EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I just got a blue catchdog an I was wondering if anybody would post pics of there blue pit and whats so great about them.

I have owned a few and have hunted behind many. I do not own a blue anymore for hog huntin. But I would be curious to see what other people's experiences have been with them.
I have found that they aren't as good to me as a catch dog compared to the rednose pit or americans. But alot of places you get your blue pits from around here are show dogs or they come from a line of show dogs . They just don't seem to have the heart to be that great catch dog you want. In my opinion of course.
They go crazy for a hog like any hog dog does but I have seen a few get banged up and turn around and leave the hog standing there with their tails tucked.

Not meaning this to discourage anyone of blues I'm just speaking my experiences and curious of others.

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Id say just like any dog as an individual.....some are good some arent.
By good buddy had one that was great. And the American Pit Bull Terrier is one breed, that has color variations. I see people refer to 'red nose' and 'american' as though they are two seperate entities and they are not. The red nose is simply a color variation within the breed. Not busting anyones chops here but I see that mistake made alot. Same with the term 'blue,' its just a color. Though often with the blue dogs, that color is more prominent in the American Staffordshire Terrier and American Bully breeds. Often mistaken for an American Pit Bull Terrier.

I'm no pit expert, but it seems the "blues" may of had some other breeds thrown into the mix ,, and that is why some folks see they have a lil less heart than other favors of pits.  To some folks on the street, color is primary importance and they'll add anything to the recipe to get blue.

Im with u its up to the dog for the most part but i do think its funny when u go to criagslist people post mixed pits with mommy being a red nose and daddy being a blue pit or blue nose to me its just a red flag saying these dogs not breed for a purpose just and just to make a quick buck. Im sure thats why pits get a bad name for human aggresion its bad breeding. I know papers mean crap when it all said and done cause ever dog is defferent but it helps to know what they are breed for eather catching ,show or other activities. All dogs need a job even if its a lap dog.

Im no pit expert either . By any means. When i reffer to that "red nose kennel" i just reffer to the color of every dog he has as being red and long legged. He calls them old family red nose i believe. Or o.f.r.n. im pretty sure he is a member on this site. I dont like to bring other folks names up. Maybe he will see this and comment. He has the nicest looking dogs ive ever seen.

Im no expert by any means. Just passionate about the breed, and ive worked with them for many many years to current. I was simply clarifying the information on the breed, as I know we have alot of folks that read here that are trying to learn that can get confused when reading this stuff.

Yeah, my head hurts when I read all the 'pit' related ads on craigslist nowadays.
Red nose, blue nose, tiger stripe, "boodro", "razor edge/gotti" (cringe)

*sigh*

I don't claim to know much at all about pitbulls EXCEPT this....... I know that I started with a pitbull....he was red and had a rednose and was one bad mamjama on a hog....does that make him a rednose???? hell I have no clue.......they are just pitbulls to me but I started with em and I will probly end with em, I like the hell out of AB's and was given an awesome male, he was just flat out too damn big for me! I have have had more than a couple pitbulls over the years of all shapes/colors and sizes and I have seen good and bad in every shape/color and size. I had a nice little blue pitbull gyp for close to 2 years......I initially said no when asked if I wanted her but it was pretty much me or put down so I gave her a shot and she worked great for me until she passed away, well mannered, hard bite and she didn't care to fight a hog, she would simply catch and hold AND she had a rather impressive nose.

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Nice dogs guys this is my moto if it works don't knock it

Thank ya judge. And i hope i didnt come across as a smart a$$ in my posts. Honestly anybody on this site probably knows more about pit bulls than i do. I also have a red female. I just call her my little red dog and my blue one is my blue dog to folks that dont know there names...lol...i do know that blue is just a dilution of black. (So ive been told) .  All that gotties edge and razor this or shave that can stay on the streets or craigslist. But all jokes aside. My blue dog is a decent catch dog and i would trust him with anybody. He's got the best temperment. Gets along with everything but a pig and a coon. ( saw one in a trap and lost his freakin mind). Lol

I never see u coming across as anything but someone looking for information. And ms. Krystal is very modest, she's forgotten more about bulldogs than I promise, I've ever known. She knows her bulldogs. It drives me nuts also to see folks that breed for a color with no regard to function or temperament.

Georgia Hawgs- ive never ever seen any of yout posts come off as smart arse.....I always enjoy your productive topics :)
I hope that *I* do not ever come off as uppity.....as I just like to share accurate clear information pertaining to a breed im very passionate about. I know alot of confusion exists on the matter.

Amokabs- thank you for the kind words. Ive done a whole lot of listening to some great mentors to be blessed with what knowledge I do have on the breed. To this day I absord as much as i possibly can. Good stuff!

As far as the' blue dogs' go.....I do own one that was a rescue. She wants to get at our penned hog badly, but ive never bothered to try her. Shes phenominal with my kids too. I just have too many other options to utilize right now to feel a need to really put her to the test. Not sure if shed be able to hang on a long hot hunt though. Shes quite stocky and thick/bulky built.

10-4 mrs.la..... and i sure do enjoy reading and learning things i didn't know. And getting different peoples opinions on subjects. There is a crazy crazy crazy amount of good info on this site. Ive been prowling around on here since way before i became a member lol. These folks sure have a hell of a good thing with this web site .

I had a blue pit, well a blue in color, guess I should hav looked up her exact breed before calling her a blue pit, but I call them the color they are. I rescued her from the ghetto part of my area and was pulled down bad, had a bag full of milk and no puppies in sight. She wondered up to a co-workers house and wouldn't let them mess with her, so I gave it a shot and didn't have an issue putting my hands on her and getting her home. I gave her a couple weeks of r&or with plenty of feed and she got back into what she should look like. When I tried her as a catch dog, she didn't have the legs under her to keep up even in a small pen, but once she figured out what I wanted of her, she would lock on once she got there.

The best thing about knowing a few people with buckets of knowledge is you can put each way of the subject to test and find what is the best view of that knowledge. You don't have to do something for a long time to build up knowledge nor do you have to be old but the length of your teeth does mean you been chewing longer. Some people have the ability or the desire to learn pedigrees and lines and all that more power to them I ain't never been into that if it works I move on. But there are some very knowledgeable folks on here

Well, this gives me a chance to put Bambi in the spotlight. I have had her for about 2 weeks now and she is the 1st Blue pit for me to own. I have been an AB kinda guy for 10 yrs. Since getting Lola (APBT) I'm now won over with both breeds. My co-worker needed to find Bambi a home and after knowing him and hearing her story-I took her in.

She's a year old, right at 65 pounds, all muscle and the perfect height. She follows me step for step in the woods(not pulling me all over the place)
I took her on a walk with all my dogs - one at a time. My Russia gyp snapped at her and Bambi just stood by(no aggression at all) so far so good. Finally she will go out on a hunt in the morning and get her 1st woods time.

I must say, she's as much as a pit as any. Nothing makes me think she was bred for show.  All her traits point to a true working bred pit. We love her already and I'm 99.9% sure she's a natural born CD....haven't had her catch but will soon.

I'm thinking it was meant to be. As far as color, I could care less. she is a little too flashy for what I prefer-but I can look past that.

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All I know is, they weren't blue 50 years ago!!!

I may not be correct but didn't they get the blue color from the mastiff blue fighting dogs, that were used to attack soldiers in war.  Could that be why most pit attacks are from blue pits. 
I'm not saying they are all bad,  I'm just talking.   


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Yea I think Neopolitian Mastiffs....all I know, I'm so far very proud of Bambi, only if she was yella! Or black.....oh well

Various mastiff blood was crossed in the more prominent lines of the blue colored dogs of today.
The guardian breed influence could most certainly be a contributing factor to the higher number of bites.

I could be dead wrong as well. But ive always heard that blue was just a dilution of the color black. Kind of like mixing one gallon of white paint to 10 gallons of black paint..lol.. for all i know there may be truth to the whole fighting war dog mastiff thing. But im not convinced just yet. I think the wrong dogs in the wrong hands is why attacks happen. Weather the dog is any color OR BREED on the planet.  

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Paul_Terrier

http://thedangerzone.yuku.com/topic/81/t/History-of-Amstaff-Blue-APBTS.html

These articles are a little insight about where the blue color came from.  Just like the O.F.R.N . old family red nose.  

I would have to agree for the most part. I would say 8 bites out of 10 is due from the owner, not what went in to make the dog breed

my blue pit has a huge grape it looks he could be a neo mastiff but then you see he's body which is small and compact. I just got him and hes a little under weight but gaining more and more weight everday. he has a good attitude seems to know some commands might have been a house dog at one time.

I had a blue pit that would climb a 7 ft tall kennel fence then go climb the 5 ft catch pen fence and catch a hog. He was hog crazy.  He was like a cat.  Had an awesome nose to boot.

Blue has been a trait that shows up from time to time in every dog breed. The pioneers of the bulldog world culled them bc they were genetic oddities. In the pet  world they are called dapples or Maltese, even in the plot hounds you have blues. I believe there are some good blue dogs out there but I'll say this without hesitation or w/o fear if making someone mad but the majority of them are junk, yea they'll catch a hog in a pen and go nuts or act like a fool when they see one but that don't make them a CATCH DOG, that's just some bull breed who can catch game. Anybody can put on boxing gloves and step in the ring and throw some punches but does that make you a boxer ? I can count on one hand how many I would own, they seem to not have the wind, want to, mouth, and that it's me or you until one of us is dead mentality. With all that being said I'll admit to the shame that there is one on my yard, BUT he is waaaaaaaaay in the back where company can't see him and he just showed up here one day and has been named drop off ever since. I'll give him just a fair shot as any but so far I'm just not liking his catching style. Oconee heck you hardly heard of them 10-12 yrs ago much less 50 lol. Bottom line is whether your willing to go to battle with a body builder or a Navy Seal.

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Just got this guy suppose to be started other then thats all i know. Is there any way to figure he's age?

I guess my biggest fault is that I'm a HUUUGE skeptic of dogs that show traits uncommon of the old family members of their individual breed.  Silent Plotts, Reverse BMC, Open trailing Curs, Blue Pits,  Plotts with a lot of white, and the list goes on.  I know there are exceptions to all the rules but bottom line is,  if it doesn't "quack" and have webbed feet then it might not be a "duck"    By the way, I don't believe in "bigfoot" either.   LOL

Maybe i got vveerrrryyy very lucky with mine but he's as blue as the day is long and im very satisfied with him. Once he catches i don't second guess him at all. But i will say that if i had the bulldog dog i would prefer over any it would be a solid red dog with red toenails a red nose, green eyes, long legs a good jaw and a good working shape weight of 45 to 55 pounds. But until i can find one at the right price this ole blue dog will do just fine. Even if i find one this blue dog will have a place on my yard until he goes in the ground. He's barely over a year old and has earned his keep already as far as im concerned. Now my standard are probably way lower than most folks but we catch a few hogs here and there and we get by just fine. Theres probably some sho nuff bulldog folks reading this and saying ive never seen a true bulldog if im happy with this blue one. But he loads when i tell him and goes when i send him. I can send him in at a dead run and make one voice command and he will lock the brakes down and come back. I have had him since he was the size of a football. My wife even likes the dog and thats very rare..lol...i aint saying that a true old blooded pit bull terrier might not be better at his or her job than on average MOST blue dogs. Im just saying im happy with mine. And if a man showed up with 1000 dollars wanting to buy him the man would leave with just as much money as he showed up with. And God knows i could use 1000$... and if things keep going the way its going now with all the bull breed laws we will all be catching hogs with rough curs..lol...if we get to legally hunt at all. If yall havent read mrs la's post , please do. Lets all take the time to put in a small effort to voice our opinions on this stuff. !!

^ thank ya!

? Me? Lol

Oh..sorry. i forgot i added that last part. Its true and your welcome !

Lol yes silly