he is listed but not his lineage .  are they the busher type curs ?  they have the look and build of it  .

I believe the owner said mostly busher, huntsman and  streak...maybe a little plott..  :o I like the size and this winnings between the three are a plus....

    lol  yeah the busher boy's cuss streak for the supposedly fiest blood in him , and the streak boy's cuss the bushers dogs for the supposedly plott blood   lol    hell boy's they is cur dogs , they didn't drop from the womb one day decades ago  a pure mnt. cur  dog   lol 

yep...that's about right...

Grit. Mnt Cur x catahoula. Loose bay, colder nose,TONS of hunt and bottom. You never have to ask this dog to get ahead or hunt.
He always wants to be the lead dog. Wish I knew more about the mnt cur blood in him.

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I like mt curs because of their hunt and nose...these dogs about have the right range and style for me...I sure don't want a dog that will go a mile before he settles down to hunt...and don't want one under my feet...3-4 hundred yards to one side and come running by at a lope to the other side for a 3-4 hundred yard loop is about right...that is covering a lot of ground and the dog is hunting with me...if the dogs are not seen for a while pull the tracker because they probably have one bayed somewhere...or running one...

some have pm'ed me and asked what I think of them...well I have hunted them for many years and if I thought there were better out there I would hunt some other breed...not saying there isn't but I like them for the medium nose to cold nose for tracking and winding, the ability to find game, sticking with the track and plenty of grit...back in the old days they used them on all game including bear and hog...I didn't know anyone who ran hogs with them when I first started using them but there are some that do now...some folks don't like the range or no quit in these dogs but that is a trait that all good to great hunting dogs should possess...there are probably lots of mt curs that I would consider culls just like there are in other breeds...but I won't hesitate to buy a pup from a coon and squirrel line of dogs...but not just from squirrel dogs...at least with a coon dog line we know that the dog may have to trail a long ways to catch the coon on the ground or put him up a tree...if the dog kills the coon one on one then I know he has what it takes to put teeth on a hog...and I like the old style dogs of the 50-60 pounds with plenty of leg, speed, fast tracking, good ear on them as well...I don't like chrome on a dog but on the chest and throat it is ok...if the dogs are already houndy you can cross a parker or a good line of BMC to quiet them down a little on track and to get some size on them...or...if they are too feisty, then add some plott or walker and then breed back to mt cur...lots of options...that's about the way my logic goes...I like papers to see what is what and who is who and then they are filed...

been a few folks contacting me about the mtn cur dogs...go to this website and look around...STUD DOGS is one good thread and BOBCAT is another to look at to see some good looking curs...

http://forums.ukcdogs.com/forumdisplay.php?s=ee5b299e62d4ee5b084a6f2e20ec4837&forumid=5

I wouldn't own a carl smith mt cur on account they are small and look like fiest dogs...but he has shown everyone that his Smith Streak dogs can win consistently...he has to be one heck of a dog man to be able to win with his dogs on a regular basis...probably can pick a winner and then he must train them to their maximum potential...

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/10/e5e5ybaq.jpg)here my little Mnt Curr jojo. I bought him from a man in north east texas says the breeder lives just across the river in Oklahoma. All I know is he is the best mannered dog and is a hunting machine long range not gritty but will put teeth in one. If he barks you can bet there is a hog in front of him. First Mnt I have owned and had made me a believer. I'm hoping to breed him one day just haven't figured out what route to go.


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Those are some good looking dogs. There is a guy named Rick from Ok. He is on the Parker board. He hunts Kemmer Mtn. curs & he catches a lot of hogs.

I'm just now looking at trying out some hog hunting but have been in to the mt curs for a good little while. Only squirrel and coon hunted them in the past. The Kemmer lines always seemed to cross over on hogs well from what I've seen and heard. The older/bigger dogs with the busher/huntsman stuff also. Which is where the briar mt dogs come from with the exception of the rumors of the plott and walker crossed into some of them. But in defense of the streak bred dogs my little gyp which is as streak bred as you can get did bay 2 hogs one day in the Mississippi delta. I pretty sure she just ran into them in the palmettos but it proved halfbreeds statement about tree dogs baying.

Everyone has there preference in dogs, mine is mt curs.  I have owned 40-50 of them and currently have 11.  My favorite is busher and kemmer breeding.  My dogs are smart, hunt hard, and catch hogs.  They breed true, consistently reproducing the same quality as the parents.  I have hunted damn near every breed that's out there and never found anything that suited my style of hunting like the mt cur.

what is the average weight for your females and males?

Kemmer is all right but I like mixing original mt cur with kemmer...but my favorite by far was the Texas Smoke bred dogs...but a good mt cur can hunt with the best...

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He is a direct son out of him and here is his mom!

My females are 35-50 and males are 50-70.  I too prefer to mix kemmer and omc.  I like gold nugget crossed with heavy busher and don't mind an eighth streak.  I love the hunt of heavy streak breeding but hate what it does to size and conformation.

I think!?!?

That Boone Dock dog is nice. He's out on mike which is a littermate to dude. Maybe not same litter but same cross. Dude mike rebel and some others I can't recall names of are all better than average tree dogs. Hustle wind ability and nose is in all of them. That budxliz cross that produced them was potent. Of course like all good cur dogs their lineage is questionable. Heard plenty times that Liz had a treeing walker for a mom. I don't care good dogs is good dogs. I think mr Ronnie rakestraw in Mississippi made that cross. It seams to me that those dogs crossed good over some of the streak stuff. But that streak blood can hurt the size of the finished product.

I guarantee the bud Liz stuff crosses great on streak.  Anytime you breed heavy busher dogs to streak blood the offspring preform well.

The downside is that most will be smaller than their busher ancestry.  Some a tad smaller and some a whole lot smaller.  Size doesn't affect performance but I prefer a bigger dog.  At the end of the day the man feeding the dogs opinion is all that matters

Some good info men....I appreciate it

Not sure what I done wrong, but some of my text was gone! The puppy pic is out of Boone Dock and that female with pups can't remember her name. But what I was saying is Boone doc is a son or brother to dude... Not sure tho.

what they have in common is greatness...Boone Doc and Ammo out of Mike and Mike is full brother to Dude...all world champions...


of course when a line of dogs are winning there will be rumors...I also favor the larger mt cur dogs...a small dog will work for striking but a 200 pound boar will wear one like an ear ring...and the larger ones will be like an anchor hanging on...

I like the striking/locating ability and the bottom of a good mt cur...I think this line of dogs will have it...that is why I am getting a female pup...

No doubt the better stuff gets hated one the most. Jealousy is a powerful thing that some folks can't get over.