EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

(Disclaimer: Due to the winter storm  coming thru this part of Ga., couped up and bored as hell.) Just for the sake of some spirited  discussion, what do u consider a hog dog. Ex., u can take a real dog put him n hog sign and at the end u have your quarry. Does style, terrain, genetics etc.,make a dog. Some dogs cannot transition from one environment to another. Just askin...,.

There is no right answer for everyone. 

A true hog dog to me is one that will find a hog if one is to be found. He will run that hog as long as it takes. He has no interests in no animal other than a hog.

Other than these points everything else is subjective to the owners


Shotgun
Arkansas

"You can't catch hogs with loose dogs in MY area cause they'll just run and run. You need ROUGH dogs where I hunt!"

"You better have some loose baying dogs if you want to catch hogs in my area. To much pressure and they'll run!"

"Tight baying or loose baying don't matter...you gotta have endless bottom in your dogs if you want to catch dogs in MY area"

"You gotta have small dogs to get through the thick stuff if you want to catch hogs in MY area"

"You gotta have some leg under your dog and run their lungs out to catch 'em in MY area"

Lol....A REAL HOG DOG is a dog that you are able to catch hogs behind on a regular basis......period.

Can my dogs produce in Louisiana? IDK....but that's not where I hunt.
How bout Arkansas or Oklahoma....can my dogs produce there? Don't know....it's not where I hunt.
S.E. Texas? Don't know....NOT WHERE I HUNT!
What I do know.....I CAN catch hogs WHERE I HUNT.

So.... If they aren't HOG DOGS....what are they?

U r very right. Very subjective i am almost ashamed i asked the question,  but .... I am still bored!  LoL .

Lol....A REAL HOG DOG is a dog that you are able to catch hogs behind on a regular basis......period.


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But I would like to add!!!!! Lol

I'm NOT satisfied with my dogs. There are things I'm working on. Attributes I would like to see improve.
I think I'll always be "tweeking", lol.

Hey Mr. k have u ever wanted to remove any doubt about ur dogs capabilities beyond what they have accomplished just for yourself.

yea Kevin...you can tweak until the dogs won't quit and they either die from heat exhaustion or maybe over tweak on grit and then you lose a good dog to a hog now and then...then you tweak the other way...maybe...  ;D

Lol...made that little addition before I even saw your post DEVILDAWG.

I don't know about " proving" anything.... As I said...I'll ALWAYS be "tweeking" my dogs, but that's for ME....no one else.

Reuben....you are DANG sure right!!! Lol

It's a fine line.

Mr. K we must have been typing at the same time

A hog dog to me is one that finds hogs and hunts the way you think a dog should I like short to med range super rough but at the same time I like loose with good bottom this style works good for me but any one you ask will give you a different answer catches hogs hog dog lol

Hell dont feel bad about posting this we will beat the hell out of it some more LOL.

You know everybody is different and everybody has different types of dogs .  One guy says he has the best the other guy says he got the best.  Ruff , Catchy, Loose , Back Off, Bottom to no end and this and that and this and that.  I say who gives a damn !  Its all Rooty Poo man .  If you got dogs that catch you hogs most the times you go out then those dogs are as good as the next mans .  Hell his dogs may not catch hogs like yours in your conditions and yours may not catch hogs like his in his conditions again who gives a hoot, its all Rooty Poo , Mickey Mouse you  need this you need that how the hell do you know what is best for me when you have never hunted with me are old so and so .  So ,  if your dogs catch you hogs most the times when  you go out you got good dogs are dogs good nuff to catch hogs whos to say his are better than yours are whos to say you need this are you need to loose this in your dogs.

A hog dog is a hog dog I dont give a damn were he comes from , who breeds him are how he is bred if he gets out there and finds you hogs and you like him the Hell with everybody else and what they think !

Just me !

Amen

This here is the Major thing that gripes my butt. When I hear a man say things like this  :

If your dog aint getting out there a mile, mile and a half he aint hunting !...........Bull Chit !  I have found just as many are more hogs withend 250-500 yds than I ever had at a mile , mile and a half .

If your dog aint got big bottom he aint a hog dog ...........Bull Chit !  It dont matter that he has found stopped bayed and caught 500 in less than 20 miles !

If your dog breaks a bay he is worthless.....Bull Chit ! I guess the other 1000 he has found stopped bayed are caught mean noting ...............Bull Chit !

It just goes on and on man !

One that finds, sticks, bays and stays is a hog dog to me...

Off the subject kinda here. I had a boy tell me once he really lucked up and got him a  multi purpose dog. He'd run deer hogs and rabbits

that's funny as hell!!

They call them meat dogs!

Ha I had dog on trial and told him he treed a coon first hunt out.  He said damn I should have asked $1,000 instead of $800

anything is possible. It is possible that a dog can be trained to hunt different game if that is what the handler wants

Any dog that consistently produces hogs for me... No matter what color or breed or anything else people love to argue about..

A lot of people think just because a dog runs out there and bays a hog every now and then it's a hog dog but that's not usually the case. A hog dog is one you can put down and If it's been a hog there it's going to find it somewhere and be bayed next time you get within hearing distance of it regardless of where it has to go. And a hog dog at the end of the day when your ready to go you don't worry about the hog everyone is trying to catch that dog because he has done put on a show. And another way to tell when you have a hog dog is when you and people you hunt with go to doing some serious culling because everything else is really just in the way of this dog. That's when you have a hog dog.

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When you can load up and take your own pack to the woods and catch hogs consistently well then you have some hog dogs!!

I like what you said...  :)

I prefer an esteemed scholar dog.  Preferably one with scholastic papers reflecting his higher education.

We typically travel to the edge of the dense forests and discuss the preferred methods of defeating our chosen quarry ......
The elusive and majestic Bo hog.

I take under advisment of any concerns that the dog may have for approaching such a dangerous and vile creature.

If the assessment by the dog seems futile ....we depart the forest and return to our warm cottage where I promptly serve warm tea and cookies for my beloved canine companion. We then chat into the evening as we watch the sun set...about the gyps that got away....or those wild registry parties back when he was getting his papers.

Or...

I kick em out and if they dont disappear to go do their job......they disappear.  ^-^

What I want in a hogdog...........simple.........Do Your Job!

pretty well sums it up Mr. Mike.

All my dogs are hog dogs.  I dont have what most of yall would consider a super star "hog dog" but I got 4 dogs that when the door on the box opens they can get out and catch hogs. They  make one hell of a team.   To me they are all hog dogs. 

When working on hogs, a cur dog that can be taken to the woods by itself to wind, find, stop, and attempt to "anchor" any hog. My dogs and I are close range hunters.

Damn myles, you need to blow that $hit out.... ;)