EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

So I have a question. I am new to this sport so just curious. Why would anyone bar a hog and cut both ears off? I almost lost my two best dogs due to this incident. Went to a new place and struck a hog. Went 680 yards and start running in and hear a loud yelp. Cut bull dogs loose around 120 yards and then hell breaks loose. The two bull dogs caught him run to bay and notice a few dogs missing that are usually there. Here landowner yell this black dog is not going to make it. Get pig hobbled and look around and my two best dogs are cut pretty bad. Look at the boar and notice no ears and barred. He only weighed 205 but had some nice cutters. Ended up saving both dogs. But my question is why do people do this?

Some people feel like this is a good way to cut the competition down, especially when they run loose bay dogs. I would think it would be directed towards the guys that may be slipping in on places they have no right to be hunting.

Them no earred Barr hogs are a double edged sword, they're bad on everyone's dogs including the person doing the cutting.

If the hogs ears were in poor condition when he was turned loose then infection could have been the reason for loosing his ears. Even people with loose bay dogs have to catch the pig again. I cant see anyone actually wanting an earless barr in the woods, but people do strange things.

You can always tell whether a slick headed Barr was done that way intentionally or by dogs.  If the ears were mangled they'd heal and rot uneven and jagged as stumps, an even smooth cut is for sure an intentional thing.

If you have a bay dog rough enough to grab a 205 lb barr hog my guess is this wont be the last time you get cut down. 

Ears or not.

Rough and catchy dogs are rough and catchy dogs no matter ears or no ears! No telling where he or how he lost his ears or where he was barred. Have caught  a few over the years with no ears or one ear, and no dogs cut, just saying.

Hoghunterx2 agreed

yea i would say most of the time the no eared hogs are done by the dogs.

In my opinion it one man mad at another for one reason or another. U can also be sure it wasn't the guy that hunts next door.


Shotgun
Arkansas

Because they're idiots.  Plain and simple.  there's no need and no point in doing it.  Glad your dogs made it through. 

Somebody's bay pen hog got loose...

Paul m. Hey there buddy. Lol

Agree with most comments already said.  The only true reason I could see for this would be...

A non hog hunting land owner or deer lease member has hog hunters trespassing on land.  He figures a sure enough way to keep hunters out is trap a hog, barr it (so he can later shoot it for meat) and cut the ears off, makig it harder to catch and a bit more dangerous.  He may figure that the tresappasers may decide to hunt somewhere else.  Not saying I completely agree with this scenario-but it makes sense.  Landowner or lease member not wanting dogs in the area gets a two for one if the hog hunters leave and he shoots the barr years later.

That's probly what it is

Exactly what I was thinkin

The ears for sure looked like they where cut off. Slick right at the head. Land owner was with us and was pretty pissed.  Said there are a few guys who dog around there and have a real bad rep. He said he bet they trespassed on him. Said if he ever catches them won't be good. But yes I have some real ruff dogs. I have one real loose baying dog. She is my best but she got cut as well. So it was kinda weird seeing her cut up. They are doing great though. Thank you

Lamber14 how long have u been hunting with dogs just curious.

If you or anyone else turns bulldogs loose at a 120 yards and have no clue what you have bayed your not very smart in my opinion!  The bull dog is not meant to be the hero he is there to help you catch the hog.  Almost any dog is going to get in there after the bull dog if your slow or scared ass is not right behind your bull dog which ever one is the case just my opinion. I've been hunting over twenty years and only lost a couple of bay dogs.

To the bone  I agree for the most part but I do let my cd go from much further

I don't understand why you would without knowing what you were turning loose on, I have seen some bad wrecks because of that!

Judge peel u ain't right. Lol

Sometimes I send my bulldog a lot farther than I usually do or let em run just depends on if that place is known for runners or a smaller piece of land than I'm use to I know when they bark its a hog that's it no doubt about it

I don't care what pig is there my goal and my dogs goal is to catch the pig I know the places I hunt very well lot of times I don't even have to look at the GPS. Now if I am in a spot where there is live stock I will get as close as I can I ain't in the best of shape and getting up in age for a young guy but I can cover a lot of ground in a short time and my boys are bout as fast as the dogs most of my dogs catch on the spot so that is the reason. If i got a bay 1/2 mile away and it's a loose dog no hurry if I got a rough dog sitting down with a loose dog you best beleave I will send him fast as I can

I have let mine go from north of 600

To the bone if you walk up to a bay and there is a big boar handing it to your dogs are you not going to let the dog go or something not trying to start any thing just asking cuz mine is going on what ever it is and I will be right behind him

Cut his ass loose.  Wait make shure he's got both ears. Lol

To answer some questions as I stated in the original post I am new to the sport. I personally have only been hunting with dogs for about year and a half. But I have been hunting with some seasoned doggers for a little bit. And yes I was behind my catch dog. I am in pretty good shape and running is no problem for me unlike some  other hunters. So 120 yds no problem for me to run. Was right behind the bull dog due to why he had to run through. Was behind him about ten seconds. So let the criticism continue. But as I said new to the game but have caught plenty by my self. I have had some great mentors. But for the future try helping new hunters instead of down grading. It will make the sport continue for years. Again never said I was better or experienced. Thanks guys. God Bless!

You sound like a good young man and yes good mentors are good no matter the age the key is beleave to achieve and that's in life as a general rule in life

Good job Lambert of catching him.glad the cd got there to help the rough dogs out.

Yes sir. Thank you. I am still wet behind the ears at this. So I might ask some dumb questions. But better to ask and get criticized then not ask at all. God Bless.

Slow are scared ass what? Some people on this site crack me up. Been on this site for the past few years and every post can be traced to a few that just run everyone down. I for the life of me don't understand this. New people that just started, asking for advise and pointers turns into someone being a idiot are pansy. Anyways enough of that. As to this post, different people have different styles of hunting. If you have a bull dog that you can turn lose at 600 yards good for you. If you like to walk in to were you can see him and SEE WHAT YOUR LOOKING AT, good for you. That's your style and your the one that feeds that dog and changes there water and pulls the money out to care for that dog. Much respect to you guys on here that have been doing this for years. It's a hell of a sport and not everyone can do it, don't believe me take a first timer and get to a bay and watch what happens. Seen some big boys turn into little girls on a big one. But because there style differs from yours doesn't meen there dumb butts. Me and my brother hunt a rough pack of dogs and turning a bull dog lose period almost doesn't happen to be honest with you. Most of the times They are already caught but at 120 when we do need them does that really seem to far  to the bone. Are did we
Just get lucky and get a set of super bull dogs. Highly doubt it. I've heard and seen several people doing this. Again our style our dogs. Guess we need to hit the track bro 4,4 40 isn't fast enough. And need to stop being scared of these SCARY HOGS. Cracks me up. What a joke. Get off the internet and into the woods.

Lol I don't think my truck can put down 4.4 40 only time I get scared is when my phone is ringing at 3 am and says momma and I ain't home yet ouch

Lambert14 u actually asked a question in your post witch was asked the proper  way on the other hand your partner M Bennet posted the same number 2 and started calling out a SOB when he don't have a clue who did it. I'm sure these threads r connected just in different sections. Just to avoid all the smart ass replies b carefull of what u say or ask cause there r many people on here that do things u wouldn't do or don't like so thats how u get those downgrading replies.  Jmo

Judge peel I could bet your boys would smoke his ass to the bay on foot. I'll put $$$ on that

Lol they are pretty fast that got from having to beat me to mommas cooking lol

Ferris it was just a question. And yes I asked Bennett about it and he posted not aware I already posted. And for the replies on the thread, guess it just goes to show different classes of people and intelligiance.  And a foot race would be nice. Been awhile since I ran a track meet. But I will say my brother is pretty darn fast. But guess last time he has ran in a meet was when he ran In college. Good luck. And I would Of Not expected any other reply from you after reading some of your other comments on some threads. Again this all has to do with class. Good luck in the woods men. If that is what I am talking to. Sometimes  I wonder. Was just wanting to know the reason on the issue not criticism on how I hunt. Thank you.

Ive said that before.  Someone made a comment a while back that some of the folks that have ben on this site the longest were not posting much anymore.  Another person said, the reason was because the site was going down and there was too much arguing.

I don't think the site has gone down, but I agree that there are a few that enjoy putting someone else down for some reason.  Ive learned you cant take anything on here personal.  If your going to post something, be prepared for someone to argue.

Yes ferris tx were best friends.
Im and old chicken fighter and I love to bet.ill lay money on these Lambert boys.

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I fight chickens to but it's mostly at churches

Dang it judge peel. Lol

I like mine extra crispy

Well I'm still in all game playing. So let me know I don't mind taking money

I will say this our average diss on a hunt we walk hunt is around 5 to ten miles on foot these boys run for miles to a bay no buggys no wheeler or trucks then drag pigs out miles to a county rd then hump 3 plus miles to the truck go get the pig then get up and go ride horses on the ranch haul hay and what ever has to be done never crying a lick. And they don't brag not one bit. On the track is different than a creek bottom just saying

Oh Kp has ran a hog down on foot in a open field he never ran track but if he did he would probly do good my 27 yr old ran hurdles never won any first or any thing but would place and his brother is night and day faster

Ferris your the one that said you would bet money.so ill play.and I dont mean with monopoly money. Oh and could u iron my money for me.I dont like wrinkled bills and no 1 dallors all 100.hell ill even buy chicken for lunch with your money

Dam skippy judge peel. I  always said them boys of yours r one in a million. Me and paul m. R always pleased to have them hunt with us. Good job fellas

M bennet I'm sure them lambert boys make some good hands as well

Lmao. Chicken. He'll I'm a steak and bake potato man. If u want invite your friends I'll pay that's a little more than chicken.

Sounds good .

True story one time my friend and a group was hunting my flash dog and his cracker dog where bayed lil over 2 miles away. My friend is a long time hog hunter and is in tip top shape and is pretty fast and a big show off so in front of all the guys he had with him he made a bet with my boy if he got there first on foot he could have cracker and if he lost he would take my boys cowboy hat. We where 600 from my buddy's ranger we all took off them two to the bay us to the ranger. I was the first to the ranger 3 to the caught hog my boy had his cd and a back pack lets just say he gave the dog back and there are people on this site that where there

Long distance ? Count me out. What a ranger is for. But sprinting is more my game. Never been much of a distance runner. Judge peel I am sure you have some mighty fine young men. I say enough of this topic I have seen all I want to see. Let's get in the woods and stack some bacon.

Hey lambert where y'all from I am kin to some lamberts do y'all know any joe lambert or deana lambert from Waco

No I do not know them. I am from Boyd town by Decatur.

Gotcha they from Waco