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HOG & DOGS => GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: BIG CHRIS on April 22, 2014, 10:46:26 am



Title: cops and dogs!
Post by: BIG CHRIS on April 22, 2014, 10:46:26 am
My friends dog was murdered by our local rains county deputy. Go support candys page. Read the storey and watch the video cole middleton shot while talking to the officers. This the kinda stuff our law enforecement officers are capable of. Cole and his family own and opperate a local dairy, and cole runs our local buying station for the hogs we catch. His house was robbed and he called 911, just to have the local county cop murder his dog.

Here is the link to the page for poor candy.

https://m.facebook.com/?_rdr#!https://m.facebook.com/profile.php? id=1414982708766848&refid=18


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: halfbreed on April 22, 2014, 12:36:01 pm
  your link doesn't work chris .


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: S_J_KENNELS on April 22, 2014, 03:18:39 pm
Sad to hear about the dog, but don't lump all cops in that bunch. I make my living as a  popo I know some who will shoot a dog on sight and I argue with them myself lol.


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Post by: Purebreedcolt on April 22, 2014, 07:11:13 pm
I couldnt see it but a neighbor posted it on facebook

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Title: Re: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: Fixitlouie on April 22, 2014, 07:16:03 pm
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/23/aze8e6e3.jpg) that's why I say law dog don't go around here

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Title: Re: Re: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: Fixitlouie on April 22, 2014, 07:17:01 pm
Sad to hear about the dog, but don't lump all cops in that bunch. I make my living as a  popo I know some who will shoot a dog on sight and I argue with them myself lol.
your cool sj....its all the others..lol

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Post by: jon on April 23, 2014, 12:36:39 pm
I won't watch the video, hate seeing something like that, but I did like and share on fb

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Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: sterling on April 24, 2014, 09:28:58 am
FYI - the story got picked up by The Blaze - http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/23/texas-farmer-calls-police-to-report-a-break-in-when-a-deputy-arrived-hours-later-his-nightmare-began/


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: charles on April 24, 2014, 10:42:09 am
SOOOOO-WEEEEEE, here pig pig pig.


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on April 24, 2014, 11:16:57 am
That was absolutely heartbreaking hearing that grown man cry over the unjustified loss of his dog. Just terrible. Completely unwarranted in this case. And the necropsy even proves that! The dog was shot while turned AWAY from the deputy!

Now I can respect LEO's, and I respect the fact that if they are being legitimately charged by an AGGRESSIVE dog, they have to do what they have to do. But CLEARLY there are a good amount of officers that do NOT understand what the sign of an aggressive dog is. He can use deadly force and SHOOT the dog, but he couldn't have MACED him instead???

I'd d*mn sure be suing that department....

There needs to be more education to officers on canine behavior. Seriously. Clearly they will likely encounter canines on a daily basis, so this is something that would certainly be worth while.


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: jagdtank on April 24, 2014, 12:49:55 pm
there is no justification for them shooting someones dog unless its a raid or something like that. if the guys neighbor pulled up and shot his dog on his own property he would have went to jail for a felony. I cant think of anything else that makes me madder than the way cops are getting so out of control with unlimited power.


Title: Story made Drudge Report
Post by: Amokabs on April 24, 2014, 12:58:41 pm
It's gettin out of control with this militatization of the police force. It's gonna lead to innocent people killed. U imagine, being a regular, law abiding, got to work and come home type, have someone bust your door in. Whether they are yelling "POLICE" or not, u know u havent committed any crimes and you are gonna treat it as a home invasion. And all the Police have to do is get the wrong info from some riffraff drug informant or got to the wrong address. We are living in the end times,, world's going topsy turvey


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on April 24, 2014, 05:35:33 pm
They need to start reminding them that their job is to ENFORCE the law, not be above it.


Title: Re: Story made Drudge Report
Post by: southtexasff on April 24, 2014, 06:59:19 pm
And all the Police have to do is get the wrong info from some riffraff drug informant or got to the wrong address. We are living in the end times,, world's going topsy turvey
Thats all the police have to do to get a search warrant signed?? Seems like you need to do a little more research...


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: Amokabs on April 24, 2014, 07:52:49 pm
Sorry, but i've seen several instances where police have gone to the wrong address and busted in doors. Not sure if the judge research's the address before he signs on the line or if he just goes along, but i'm pretty sure I aint the only one who's seen stories of police going to the wrong address. And it may be someone reads the address incorrectly after the judge signs on the line,, i aint sure,  but it happens, just like police shoot people's dogs.


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: dodgegirl on April 24, 2014, 08:27:31 pm
Wow, just wow. That broke my heart. That poor man had to drown his dog because she was suffering. I would have lost my damn mind. I 100% back up police officers & will not bad mouth one. Matter of fact I want to be one, but lately I have seen a lot of non agressive dogs getting shot.


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: charles on April 24, 2014, 08:35:10 pm
Iv seen incidents were the police accidently raided the wrong house. It was suppose to the the house across the street. They didnt get their actual criminal AND said, sorry, out mistake, but we r still not replacing the door n other stuff they destroyed. Home owners coverage didnt cover it either so they had to fix the screw ups of the police out of their own pocket.

Not all cops or units are bad, but when u got a couple rotten bacon slabs in the fridge, it puts a horrible view on the rest.

Po pos r to enforce n uphold the law, not place theirselves above it or brake it to uphold it. That tin star aint a do what i want n get away with it badge. It could end being somethng much worse


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: Amokabs on April 24, 2014, 09:23:31 pm
Amen Charles, i've had to scrub emergancy surgeries on fallen LEO's and it'll break your heart knowing some POS  wounded (and in a few cases i worked on) killed  a LEO.  highest respect for that fraternity. But there sure are allotta reports of LEO's just shooting people's pets when there certainly were alternatives.


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on April 24, 2014, 09:26:15 pm
The officer who shot the dog has been fired!
http://www.kltv.com/story/25332713/rains-co-deputy-who-shot-dog-terminated-on-thursday#.U1m3JPLfEp0.facebook


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: Shotgun wg on April 24, 2014, 10:02:43 pm
My question is dogs have been a part of life here forever. Why is it in the last 10 years cops decided they needed to shot them all the time. I think there are far to many cops with the lil man complex trying to show how bad they are. I believe the way the departments just shrug it off has emboldens them to do it more often. The police word is the law and u are beneath them. Sad part is it's gonna get worse before it gets better.


Shotgun
Arkansas


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: jagdtank on April 24, 2014, 10:24:41 pm
good deal! he should be charged with a crime.I was raised to respect cops but I've seen way to much. first off they are mostly nerds who want to be tuff.(especially rural ones)local cops here all tattooed "band of brothers"on them,what dorks! I was falsely arrested by a cop just like this.(I got him fired) had to spend 24 hours in jail first and pay a lawyer.  when my wife and i first got married I happened to look over and a cop was peeping tom on us and i got up and went to the door opened it and they shoved past me and searched my house despite my protest. wrong address.during joplin tornado cops beat a friend real bad who is a deacon in his church. handcuffed and pistol whipped him after although he didnt resist. (they thought he was a looter) then told him he didn't want to get in a pissing match with them so keep his mouth shut or they would have him in prison.I got picked up when I was seventeen for a unpaid ticket the cop ruffed me up in a suite on my way home from church with a bible on the dash. when another cop came to help him search my truck He took off his wide receiver type gloves and slapped his buddy high five and said "bagged him and tagged him!" my brother in law braggs about beating drunks constantly. actually every cop i know is like that.thats what kind are attracted to be a police anymore because shows like cops. serving their fellow man has nothing to do with it. it's just a desire for power and action. I have no tolerance for them. I have never comitted a serious crime and obey the as much law as I know. And the bad experiences I've just named are just a few I've witnessed. It's a wonder more arent shot. I'm not advocating that but I say no tolerance for lawless government employees. they have far to much power. more roofers get killed than cops per year. they deserve to be treated like heros when they act like one but otherwise they get payed for their job by us and should be held accountable to the highest degree.he should have been arrested for shooting the dog.I honest to goodness don't know what i'de do if someone started doing something like that to my property no respect at all. belongs in prison.


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: charles on April 25, 2014, 12:30:43 am
Well thats good news he was fired. Hopefully charges will brought up on him and he is found guilty of animal cruelty with a firearm and he can nvr posess a firearm again and he goes to prison n is put in gen pop.
Unfortunately, that bad apple has given that sheriffs dept a black eye and the other honest deputies unfortunately hav to put up with the name mud bc of 1 turd head. Hopefully this will be an eye opener for the state and local dept to adopt or empliment a training program on how to halt a supposed aggressive dog. To many times have dogs (non aggressive) been killed and that excuse of it showed aggression has been used.


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: WayOutWest on April 25, 2014, 11:22:42 am
That's one situation that would show how chicken schat a cop is if he was wearing one of those cameras. Pretty hard to make up a story when it is filmed!


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: Hutch33 on April 25, 2014, 12:30:23 pm
There's a time and place to deal with an aggressive dog.  I don't understand why this cop didn't get the owners attention to get his dog under control. Or just wait. That was her property, and she was doing her job. Common sense stuff. And to call that farmer "Buddy" after shooting his dog had to have been punch in the gut.


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: Shotgun wg on April 25, 2014, 09:57:50 pm
I'm with u on the buddy comment. I ain't his buddy I'm his boss. I will call him sir if he is doing his job. He will show me the same respect. I had a run in with a county cop like him one evening. By time it was over the sheriff and he was apologizing. In person because I wouldn't accept it over the phone.


Shotgun
Arkansas


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: pblenis on April 25, 2014, 11:05:57 pm
There are good LEO's and bad LEO's.  The good ones that defend, and allow the bad ones to stay around, are 99% of the problem. 

As for this article, it's complete crap.  The deputy in question needs a beating plain and simple.  Any grown man that has to shoot what looks like a 55 lbs dog is a 100% slang word for a cat.

This is happening way to often, cops are seldom charged or punished.  Glad to see this one lost his job.  No one that trigger happy should be allowed to own a gun.

I'd also like to know how the LEO's would have reacted if a suspect/citizen tried that excuse after shooting a police K9, "oooooh but i was scared it was going to attack me".  when a situation doesn't apply both ways, that's called horsepoop.



Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: Amokabs on April 26, 2014, 10:09:47 pm
I just dont get it,, do the police forces not train police officers that a dog will usually protect his territory, esp when a stranger shows up with all the gear they carry on their service belts,, and that there are better alternatives than discharging a firearm?


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on April 27, 2014, 11:06:20 am
Mace would be an acceptable, NON LETHAL way of deterring a dog if they're that scared. In most cases though, seems as though a dog barking alerting his owners to strangers  = an aggressive dog that wants to maul you nowadays.  rolleyes

Here's another example. Notice the footage of the bulldog happily mingling with the children of various ages in the backround.

Idiot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgH0Oy3z1vo


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: charles on April 27, 2014, 11:15:27 am
can you say DUMBA$$!!!? who the hell aloud an idiot like that to carry a gun, let along have a job where he is to know right from wrong and to defend and serve the people. to bad his head wasn't under that particular foot, could have solved several issues at the same time, and that goes for the dipchit int he suite, he should go play in traffic on the I5, play a lil chicken with a loaded semi tck


Title: Re: cops and dogs!
Post by: tuskbuster on May 11, 2014, 10:42:41 am
looks like a littl;e justice but not enough IMO
http://www.kltv.com/story/25476446/former-rains-co-deputy-indicted-on-animal-cruelty-charge-after-shooting-dog?utm_content=bufferb1a85&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer