Title: Leg catchers. Post by: dodgegirl on April 14, 2014, 11:23:54 am Alright guys, here's the story.
There's a very heated post on Facebook talking about dogs that catch the legs of hogs. The guy is claiming that it's the safest way for a hog to be caught & that they aren't culls. Now in my opinion I want my dog to catch the ear & the ear only! I feel that my dogs have the most control when they are caught on the ear. I have no use for a "catch dog" that goes for the leg. What do you guys think? No right or wrong answer just want some opinions. Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: joshlvg on April 14, 2014, 11:38:11 am had a dog catch one by the leg a few weeks ago. Hog was around 200-250 it sat on his head and went to cutting the dog in the stomach luckily I was right there. He fine but would rather him catch by ear or nose, he usually will but hog was running and he took what he could get I guess.
Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: Curcross1987 on April 14, 2014, 11:42:29 am If a bulldog catches leg more than not he gets culled his job is to controll the hog he can't controll it on a leg
Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: BA-IV on April 14, 2014, 12:00:56 pm A leg catching bulldog is a good way to ruin future Barr hogs, and that's unacceptable.
Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: justincorbell on April 14, 2014, 12:17:10 pm A leg catching bulldog is a good way to ruin future Barr hogs, and that's unacceptable. not exactly what I was gonna say but it is along the same lines. A leg catcher for guys that catch and release is a cull, a hog with chewed up ears is alot better off than a hog with chewed up legs. I don't have the places to catch and release personally so it really doesn't make a difference to me. do I want a cd to catch the leg or nose, nope but if it happens it happens. Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: sandbank slayer on April 14, 2014, 12:59:53 pm Ya can't see me wanting to leg a hog that has a bulldog hanging on to the same leg. We've had 1 or 2 but we don't keep em. Seems the best way for a dog to control a hog is by the ear. I don't want my CD taking getting killed, but I defiantly don't want a strike dog getting killed. If he's on the ear it seems like the he takes the brunt of the beatings, that's what he's there for. Last thing we want is my CD on the leg and a cur on the ear.
Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: Bo Pugh on April 14, 2014, 02:41:07 pm ive seen quiet a few leg catchers over the last few years and have had no other choice than to have to use them a time or two to get me by while hunting until can be replaced. and i do not like them. like said before if your catching to barr or to relocate or whatever you sure dont want any leg catchers but if i was going to just go up and kill the hog as soon as i got there i really dont care where they are caught at as long as they dont let it go and they really take way more of a beating when they are caught on the leg than on the head. but to each his own
Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: T-Bob Parker on April 14, 2014, 03:32:57 pm Leg catching is even being debated as acceptable??
Give me a list of the great leg catchers who made it to retirement, ill wait... Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: mdj Hoggers on April 14, 2014, 03:41:06 pm I've never had one catch leg had one catch balls one time but that was it it seems they would get hurt worse on the leg than the head to me jmo
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: Nannyslayer on April 14, 2014, 03:47:06 pm I've never had one catch leg had one catch balls one time but that was it it seems they would get hurt worse on the leg than the head to me jmo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I have a Catahoula that catches em by the balls. He's never had a scratch put on him, but one of these days I'm sure he will get it. I guess he started catching that way, because usually both ears on the boar are already occupied. ;D Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: mdj Hoggers on April 14, 2014, 05:32:07 pm Yeah my buddy Bobby Haneline has a half catahoula half dogo and that's all she catches
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: Kid7 on April 14, 2014, 05:41:08 pm Leg catching is even being debated as acceptable?? That's wat I'm thinking? I don't mind if my FRIENDS cur dogs catch on either front leg if both ears are taken tho cus then the hog is pretty close to immobilized lol but I can't deal with a bulldog catching a leg, cus I run loose curs that will not catch with the bulldog, and sometimes I only run one bulldog. And I won't leg a hog unless there's a dog on an ear. Give me a list of the great leg catchers who made it to retirement, ill wait... Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: Reuben on April 14, 2014, 06:27:15 pm usually a bulldog that catches on the rear leg will not live long...at least not on toothy boars...
Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: Hog Dog Mike on April 14, 2014, 09:17:14 pm My buddy had a dog that would catch on the front leg between the shoulder and the elbow joint. He never got cut.
Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: slckhunter1978 on April 14, 2014, 09:45:02 pm I had one doing that. He stayed cut up bad and I lost alot of hogs with him. When I seen what he was doing he was culled! Not acceptable here!
Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: reatj81 on April 14, 2014, 10:01:49 pm Leg catching is even being debated as acceptable?? That's a cull, either figure out the ear pretty fast or good by Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: KevinN on April 15, 2014, 07:46:41 am If you are strictly catching and killing.....
A dog that always goes ear AND a dog that always goes leg....to me....would be acceptable. Just let the ear dog go about 5-10 yards ahead of the leg dog. All that being said....most peoples curs/hounds will catch leg after the bulldog gets there....so....there's really not a need for that kinda CD. Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: t-dog on April 15, 2014, 10:38:14 am My experiences have taught me several reasons why a legging catchdog of any breed is a no-no. 1) Your lead strike/bay dog is gonna be the pin cushion it when tries to help 2) if it's the only dog caught, the hog isn't under control and most likely cutting the dog to the unprotected vitals area, 3) every dog I have seen that would not go to the head where the fight is was either unable to think when excited or was not game, when they did have to sacrifice themselves they couldn't take it 4) it's a lot harder to throw a hog of any size when you are fighting over a back leg with a catchdog and if he re-grips you just might get bit by accident too and 5) when a dog catches to an area where it's tooth to bone, they usually get their teeth broke or knocked out pretty quick plus their strongest grip is in a much more closed mouth position than they have in this circumstance. JMO
Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: justincorbell on April 15, 2014, 10:41:45 am Leg catching is even being debated as acceptable?? Give me a list of the great leg catchers who made it to retirement, ill wait... im a leg catcher......haven't made it to retirement yet but I have thought about retiring a time or two hahaha ;D Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: dodgegirl on April 15, 2014, 11:34:11 am This post on Facebook was just between dogo owners. If one of my dogos went in and only caught the leg, it wouldn't be in my yard after that hunt.
Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: Goose87 on April 15, 2014, 01:53:55 pm Catching on the ear ( or head in general ) is a tried and true old time tested method that the pioneers of this sport looked for in a dog WAY before any of us on here was born. I guess it's all just in your opinion and taste in dogs if you consider it acceptable . IMO the ones who are arguing the fact that it's acceptable are just trying to make excuses for their dogs, I could be wrong. I strongly believe that if it wasn't their dogs then the tables would be turned and they would be the ones saying it's unacceptable. I believe what it all boils down to is someone is just to stubborn to swallow their own pride and accept that they have leg catching dogs, but in the end who am I to judge another mans dogs when he is the one who has to feed, care for, and go in behind them. To each his own I guess.
Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: jagdtank on April 15, 2014, 02:25:24 pm I have a buddy who has a pit he's real proud of that hesitates before he catches then he almost always goes under hog and catches front armpit on opposite side (so long as the hog doesn't bust while he hesitates).it locks the hog down but as was already said the good strike dogs are left with an ear and get cut down.Its also alot harder to flip a big hog because dogs pull and weight are against it. I hunt on foot and am severely winded alot when i get to bay, so i don't have a lot of oomph left when i get there....this happens nearly every time we go and its got cutters, pit never gets cut. i had my dogs cut up bad this winter because of it. I've got my own bulldogs now so thats that but it's just a nice feeling to have a bull dog per ear when climbing into a brush pile or crawling in to thickets.I will use whats available but I too prefer ear.That head is where the danger is,it needs to be controlled. Im a little chicken on a boar but most times with a bulldog on each ear i dont even feel threatened at all.
Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: justincorbell on April 15, 2014, 02:27:58 pm Catching on the ear ( or head in general ) is a tried and true old time tested method that the pioneers of this sport looked for in a dog WAY before any of us on here was born. I guess it's all just in your opinion and taste in dogs if you consider it acceptable . IMO the ones who are arguing the fact that it's acceptable are just trying to make excuses for their dogs, I could be wrong. I strongly believe that if it wasn't their dogs then the tables would be turned and they would be the ones saying it's unacceptable. I believe what it all boils down to is someone is just to stubborn to swallow their own pride and accept that they have leg catching dogs, but in the end who am I to judge another mans dogs when he is the one who has to feed, care for, and go in behind them. To each his own I guess. very good post Goose. I agree with you 100% especially with what I highlighted in red Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: mdj Hoggers on April 15, 2014, 02:28:51 pm My bull dog catches ear most the time if not the the jaw if no ears I would think that they could get hurt much worse on jaw than ear also
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: justincorbell on April 15, 2014, 02:32:09 pm My bull dog catches ear most the time if not the the jaw if no ears I would think that they could get hurt much worse on jaw than ear also Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree with that too. I've seen a couple buldogs catch on the jaw just to watch the hog bite them on the jaw as well, in front of the eyes is not a good place to be on a pissed off hog! Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: T-Bob Parker on April 15, 2014, 02:41:54 pm My bull dog catches ear most the time if not the the jaw if no ears I would think that they could get hurt much worse on jaw than ear also Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree with that too. I've seen a couple buldogs catch on the jaw just to watch the hog bite them on the jaw as well, in front of the eyes is not a good place to be on a pissed off hog! Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: mdj Hoggers on April 15, 2014, 02:42:19 pm I would think on a good toothy boar that's where a jaw catcher would get wrecked by the top teeth
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: mdj Hoggers on April 15, 2014, 02:47:53 pm My bull dog catches ear most the time if not the the jaw if no ears I would think that they could get hurt much worse on jaw than ear also Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree with that too. I've seen a couple buldogs catch on the jaw just to watch the hog bite them on the jaw as well, in front of the eyes is not a good place to be on a pissed off hog! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: BA-IV on April 15, 2014, 02:50:06 pm My bull dog catches ear most the time if not the the jaw if no ears I would think that they could get hurt much worse on jaw than ear also Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree with that too. I've seen a couple buldogs catch on the jaw just to watch the hog bite them on the jaw as well, in front of the eyes is not a good place to be on a pissed off hog! Good luck T-Bob...she will never so much as get a scratch cuz you are trying to get her a lesson! Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: T-Bob Parker on April 15, 2014, 03:11:24 pm My bull dog catches ear most the time if not the the jaw if no ears I would think that they could get hurt much worse on jaw than ear also Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree with that too. I've seen a couple buldogs catch on the jaw just to watch the hog bite them on the jaw as well, in front of the eyes is not a good place to be on a pissed off hog! Good luck T-Bob...she will never so much as get a scratch cuz you are trying to get her a lesson! You know it! Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: Hunt the Grunt on April 15, 2014, 03:47:40 pm My bull dog catches ear most the time if not the the jaw if no ears I would think that they could get hurt much worse on jaw than ear also Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree with that too. I've seen a couple buldogs catch on the jaw just to watch the hog bite them on the jaw as well, in front of the eyes is not a good place to be on a pissed off hog! Good luck T-Bob...she will never so much as get a scratch cuz you are trying to get her a lesson! You know it! My buddy had a bulldog that use to always catch snout. He caught a good boar one night and his cutter went through the roof of the dogs mouth. He was stuck and couldn't let go if he wanted to. Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: justincorbell on April 15, 2014, 03:56:51 pm My bull dog catches ear most the time if not the the jaw if no ears I would think that they could get hurt much worse on jaw than ear also Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree with that too. I've seen a couple buldogs catch on the jaw just to watch the hog bite them on the jaw as well, in front of the eyes is not a good place to be on a pissed off hog! Good luck T-Bob...she will never so much as get a scratch cuz you are trying to get her a lesson! typical woman........... ;D :o :laugh: Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: mdj Hoggers on April 15, 2014, 11:51:46 pm My bull dog catches ear most the time if not the the jaw if no ears I would think that they could get hurt much worse on jaw than ear also Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree with that too. I've seen a couple buldogs catch on the jaw just to watch the hog bite them on the jaw as well, in front of the eyes is not a good place to be on a pissed off hog! Good luck T-Bob...she will never so much as get a scratch cuz you are trying to get her a lesson! You know it! My buddy had a bulldog that use to always catch snout. He caught a good boar one night and his cutter went through the roof of the dogs mouth. He was stuck and couldn't let go if he wanted to. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: Hunt the Grunt on April 16, 2014, 07:07:56 am My bull dog catches ear most the time if not the the jaw if no ears I would think that they could get hurt much worse on jaw than ear also Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree with that too. I've seen a couple buldogs catch on the jaw just to watch the hog bite them on the jaw as well, in front of the eyes is not a good place to be on a pissed off hog! Good luck T-Bob...she will never so much as get a scratch cuz you are trying to get her a lesson! You know it! My buddy had a bulldog that use to always catch snout. He caught a good boar one night and his cutter went through the roof of the dogs mouth. He was stuck and couldn't let go if he wanted to. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk No, He was barely alive when they got him off and he died in the front floorboard on the way to the vet. He was cut up pretty bad as well. Title: Re: Leg catchers. Post by: mdj Hoggers on April 17, 2014, 12:34:15 am My bull dog catches ear most the time if not the the jaw if no ears I would think that they could get hurt much worse on jaw than ear also Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree with that too. I've seen a couple buldogs catch on the jaw just to watch the hog bite them on the jaw as well, in front of the eyes is not a good place to be on a pissed off hog! Good luck T-Bob...she will never so much as get a scratch cuz you are trying to get her a lesson! You know it! My buddy had a bulldog that use to always catch snout. He caught a good boar one night and his cutter went through the roof of the dogs mouth. He was stuck and couldn't let go if he wanted to. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk No, He was barely alive when they got him off and he died in the front floorboard on the way to the vet. He was cut up pretty bad as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |