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Title: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: DIAMOND A KENNELS on September 30, 2009, 03:05:25 pm
(http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af3/DIAMONDAKENNELS/Staffordshire20Bull20Terrier.jpg)


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: sfboarbuster on September 30, 2009, 03:06:57 pm
Pit


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: trey brown on September 30, 2009, 03:10:19 pm
THAT IS A PIT BULL


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Cristina on September 30, 2009, 03:13:19 pm
I have a feeling this is a trick question.... :laugh: lol It looks like a PIT


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Monteria on September 30, 2009, 03:13:30 pm
No telling. Looks don't make a breed, nor do papers. Type, performance and ability do....  ;D

Steve


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on September 30, 2009, 03:13:33 pm
Could be a staf, pit, or just a mutt.


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Cull Buck on September 30, 2009, 03:15:56 pm
black mouth pit lacy cur (BMPLC)

 ???


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: sfboarbuster on September 30, 2009, 03:17:53 pm
Im thinking this is a trick quiestion also


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on September 30, 2009, 03:18:44 pm
What ever it is, it is in the hound family. ;D  You can just tell it has a great nose. ;)  This dog can take a day old track like there's no tomorrow.  I found what it was on the internet.  It's a super dog, I mean dogo. >:D


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: nosightsneeded on September 30, 2009, 03:21:42 pm
IAM GOING TO GO AGAINST MYSELF AND SAY ITS A MUTT


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: DIAMOND A KENNELS on September 30, 2009, 03:22:33 pm
The Staffordshire Bull Terrier is a stocky, muscular dog with great strength and athletic ability. They have a broad head, defined occipital muscles, a relatively short front part of the face, half prick ears, dark round eyes, and a wide mouth with a clean scissor-like bite. The ears are small and either rose or half-prick. The cheek muscles are usually pronounced. Their lips show no looseness, and they rarely drool.
The head tapers down to a strong well muscled neck and shoulders placed on squarely spaced forelimbs. Their rib cage is well sprung and is crowned by a level top line. They are tucked up in their loins, and the last rib of their cage should be visible. Their tail is carried like an old fashioned pump handle and should be neither too long nor too short. Their hind quarters are well muscled and are the drive in the Staffordshire's gait, being well let down in the hock.
The Staffordshire Bull Terrier was developed in England in the 1900’s through crossing the Bulldog Mastiff mixes with terrier breeds. Unfortunately they were originally bred for dog fighting enthusiasts, but their kind nature helped them to become valued family companions when dog fighting became illegal.Size
Males stand 14 to 16 inches (35 to 40 centimeters) at the withers and weigh 25 to 40 pounds (13 to 22 kilograms). Females are slightly smaller, standing 13 to 15 inches and weighing up to 35 pounds.
 :o :o WOW I THOUGHT THERE WAS DOG SPECIALISTS ON THIS BOARD GUESS I WAS WRONG OH WELL JUST GOES TO SHOW EVEN A SPECIALIST CAN BE FOOLED  ;) ;)


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: DIAMOND A KENNELS on September 30, 2009, 03:25:43 pm
LOL GOT YALL  ;D  JUST HAD TO HAVE SOME FUN  ;D  ;)


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: sfboarbuster on September 30, 2009, 03:26:11 pm
That was my second guess, but it was hard to tell with nothing to compare size to


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on September 30, 2009, 03:26:31 pm
Might want to re-read the above comments.  Based on looks, you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between a pit or a staf.  


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: DIAMOND A KENNELS on September 30, 2009, 03:33:21 pm
REALLY  :o :o (http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af3/DIAMONDAKENNELS/GRIM2.jpg)(http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af3/DIAMONDAKENNELS/91C76BD7F20F4D15899B48CAF51AD626.jpg)YA I CAN SEE HOW ITS HARD TO TELL BETWEEN THE 1 AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE AND THESE 2 HECK I THINK THESE 2 MIGHT BE GREY HOUND CROSSES LOL     The American Pit Bull Terrier, also known as a Pit Bull, is a breed of dog that is currently in the Mastiff Group. Out of any other dog breed, the Pit Bull’s personality has been misrepresented and maligned due to their use in illegal dog fights and their ownership by pet owners who abused or kept their Pit Bull in an uncontrollable state.
The American Pit Bull Terrier has not yet received recognition or approval by the American Kennel Club, and there is still some debate as to its distinction from the American Staffordshire Terrier, but this breed is currently recognized by variety of clubs including: the United Kennel Club, the National Kennel Club, and the Continental Kennel Club.The American Pit Bull Terrier was developed in the late 1800’s from crosses using a variety of bulldog and terriers, but the exact origin of the American Pit Bull Terrier is still debatable. The American Pit Bull Terrier was frequently used as an all around working dog, guard dog, hunting dog, and ratting dog. Unfortunately this breed was also used in dog fights and rat fights until the practice was banned, but today the breed is still frequently abused and exploited for illegal dog fighting rings


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: nosightsneeded on September 30, 2009, 03:34:24 pm
I THOUGHT IT WAS ONE OF THOSE PIT TRIVIAS!  >:D REVERSE PHYCOLOGY!!!  WHERE  U HAVE A SHEET WITH ALOT OF DIFFERENT PICTURES OF DOGS.  ASK THE PERSON TO PICK OUT THE PIT BULL AND THEY ALWASY PICK THE DOG THAT ISNT A PIT BUT A MUTT THAT LOOKS MEAN.  NOT GOOD PICTURE TO PROVE A POINT THOUGH.


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on September 30, 2009, 03:37:26 pm
On the one wearing a cut vest, I would have to say a good male catch dog, that the owner is trying to embarrass. :D


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: nosightsneeded on September 30, 2009, 03:42:51 pm
I THINK UKC SAYS STAFFY AND PITS ARE THE SAME BREED.

Known for their intelligence and loyalty American Pit Bull Terriers make excellent, loving and protective companions despite the unfair press they receive. A common question regarding the APBT is, "How is this breed different from the American Staffordshire Terrier?". In the eyes of the United Kennel Club, they are the same breed, but many disagree. Some AKC-registered American Staffordshire Terriers are dual-registered as American Pit Bull Terriers with the UKC; however, this draws criticism from many who point out that the bloodlines have been separate for too long for these to be considered the same breed. The AKC, on the other hand, does not allow a UKC-registered American Pit Bull Terrier to be registered as an American Staffordshire Terrier. To be dual-registered, the dog must first be an AKC-registered American Staffordshire Terrier and then it can be registered with the UKC as an APBT -- but not vice versa... Choose from a responsible breeder and make sure the puppy is properly socialized and handled. Solid training will produce a tranquil, good, obedient, companion dog

NOT AS BIG AS A DIFFERENCE AS YOU MAKE OUT TO BE.


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: DIAMOND A KENNELS on September 30, 2009, 03:44:09 pm
HEY IT WAS A JOKE THE DOGS AT BOTTOM ARE SOME FAKE PITBULLS AND I STILL CANT FIGURE OUT WHERE THE BATTERIES GO AT AND THE REMOTE I GOT WITH THEM WONT WORK I THINK I NEED TO SEND THEM IN FOR A REAL ONE  LOL. AS FAR THE MALE CATCH DOG WITH THE VEST HE JUST GOT OUT OF BALLET CLASS WHEN I TOOK HIS PICTURE HE IS KINDA CAUGHT UP IN A MID LIFE CRISIS AT THE MOMENT BUT I THINK HE WILL FIGURE IT OUT OH HE IS A OK CATCH DOG AS WELL  ;D


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: UNDERDOG on September 30, 2009, 03:51:44 pm
Nosights, you are correct in that Am staff and APBT can dual reg w/ ukc but the black dog posted is a "American stafordshire bull terrier" a much smaller dog.


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: DIAMOND A KENNELS on September 30, 2009, 03:53:17 pm
I THINK UKC SAYS STAFFY AND PITS ARE THE SAME BREED.

Known for their intelligence and loyalty American Pit Bull Terriers make excellent, loving and protective companions despite the unfair press they receive. A common question regarding the APBT is, "How is this breed different from the American Staffordshire Terrier?". In the eyes of the United Kennel Club, they are the same breed, but many disagree. Some AKC-registered American Staffordshire Terriers are dual-registered as American Pit Bull Terriers with the UKC; however, this draws criticism from many who point out that the bloodlines have been separate for too long for these to be considered the same breed. The AKC, on the other hand, does not allow a UKC-registered American Pit Bull Terrier to be registered as an American Staffordshire Terrier. To be dual-registered, the dog must first be an AKC-registered American Staffordshire Terrier and then it can be registered with the UKC as an APBT -- but not vice versa... Choose from a responsible breeder and make sure the puppy is properly socialized and handled. Solid training will produce a tranquil, good, obedient, companion dog

NOT AS BIG AS A DIFFERENCE AS YOU MAKE OUT TO BE.

THE SAME BREED THATS A BIG DIFFERENCE IN SIZE AND SHAPE BUT I GUESS I LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERY DAY TELL AKC THAT SO THEY WILL REG THEM


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on September 30, 2009, 03:55:22 pm
Ashley,

Now if you could just learn to quote, then respond below.   :P


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Cristina on September 30, 2009, 04:04:32 pm
See I already knew that  ;D Really I did, but was scared to answer so I just went with "pit"  :angel: lol. I know the difference between the looks of SBT and APBT. I read a book about them a long time ago.


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: DIAMOND A KENNELS on September 30, 2009, 04:12:26 pm
See I already knew that  ;D Really I did, but was scared to answer so I just went with "pit"  :angel: lol. I know the difference between the looks of SBT and APBT. I read a book about them a long time ago.
LOL WE WILL LET U SLIDE ON THIS ONE BUT NEXT TIME U WILL BE ATTACKED  >:D LOL   I JUST THINK ITS FUNNY HOW PEOPLE LOOK AT A DOG AND JUST SAY ITS A SMALL PITBULL OR ITS JUST A PIT OR I HAVE A PITBULL AND SHE IS SHORT AND STOCKY WHEN REALLY THEY PROBLEY HAVE A STAFFY  rolleyes rolleyes IT WAS ALL JUST IN FUN AND GAMES NOT A WAR >:D LOL


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: nosightsneeded on September 30, 2009, 04:13:03 pm
Nosights, you are correct in that Am staff and APBT can dual reg w/ ukc but the black dog posted is a "American stafordshire bull terrier" a much smaller dog.

SORRY MISSED THAT FOR SOME REASON THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING AM STAFFS HERE. I GUESS I SHOULD READ BETTER


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: DIAMOND A KENNELS on September 30, 2009, 04:25:36 pm
THIS WAS JUST MEANT TO BE A ''HAHA THREAD'' NOTHING SERIUS AND NOT A ARUGUMENT THREAD HOWEVER IT COULD GO JERRY SPRINGER REAL FAST WITH ALL THESE MANLY HARMONES FLYING AROUND U NEVER NO SO WATCH UR BACK THEY WILL ATTACK  >:D


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on September 30, 2009, 04:31:20 pm
http://www.akc.org/breeds/staffordshire_bull_terrier/index.cfm

http://www.akc.org/breeds/american_staffordshire_terrier/index.cfm

I learned something new today. 


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Lockedon on September 30, 2009, 04:41:00 pm
Where did you get that picture of my CD? ;D

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt182/jeffreydup/DSC_1866.jpg)



Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: DIAMOND A KENNELS on September 30, 2009, 04:52:56 pm
cbk  so please tell me u agree that there is a big difference in am staffs and the sbt  and also could be possible for people to mistake the to breed if they dont no a difference


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: country man 563 on September 30, 2009, 05:29:47 pm
my buddy has a dog that look like the one of the dog in first pic  and its a plott pit cross


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on October 01, 2009, 06:44:43 am
cbk  so please tell me u agree that there is a big difference in am staffs and the sbt  and also could be possible for people to mistake the to breed if they dont no a difference

I think that the uneducated would have a huge problem telling them apart.  To be perfectly honest, before yesterday, I thought the staff was the same as the Am Staff.  I now know differently.  Like I said, I learned something new.  USHOG's remarks made me do a little research.  That is why I posted the links above.  Never too old to learn.


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: aladatrot on October 01, 2009, 08:53:25 am
I'm always getting confused between an amstaff and a bull terrier. I guess the bull terriers have those turned down noses?

I think uglydog sent me a website that went over the evolution of those bull terriers over the last 50 years. They went from good looking apbt type dogs to those freak shows in no time flat.


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Slim9797 on May 06, 2016, 12:26:04 am
This thread just helped me prove to Stumphunter that a APBT and a Staffordshire Bull Terrier are completely different animals. Yay for the search bar


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Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Slim9797 on May 06, 2016, 12:29:01 am
Nosights, you are correct in that Am staff and APBT can dual reg w/ ukc but the black dog posted is a "American stafordshire bull terrier" a much smaller dog.

SORRY MISSED THAT FOR SOME REASON THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING AM STAFFS HERE. I GUESS I SHOULD READ BETTER
Dawson..... Read the whole post buddy!


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Judge peel on May 06, 2016, 06:31:50 am
The apbt is a result of a breeding off a staff you could say they are first cuzins. There ain't much difference in the two these days. You could set them beside each other and most can't tell which is which     As far as counting beans they are different kinda like a chevy truck vs a Gmc


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Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: bignasty on May 06, 2016, 09:06:28 am
Dont think -american-is included in this dogs breed name

Its a staffordshire bull terrier(from england)


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: bignasty on May 06, 2016, 09:12:20 am
Nosights, you are correct in that Am staff and APBT can dual reg w/ ukc but the black dog posted is a "American stafordshire bull terrier" a much smaller dog.
  above post


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: TheRednose on May 06, 2016, 10:21:21 am
Dont think -american-is included in this dogs breed name

Its a staffordshire bull terrier(from england)

Yup, and there is a pretty big difference between them and an APBT. The American Staffordshire Terrier is much closer related to the APBT and in some cases are even dual registered as both. SBT's can be really tiny but so can a APBT's sometimes but not as much on average. They all are related as JP already said. I really like SBT's as pets they are some pretty cool little dogs.


Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Slim9797 on May 06, 2016, 11:12:00 am
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Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Slim9797 on May 06, 2016, 11:17:38 am
The staffordshire bull terrier is what I believe my buddies new catch dog is.. He's black, if he weighs 40 lbs I'd be completely surprised. He's not even knee high. Real tight tucked chest, short muscular neck,  pronounced jaw muscles, super well muscled, almost longer In the body than he is tall. Small low set ears. I mean fits the breed standard to a T damn near. And might I add he is a hell of a catch dog


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Title: Re: WHAT BREED OF DOG IS THIS ??
Post by: Judge peel on May 06, 2016, 11:36:13 am
I member when I was a kid they would sometimes be called farm pits. They where such a multi use dog kill rats varmints yotes what ever wasn't sposta be around most where not papered dog that was for the die hard bull dog guys who wanted one thing not a free run dog 


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Post by: Fixitlouie on May 06, 2016, 01:21:23 pm
We have had staffys.  There big headed compact pits. Some of show quality are around 30 lbs. There expensive or at least can be.

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