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Title: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: rdjustham on February 16, 2014, 04:22:24 pm
Im thinking about doing away with my raised kennels and pouring a concrete slab come tax return time.  The one thing I would like to do either way is install a septic system.  Anyone that has one if you could post some pics and some details on how you have it hooked up to the kennels would be great.  Ive got an idea for the two 55gal barrel style septic system just cant figure on how to hook it up to the pens.


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Post by: DWEST on February 16, 2014, 04:41:28 pm
Im toying with the same idea.  Got a guy I deer hunt with that used a piece of 6 or 8" RDS pipe (the greenish colored PVC) laid behind the kennel against the slab and then cut out the top side to catch all the waste.  This could then be run to your burried 55 gal drum

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Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: rdjustham on February 16, 2014, 04:45:26 pm
Thought about that, but wonder how you get it angled to run to the system and still catch all the waste.


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Post by: DWEST on February 16, 2014, 04:50:16 pm
Start it high on the far end.  A lil more expensive, but lay the pipe whole, and then mark and cut it.  So you wont be necessarily be cutting it in half.  And you'd actually end up with a kind of back stop so you squirt the poo right over it

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Post by: DWEST on February 16, 2014, 04:51:48 pm
You should only need (I think) a 1/4" in 4' of fall.

Hell...pick Noah's brain.   He's a plumber,  aint he?  LOL

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Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: rdjustham on February 16, 2014, 05:01:07 pm
damn I forgot about that!!!  hes always pickin my brain about FWC stuff, thanks for reminding me!


Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: Bryant on February 16, 2014, 05:06:04 pm
I don't know how many dogs your housing, but I would think if over 1, the 55 gal drum thing isn't going to work.  I put at 1,750 gallon system at my kennels and wish I had put larger.  I have twelve pens that go into mine.  I'd have to search back through old posts but I put up one when I built my kennels 3 or 4 years ago and told how I did it.


Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: mtarrant23 on February 16, 2014, 05:23:02 pm
If your going to pour concrete form a trough in the back with a floor drain at one end then 90 into your barrel but you need some field line and if you plan on washing the poo down prolly need a bigger tank and use some rid x quite often


Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: devildawg86 on February 16, 2014, 05:31:15 pm
Get a couple of the 275 gallon totes instead of the barrels


Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: wine6978 on February 16, 2014, 07:11:45 pm
I was thinking of building one out of those square plastic tote deals. I was going to use 2 of them, but I was wondering if that would be enough... It'll have to take about 10-15 dogs at a time. You think that'll work or no??? Ima find the website I was going to model mine off of.


Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: wine6978 on February 16, 2014, 07:21:05 pm
http://www.wikihow.com/Construct-a-Small-Septic-System

This kinda deal


Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: devildawg86 on February 16, 2014, 07:25:01 pm
I think u can get those totes n 330 gal tote. If u have 12 kennels get 4 totes. 1 tote will take care of 3 kennels


Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: JUNIOR SEFFERN on February 16, 2014, 07:40:01 pm
First start with your slab at 1" of fall for every 10', weather you fall left or right don't matter. Give the slab 1" of fall to the back of your entire slab. I used concrete blocks for my walls then built my panels on top of the block walls. At the back of each wall cut a 3"x3" hole in the bottom. All the poo will flow from pen to pen as your spraying them out until you get to the last pen. When I poured my slab I put a water box drain in which was formed in to be flush with the slab. Spray poo into the drain and it flows into your septic. If you have no clue about septic systems I would suggest you have a company install it. They are tricky to keep everything flowing. Also I highly recommend that you install a filter on the back side of your tank which will help keep dog hair out of your drain field. It will clog and fail if not. And if you have a bunch of dogs I don't suggest the a 55gallon drum system you will have to have it pumped out every week or two. More harm then good. Dog poo don't break down like human poo does. I have a 1050 gallon concrete tank and have to have it pumped out every 6 months with 16 dogs.

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Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: charles on February 16, 2014, 07:50:06 pm
 growing up, we used 2 55gal drum for our house septic system. dug 1 big hole, and made a step down for 1 barrel to sit 10" lower than the 1st barrel. just below the top of the 1st barrel, my dad cut a 6" hole for a 6" pvc pipe. he put a 90 on the pipe and cut a 6" hole in the top of the other barrel and stubbed the 90 in the hole, cut another 6" hole on the other side of the top for the discharge pipe. with my dads new house, he dug a 10'x10'x6' hole,  we put a 6" pipe on the downhill side for a discharge line. we put chicken wire up a couple inches off the sides and bottoms. mixed up sack-create with a putty like consistency and applied it to the bottom and half way up the sides first, let it dry a day and finished the sides up the next day. don't know how much crap it will hold, but he has been in his new house 14yrs and has yet to have to clean it out and EVERYTHING (black and gray water) goes into it.  


Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: wine6978 on February 16, 2014, 08:06:59 pm
http://www.gundoghousedoor.com/articles/sanitary_dog_kennel.php

This is the other system I have seen. I was thinking of using this system one for every 2 kennels... I dont think it would hold up to 5 dogs worth...


Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: JUNIOR SEFFERN on February 16, 2014, 08:40:59 pm
Again dog poo don't break down so you would either have to dig the can out or have it pumped out a lot. I think the idea of having a septic to keep the smell down is a lot but being convenient is more of the reason I have it. I don't want to have to put lime down all the time or use a box blade to pull it away or any other pain in the but work if I ain't got to.


Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: LAhogger84 on February 16, 2014, 08:59:48 pm
I got a full wheel barrel full of dog crap this evening. Gotta lime tomorrow. Still gonna have some smell tho. Bad n the hot summer. Neighbor prolly hates me


Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: Ekunkel on February 17, 2014, 07:56:25 pm
Be careful on this guys. Especially with admitting to what you have. Its aginst the law to install a system if your not licensed. Groundwater board will get that a**. I dont believe its an "in town only" permit either. It gos for everyone, everywhere. My dads business partner is licensed, ill check on it. 


Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: charles on February 17, 2014, 08:12:06 pm
The groundwater board can eat the peanuts outa my dogs poo if they have a problem with it. What the difference in just washing onto the ground or having a septic to catch it n have it pumped out? Just another way for the government to squeeze every penny out of the citizens.


Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: JUNIOR SEFFERN on February 17, 2014, 08:13:51 pm
In Florida you do not have to pull a permit for dog pen septic systems


Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: toyotatodd on February 18, 2014, 06:02:48 pm
You happen to know the make or model of your filter setup junior?


Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: JUNIOR SEFFERN on February 18, 2014, 09:44:10 pm
Where you outlet pipe leaves the tank..it should be about 8-10" inside the tank. Put a "T" coupling at the end of the outlet pipe. Add pipe to the bottom of the "T" so that it faces the bottom of the tank. This should be done in 3" pipe and then you could buy a filter from your local hardware store or homedepot/lowes....or a septic company close to you. Filter slides into the top of the tee. Make sure you cut the bottom pipe so that it is even with the bottom of your filter


Title: Re: Installing a septic system for kennels?
Post by: JUNIOR SEFFERN on February 19, 2014, 08:47:38 am
I don't know of a particular brand name for the filter, they all are pretty much the same.