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Title: Young dogs trashing Post by: Bowhunter1994 on March 07, 2014, 10:05:06 pm What do you do when a young dog trashes! I just started hunting him (1 year old) he has been on hogs in the pen but just getting in the woods since deer season is over with. He has found 2 hogs on his own, but lately I have been hunting him in fields and he loves chasing jack rabbits.
I don't want to shock him off them because he is hunting!! I don't want to shut him down hunting wise until he figures it out ( hog wise). Am I messing him up? What would you do? Like I said he is started and knows what a hog is and has found two on his own. Sonny Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: Shotgun wg on March 07, 2014, 10:29:47 pm Let him hunt. After he has been on a few more pigs with lots of praise I would start working on the jack rabbit issues. But then again I got a bunch of dillo dogs I'm still trying to get lined out.
Shotgun Arkansas Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: Bowhunter1994 on March 09, 2014, 01:40:07 pm Up anyone else
Sonny Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: Judge peel on March 09, 2014, 03:14:23 pm I wouldn't shock him till it starts getting more frequent or a little old can take the hunt out of them if shocked to much to young
Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: txsteve85 on March 09, 2014, 03:27:23 pm I trashbroke a pup by the time she was 14 months old.
I just set the trashbreaker low just to get her attention. never had to fry her. She turned out fine. Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: aussie black mouth curs on March 09, 2014, 05:22:52 pm Shock him. Anything else just reinforces the bad behaviour. He will still hunt. Go somewhere you know there are jackrabbits and put the collar on him turn it up to "light the grass under him" when he's trashing zap him until he stops and chase him back to the truck. If it makes him shy on pigs rest him for a fortnight or so and then reintroduce him to them.
Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: jdt on March 09, 2014, 09:01:28 pm i agree , burn his ass on a rabbitt and then put him on hogs and give him lots of encouragement !
Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: T-Bob Parker on March 09, 2014, 10:00:49 pm Shock him. Anything else just reinforces the bad behaviour. He will still hunt. Go somewhere you know there are jackrabbits and put the collar on him turn it up to "light the grass under him" when he's trashing zap him until he stops and chase him back to the truck. If it makes him shy on pigs rest him for a fortnight or so and then reintroduce him to them. How long is a fortnight? 20 days? Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: Black Smith on March 10, 2014, 01:05:23 am Once they find hogs own there own then you are better off breaking them ASAP be cause it get harder the more you allow it!!!
Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: Reuben on March 10, 2014, 04:38:34 am just drop him out where there is fresh hog sign or turn him in to the dogs that struck a pig...after a couple of times of that turn him out on rabbits and let him learn how bad a jack rabbit can be...
Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: aussie black mouth curs on March 10, 2014, 04:58:45 am Shock him. Anything else just reinforces the bad behaviour. He will still hunt. Go somewhere you know there are jackrabbits and put the collar on him turn it up to "light the grass under him" when he's trashing zap him until he stops and chase him back to the truck. If it makes him shy on pigs rest him for a fortnight or so and then reintroduce him to them. How long is a fortnight? 20 days? serious?? a cricket team plus two.... ;D 14 Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: T-Bob Parker on March 10, 2014, 09:28:29 pm Shock him. Anything else just reinforces the bad behaviour. He will still hunt. Go somewhere you know there are jackrabbits and put the collar on him turn it up to "light the grass under him" when he's trashing zap him until he stops and chase him back to the truck. If it makes him shy on pigs rest him for a fortnight or so and then reintroduce him to them. How long is a fortnight? 20 days? serious?? a cricket team plus two.... ;D 14 Sorry, we americans stopped saying fortnight when powdered wigs and wooden teeth went out of vogue! :laugh: ;D Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: Rick B on March 10, 2014, 09:40:48 pm I let them pups and young dogs hunt what ever they won't. They will figure out what you won't them to do soon enough. If it becomes a problem then they will get some shock therapy.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: Goose87 on March 16, 2014, 09:39:35 pm I wouldn't do anything until he has found more hogs or the trashing becomes more and more common. I then would put a shock collar on him at the house for a week or so to get him used to it then take him hunting as normal. As soon as you know for certain he is trashing give him a little tickle with the shocker. I would try it on low setting first then get hotter if needed. And don't say anything to him as he is trashing make him think that off game is what is " tickling" him. Good luck
Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: Bo Pugh on March 16, 2014, 10:05:58 pm I would not shock one of my 1 yr old dogs . I think it's good for a young dog to want to run anything they come across. It teaches them to when you let them out it's hunt time you don't want them thinking when you let them out their fixen to get their ass burnt. I would let them run whatever until I though they knew they really wasn't suppose to be running trash. And a lot of dogs will quit running whatever and focus on what their suppose to be running with a little maturity. I'm no great dog trainer by any means but all the super dogs I have seen were trashy at 1 yr old.
Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: barlow on March 17, 2014, 08:05:07 am Like several of these guys mentioned . . make it easy to do the right thing and difficult to do the wrong thing. Works in most cases.
I had a young Plott once that wouldn't stop running deer. This was years ago and I couldn't afford an E-collar if I'd ever even heard of them. I went to an old timer who lived up the road from me. Guy was one eyed and in his eighties. He told me that he'd had a similar problem many years before. What he did was stop on the side of the road and pick up a deer carcass. He brought it home and cut it up, then allowed it to ripen and rot for a few more days. When all was ready he took the head and part of a ham and put it in a 55 gallon drum and forced the deer running dog inside with the putrid meat. Then he twisted the lid on and locked the dog in before taking the barrel to the top of a nearby hill that had recently been clear cut. When he rolled the barrel, dog and deer detritus over the hill the barrel began to bounce and fly and the dog began to scream and howl. It picked up speed as it went til finally it reached flat ground and struck a tree, causing the lid to shoot off and the dog to come dizzily twisting out bruised and terrified. At this point in the story the old man paused and began to belly laugh as he thought back on that day. So I asked him . . "well, did it cure the dog of running deer?" To which he replied . . "Hell no, son. Dog was totally useless, but he by God never slept in a barrel again for the rest of his life!" Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: Judge peel on March 17, 2014, 09:08:29 am Lmao good story
Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: T-Bob Parker on March 18, 2014, 04:08:50 pm Like several of these guys mentioned . . make it easy to do the right thing and difficult to do the wrong thing. Works in most cases. I had a young Plott once that wouldn't stop running deer. This was years ago and I couldn't afford an E-collar if I'd ever even heard of them. I went to an old timer who lived up the road from me. Guy was one eyed and in his eighties. He told me that he'd had a similar problem many years before. What he did was stop on the side of the road and pick up a deer carcass. He brought it home and cut it up, then allowed it to ripen and rot for a few more days. When all was ready he took the head and part of a ham and put it in a 55 gallon drum and forced the deer running dog inside with the putrid meat. Then he twisted the lid on and locked the dog in before taking the barrel to the top of a nearby hill that had recently been clear cut. When he rolled the barrel, dog and deer detritus over the hill the barrel began to bounce and fly and the dog began to scream and howl. It picked up speed as it went til finally it reached flat ground and struck a tree, causing the lid to shoot off and the dog to come dizzily twisting out bruised and terrified. At this point in the story the old man paused and began to belly laugh as he thought back on that day. So I asked him . . "well, did it cure the dog of running deer?" To which he replied . . "Hell no, son. Dog was totally useless, but he by God never slept in a barrel again for the rest of his life!" Hahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa that's the type of old fart I've always loved playing a good game of dominoes with! Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: wildchild on March 19, 2014, 05:56:46 pm Let him hunt. After he has been on a few more pigs with lots of praise I would start working on the jack rabbit issues. But then again I got a bunch of dillo dogs I'm still trying to get lined out. X2 Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: Reuben on March 19, 2014, 06:45:46 pm Like several of these guys mentioned . . make it easy to do the right thing and difficult to do the wrong thing. Works in most cases. x2... first a few bays in a pen and a few staged hunts if possible... then just turn the young dogs out to a bay or on top of fresh hog sign... once they know what a hog is then break them at home with fresh deer scent and a shocking collar or a cattle prod... just take the path of least resistance... Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: Mpbarrs on March 20, 2014, 03:19:40 am Call me
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: Justified on April 02, 2014, 04:40:07 pm I personally love a trashy pup, they almost always turn out. I'd wait till she has a couple dozen pigs under her belt before I'd consider zapping her. Have you tried verbally disciplining her? Start at the kennels/yard, where she knows the routine. Turn her out and let her run. When she start messing with something disciplining her, yell, make it traumatic using a certain command and most importantly IMO, tone.If my dogs here "get out!" they get away from whatever they're near. You must reward her with equal if not more praise. I always talk to my dogs at the house, turn em all out and let them interact and learn my behaviors as much as I do theirs. It's worked well for grisly pups that like to think they're top dog.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Young dogs trashing Post by: Reuben on April 02, 2014, 05:38:33 pm I personally love a trashy pup, they almost always turn out. I'd wait till she has a couple dozen pigs under her belt before I'd consider zapping her. Have you tried verbally disciplining her? Start at the kennels/yard, where she knows the routine. Turn her out and let her run. When she start messing with something disciplining her, yell, make it traumatic using a certain command and most importantly IMO, tone.If my dogs here "get out!" they get away from whatever they're near. You must reward her with equal if not more praise. I always talk to my dogs at the house, turn em all out and let them interact and learn my behaviors as much as I do theirs. It's worked well for grisly pups that like to think they're top dog. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk good post...the tone is very important as you said...they really pay attention to a deep tone... |