EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I've picked up several pits over the last year looking for a cd. I pick ones i can leave around the house without worrying about the kids to much. I haven't gotten any of those that would catch good. I got a big male that acted more serious last time but he was crazy. fight any dog m or f without provocation caught on lower jaw but hated kids gave a low growl when they were around. I am really hammering the pigs but alot of times it ends in a long bay or dogs don't catch. I've went back to legging them (finally got my nerve back after getting stuck) I like hunting with a knife much better than shooting them. I have been taking my buddy who has a pit that catches but I still miss some because he will stop for a half second to survey before he catches and if hes tired he wont catch.It gives the hog time to burn out of there. The ruff dogs I've been hunting with just don't catch hard enough or reliably enough and break bays alot.I need a no nonsense lock down catch dog. that will catch most anything it's put on. so my question is, how do I pick a dog that will do it without being a safety hazard. if you look for a certain look and can show a pic of it i would appreciate it. or give advice. I am in mo so not many hunt pigs here. experienced cds are few. I'm not a bulldog guy. I just have nearly no experience with them. also american bulldog vs pit which is better. I have noticed alot of people ive hunted with that had good cds had those dogs with big heads and cheeks to there ears more like ab's just some questions hope someone understands what i mean.

JMO.....

I REALLY like the American Bulldog/Pitt Bull cross. Get the best of both worlds, lol.

I'm sorry about your luck man. I don't have anything available but it'd probably be worth the trip to take a drive south a ways just to get a few more options, lol.

I don't think u can look at a bulldog and say its gonna make a CD no more than u can look at one and know its game. I will take a cd that can get along with other dogs and I don't have to worry about with my lil girl that hesitates or misses or just isn't the absolute best cd over one that is a catching machine but is uneasy around my lil girl.


Shotgun
Arkansas

The most unlikely ones make the best most will do the job I would rather has a good dog and a ok cd vs a good cd and a bad dog ab are great dogs no need to cross them

I just try and find one that's muscled up and looks like he's got a good pit head, then personality wise I try to get one that is really mild mannered and laid back. Then, at that point, I brig em home and get him involved with my dogs. When I know he'll do all of the above, we try him on hogs. Most of the time a good headed pit that's muscled and has a good build to him will catch, so I look for the other traits first

Me and you are on the same page. I did just this last week, he is 0 for 1 but conditions were nowhere near perfect. Tryin again hopefully tomorrow.
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Well there are lines of good catch dogs that are bred for great handle and catch like a freight train. They do exist.

I don't think anyone can look at a bulldog or pup and tell if it's going to catch or not. Several years back a guy from town brought me one that was weird as any dog I have ever been around. And I was sure he was not going to catch This dog was bug eyed and had no personality at all he didn't wag his tail or hassle or try to play or anything a normal dog does he would just stand there.. I was kind of scared of the dog to be honest cause I couldn't tell what kind of mood he was in so I give him to a guy that we hunt together some and he turned out to be a fine catch dog he would of been a terrible pet but he was good at his job I've never heard him bark or whine or even act like a dog he was straight ear everytime and had jaws to go with it . He was easy to staple up as he would just stand there doing nothing like he was in a zone or something. But when I looked at that dog that day I thought this is just another waste but I was wrong and have been wrong on some I thought was going to catch. Just try to find you some and try them out and get one with a temperament you like .

I can't tell you how, but I've never yet picked up a single bulldog that I didn't get to catch. Now, I have culled all of them except the first one and my current on for some reason or another but never yet picked one that wouldn't catch.

Best "advice" I guess, would be don't look for a big muscled up fat head pit of any color. I got a blue pit one time, she would catch, but I culled her quicker than any other for a multitude of reasons, my best luck has always been with pits who are built like curs with a pit head.

You can tell a lot by looking into their eyes. When I got mine at the pound, I liked the way she was built but the way she looked at me with a an intense stare, I figured she'd be a good one and I was right.

I'm with you T Bob....never had one that wouldn't catch.

I can chime in and say that a muscled up "butt head" does NOT automatically mean that that bull
dog is any more likely to catch than a narrower headed dog, nor that the bite
will be more powerful.
I have proof of that sitting here on my yard.

I use gamebred pits have a yella one now bout 50 pounds all muscle he gets it done n listens well

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, guess no one likes our catch dogs lol

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There is no "certain look" that will tell you if a dog will make a catchdog that will suit you. It's best to find a well bred dog that has generations of dogs in their pedigree that would fit your requirements. Come to think of it, that's a purty good way of finding any working dog.

well scott, maybe i should have asked about lines of catch dogs instead. I hear people on here discussing pit lines but not in terms of catch lines. I seriously want to know. all i've read is about game bred or what have you but not dogs bred specifically for catch dogs.

I run game bred pits , they are linebred , a battle type cross , old family red , Hemphill / wilder , male  and a chinaman , Frisco female  full mood ,  I take them at a young age and teach socialization skills for a year , mega time mega work , around dogs , equip , cows , kids  ect. Most folks just wanna hunt and not so much work , but around my neck of the woods no one cat he more hogs than us or has any better CDs , these dogs are smart and learn to avoid damage , they hit a hog like a freight train and have a bite like a alligator , they will die on a hog before they let go , I will be breeding soon , reg bulldogs out of proven parents , Jorge has caught number 4 in the WWT open feild weight class solo
This is rosé my chinaman Frisco female
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This is Jorge

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Good lookin bulldogs bob!

Find you a cross between american bulldog and olde english bulldog. If you need a full grown dog, get him from a pound. Pound dogs are always hungry. If you get one from a litter of pups. Pick the pup that wants to tug on your pant leg, nip your hand, or wants to play rough. When you get a cross of these breeds, they aren't as crazy as some pits out there. I have 2 like this. They are actually protective of my kids towards strangers and they will rip the snout off of a 150 pound hog. Literally. I have a white one and a brindle and white one you can see in action on my facebook page-rollingthunderec

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I breed a good gritty curr to a line of sporting Pitts pretty dangerous have to muzzle but they would go ballistic on the baddest boar never used vest and never lost one to a hog but must know how to handle not for newbies.

I run a cur pit cross that handles like a dream, is nice and friendly to everyone, good with
the other dogs, and hammers pigs. He has no quit and is in general one of the better dogs I have had.
Hell, with the cur in him he will even hunt out a few hundred yards.

I have 2 cur pits also and  i have a ambulldog/cur cross. They are a really good cross. Especially for Running catch dogs. Mine do the same thing, they range out far and I mainly use them for my strike dogs but they will also catch. I keep a old english and ambulldog mix on a leash because he's so squatty. If you get them with too much old english in them,they come out so short, they aren't very athletic. But, when they do get there, they are like a boat anchor. Also, they have a very short snout so its hard for them to bite bigger portions of the hog. I.E. the throat and back of neck. But when they grab a leg or snout, its over, somethings getting broke. I use my little bulldog for insurance. If i have a big boy in the brush giving my dogs some problems, i send that little mobster in and he just starts breaking legs.