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Will American Pharaoh win the Belmont next Saturday? Why is he going to win or not win?

   depends on the weather , he's proven he's a mudder   lol  .   if the tracks wet he's got it in the bag  . hoping for a rainy day  !! 

I hope he wins. Its time for a triple crown winner!!

He will win if, he has no bad luck and gets to run his race. You can put this horse any place you want him with his high cruising speed and he rates really well and stays relaxed. If he were mine, I would let him take the lead, relax, slow them down and wait 'till someone challenges. I think he will win by ten.
   He has had two very impressive easy works since the Preakness. He has held his weight good and Baffert says his energy is high and shows no sign of being tired.

I agree with what you said...I am not a horseman but he has that smooth action...like no energy is wasted...he is slender enough to make the long race...and like all laid back mammals...he will rise to the occasion...because he is a champion...

Today is the day...My bet is on American Pharaoh...Bob Baffert says the colt is holding ip a good weight and looking good...Baffert has had a shot at the triple crown 3 times in the past and I hope today is the day...he was a very successful quarter horse racing trainer before he crossed over to the thoroughbreds...I believe he has the feel for bringing out the best in a race horse...

This race can go to any horse on account it is 1.5 miles and there are horses entered that are well rested...

Well If he doesn't win it I sure hope it isn't one of those fresh horses brought in just for this race. I hope he does it, it's nice to see the grain raise above the chaff!
 

it's official...American Pharoah is a triple crown winner...he made it look easy...

The jockey just said the same thing I was saying about his moving action...smooth smooth...the horse made history...

Man, he's smooth! I don't know if he can throw that smooth movin run but you know some folks gonna be bettin big stud fees on it. The only sad thing in horse racing is that he is done racing already!

I am sure we will see him run again. What a great horse

that horse has a big motor.

I missed it. He only won by 5 1/2 instead of 10.

Yep...51/2 lengths but he was pulling away from the second place finisher...

He led from start to finish...

His racing career is over. He will now go to the stud barn. He goes back to Secretariat. I would be finding top mares bred close to Secretaiat to breed to him. Secretairiat had the longest stride ever recorded. They talked about what a long stride American Pharaoh.I have not heard if they syndicated him or not.

Man he makes it look easy you're absolutely right Cajun his racing days are over.

There is too much money in syndicating him to take a chance on getting him hurt. 

And just think the owners sold that horse at action and bought it back for 300k. I liked the horse just a good solid horse. I found it interesting they kept talking about how easy going the horse is and how it could be a family horse. Gonna go in the history books with a misspelled name and all. Lol


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They talked about how good mannered he was but they had a lip shank on him every time he was lead out. That could have been a precaution but normally you put a lip shank on rank horses to control them.

he also had on hearing protection until it was time to race...I think Baffert was comparing him to the average race horse that is a stud...

another thing that the Jockey said was that he slept in until 10:30 AM so he would not be fatigued...he wanted to be on top of his game because that is what he wanted for the horse to feel...I agree because that is contagious...animals are more in tune with that sense of communication than we as humans are...

They were all great physical specimens that ran the race. Truly the best of the best. Pharoh's deep chest caught my eye & looking at Frosted who took 2nd, man what a body on a horse. Just looking at him, he looked like speed on 4 hooves.
  Is it just me but now I feel kind of let down. After hoping & praying for so many years for a triple crown winner, now that we have one, what do we look forward to now. I guess next year we will be rooting for another one.
  Here is a little info on what is next for American Pharaoh.

American Pharoah is the first Triple Crown winner in 37 years, but his biggest payday won't be on a race track.
The big money will come from the stud fees he'll earn once his racing days are over.

The horse's owners, Zayat Stables, sold his breeding rights on May 20 for an undisclosed amount, just four days after he won the Preakness and became a contender for the Triple Crown.
Justin Zayat, racing manager for Zayat Stables, told ESPN that they had passed on an offer "north of $20 million" for the breeding rights.
But when the sale was announced, his father Ahmed Zayat told the sports network it was an offer he just couldn't pass up.

Jockey takes third shot at Triple Crown
Even if they paid tens of millions for the breeding rights, the new owners have a very good shot of making back their investment. American Pharoah could collect between $6 million to $7.5 million in stud fees every year for decades to come.
Related: The best bet for American Pharoah? Hang onto those tickets
As a Triple Crown winner, American Pharoah could collect as much as $100,000 per foal in stud fees, according to Evan Hammonds, executive editor of BloodHorse, the trade publication that covers the horse breeding industry. A horse can father 100 foals a year.
Prior to the Belmont, when he just had Kentucky Derby and Preakness wins, it was estimated that he would collect $60,000 to $75,000 per foal,
That kind of stud money means most successful racing careers are short, Hammonds said.
Related: Big money at the Belmont Stakes
Additional races would put American Pharoah at risk for an injury that could force his owners to put him down before he ever gets put out to stud. There is also the risk that Pharoah could start losing, cutting into his stud fees.
It's not just his success on the track that makes American Pharoah so valuable. It's also his blood lines.
His father, Pioneerof the Nile, (that's not a typo) makes $60,000 per foal because he's fathered so many successful horses. And that rate is likely to climb next year given Pharoah's success.
Related: American Pharoah's jockey earns peanuts compared to other sports
California Chrome, which won the Derby and Preakness last year, hasn't been put out to stud yet since his blood lines aren't as prestigious. His stud fee is probably in the the neighborhood of $25,000.
So his owners decided to race him for another year. He went to the Dubai World Cup where he placed second, scoring another $2 million in winnings.
CNNMoney (New York) June 6, 2015: 7:29 PM ET


 

That is right...a triple crown winner is too valuable to be raced...and pedigree has a lot to do with the price of the stud fee especially if it is triple triple crown winner...same with world champion hunting dog...

Cant believe it. Owners of American Pharaoh are going to continue to race him. While I know he is insured, if he is ever injured where he has to be put down he will never be able to pass on his genes. Have not kept up with it in years but last I heard the Jockey club does not recognize Artificial Insemination.

That is outrageous...they sold the breeding rights...so I guess they don't have anything to lose...but those that bought the breeding rights have quite a bit to lose...like you said...he could get hurt...he can start losing races and his stud fees can be affected by those loses...

Well he won again today