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Title: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Slim9797 on October 09, 2015, 10:51:07 pm
Any guesses at weight? Pic of deer if for size reference (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/09/8706df776b5b54813017a78af5fb4668.jpg) (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/09/effe66505a1da3864d68dae3a5638b9c.jpg) (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/09/41d9fa9e07c3f5a3dc3eec8b0a001cbe.jpg)


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: vwilliams on October 09, 2015, 11:01:11 pm
I would guess around 350-400lbs. I'm rather new to all this but I recently had 11 dogs of mine stolen right off their chains. And I figured out how to reply to yours. But couldn't figure out how to post. I have spent quite a bit of time and money trying to locate the last five dogs. Could you help me out with how to post an article?


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on October 10, 2015, 11:52:36 am
Big enough to ride this ride for sure.


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Cajun on October 10, 2015, 12:31:22 pm
If you will mark a white line on your feeder poles at 3 ft. on all 3 poles you will have a good idea. Go ahead & mark them at 3 1/2 feet also . If he is close to the 3 ft. mark you will have a good mature boar. Anything around the 3 1/2 ft. mark should go 350 plus.


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: charles on October 10, 2015, 01:08:12 pm
That looks like a first year doe, and it being a tx doe at that, thats not a good refrence to size, since not all deer are the same size at the same age. As cajun said, put a make from the ground, up to 3' and 3.5' on all legs. Then that will give you a more accurate method of scaling. But if i had to guess, id say 275-300#


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: l.h.cracker on October 10, 2015, 10:36:30 pm
That's a good idea Cajun. 250-75#


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: ArtHenrey on October 10, 2015, 10:58:02 pm
If he was tied you wouldn't have to guess :)) I'm kidding buddy. I'd say 275+ range


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: GOODEN on October 11, 2015, 09:13:11 am
275-300# would be my guess too. I like them spotted hogs!


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: BA-IV on October 11, 2015, 09:30:28 am
Good boar...he'd make a fine Barr!


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Slim9797 on October 11, 2015, 10:20:40 am
This hog is on the one property I can't run my mutts :'(


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Slim9797 on October 11, 2015, 08:31:43 pm
Well boys... CHECK THIS OUT! (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/11/d781b8fb095e8047db6eecd601c1591f.jpg) this pic is a little over 2 years old and is from same feeder as the current hog in question. Look at markings on right side of hog in pic from original post and this pic. Same hog. He's gotta be pushing close 5 years old I figure .


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on October 11, 2015, 08:51:04 pm
Yes sir. Same hog for sure. Probably a smart old dude to.


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Slim9797 on October 11, 2015, 09:08:46 pm
He is. Bow hunted yesterday evening per the feeder these pics are from. Pulled out at 7:30 pm and at 8:03 pm I have him at the back feeder on same property. ':)


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: hoghunter71409 on October 12, 2015, 11:20:19 am
Nice boar for sure.  Going to be close to 300.  I bet he knew you were in the stand and just waited for you to leave.

He didn't get that big by being dumb...I bet he can run too.  I don't see teeth very hoof in any of the pics but that don't matter.  2" teeth is about all he needs to do some slicing and dicing!

Maybe the next pic you show he will be hobbled.  Good luck


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Slim9797 on October 12, 2015, 11:43:45 am

Maybe the next pic you show he will be hobbled.  Good luck
this place is to small for dogs. There's a guy on the back side with a hot wire supposedly strong enough to kill a hog and on the far side there's a guy who I am certain would shoot any and all of my dogs dead if they crossed his fence... Maybe he will make the 3/4 mile trip to our other property I can run them


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Judge peel on October 12, 2015, 12:31:20 pm
Get you a big nice trap set it by that feeder tie the door open so it won't shut.  put a big pile of sour corn in there and see if he goes in then come back and set the door maybe you catch him


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Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on October 12, 2015, 07:02:52 pm
Get you a big nice trap set it by that feeder tie the door open so it won't shut.  put a big pile of sour corn in there and see if he goes in then come back and set the door maybe you catch him


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yeah what he said..lol...id like to see him in the back of a truck. Good luck !


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Not color blind on October 12, 2015, 07:14:30 pm
What part of Tx you from Slim?


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Slim9797 on October 12, 2015, 11:48:24 pm
I'm from Fayette county texas. South central Texas. Schulenburg Tx to be exact.


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Slim9797 on October 12, 2015, 11:49:17 pm
I have a trap set and he refuses to go In it(tied open). As does any hog that has come through


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: l.h.cracker on October 13, 2015, 07:27:21 am
Good hog I hate seeing hogs I can't touch.


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on October 13, 2015, 08:12:09 am
I have a trap set and he refuses to go In it(tied open). As does any hog that has come through
I had a place like that. Sucks to. Couldn't run dogs. Hogs in every bush.  Never did trap one but tried for a month..lol


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Slim9797 on October 13, 2015, 10:50:50 am
This property used to be covered up in hogs. If I was going by myself I wasn't allowed to open the gate if I didn't have a gun with me. But the whole time we were covered up in them we couldn't hunt them. Old lady we lease it from loves all animals... Until this summer her daughter went walking in the woods and came across a boar that started popping its teeth at her. After that we got permission but no sooner did we get permission, the hogs disappeared. we've killed 5 I think there. Now it's a lone boar every so often. might have to see if I can get an arrow in him if he shows up with enough light tonight. He's been spending all night roaming our property. From 8pm to 8 am


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: charles on October 13, 2015, 12:02:17 pm
Set u up some kind of lighting around the feeder, bright enough to see your pins and make a clean shot. Once he gets used to the light, then just wait till dark and bust his ass. I did that in ne tx on public land. No sooner did i get my spot light rigged up and tested it to make sure i could push on it and it come on and sat back down, a good boar came in and rooted under the pine i was in. Couldnt get a draw and keep my arrow on the rest (have a myzzy zero effect drop away), so i put the bow down and started rumaging for my 45. With the noise i was making, he heard me and popped smoke.


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Slim9797 on October 13, 2015, 12:51:24 pm
I have some of these elusive wildlife technologies "the kill light" feeder lights. But so far due to how old this hog has to be he's been smart enough to know when I'm there and where. An he just goes to the other feeder. Might go and see if I can catch him slipping tonight....
Any advice on where to shoot a hog this size? I shoot rage hypos. My bow doesn't like fixed blades one bit. It's out of tune or something. I just feel like a 2 inch cut to an animal that big and hardy isn't gonna do much unless I put it right in his pump station.


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on October 13, 2015, 01:17:09 pm
That broad head should do a number on any of the vitals.


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: charles on October 13, 2015, 03:47:32 pm
Bout the same place u would for a deer for shot placement. Not being a smartass, but pull up a page for deer and hog vitals and compare the 2 just ensure you get good placement


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Slim9797 on October 14, 2015, 12:31:23 am
Went and made a sit tonight with a buddy. Swear I heard him(something came through heavy footed and crashing brush) but he never made an appearance. Checked cam on way out and had him there at 9:04 Monday night and 10:30 Tuesday morning...


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on October 14, 2015, 08:28:57 am
You'll get em. Maybe he'll come to some of that sow in heat aka piss in a bottle...lol just a thought.


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Black Streak on October 14, 2015, 08:53:58 am
One of the best ways to trap big boars is by using another pig in the back of the trap.  Best to use a sow in heat but good luck getting that lucky lol.    Build a little holding area on the backside of your trap and put a sow in there.    Better if your trap doesn't have any kind of floor, paneling included when I say flooring.   Stake it down if it's light so he don't over turn it though.   Put a wing up to help guide / persuade him to enter through the door.     The sides of the holding pen need to be covered with plywood  so the boar can't see the pig well and get at her well unless he goes through the trap entance.   He should be able to see her well from standing outside the trap entrance.       Best way to catch big weary boars in traps.
    Bow hunting them at feeders, I just use cheap solar powered landscape lights from Home Depot or walmart as kill lights.     If your just shooting a normal set up used for deer, then better get the shot placement right on a boar of that size.   Big above average boars are thick and dense then couple that with their shield, you hit it in the shoulder with that setup and you more than likely not gonna get enough penitration to be lethal.     If you actually do, that shot won't leak much blood through the wound normally because all the tissue tends to seal the wound channel enough to keep the blood in the cavity of the boar and the blood clots really fast and that will help seal the wound channel from leaking blood externally.   The ideal place to shoot a big big boar is low and tight tight behind the shoulder.   This is the arm pit and the skin is thin there, not a lot of tissue to work through before punching through to the vitals, and the vitals are right there perfect for that shot.    Only catch is, that little vulnerable spot is only about a 3 inch area that's best exposed when his leg is forward.    I bought a bowtech insanity with 80# limbs and shoot 12 grain per inch arrow shafts in it specifically for big boars.    I've learned to still respect that shoulder area and really concentrate on an ideal shot.    Quartering hard to you and punching a good boar with my set up in the chest and driving it out right behind the off side shoulder will make for great easy to follow short blood trails.   For good follow up shots on boars that are hit hard but are walking on you and won't go down, put an arrow in between their pelvis and rib cage just to one side of their spin and drive that arrow towards their heart.    That arrow will usually bury up close to the fetching  on a white tail set up and get liver and lung and send the boar to the ground in a few more yards.
   A pigs spine swoops down low as it starts at the back of the shoulders and goes toward it's neck.    It's vitals are pretty low and forward.   Protected well by the mass of the shoulders.   Often times you will spin a young boar or sow by hitting it dead center in the shoulder because of how low the back bone drops through there.    They don't go anywhere but down when hit like that but hit above it and it's bye bye piggy usually.   Not a shot you want to shoot for on big big thick boars though.


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Black Streak on October 14, 2015, 09:11:24 am
Forgot to tell you an old weary boar will often circle down wind like a smart white tail and scent check the feeder with its nose before he ever lays a visual on the place.     Wear cover scent!
   Also the animals such as wise bucks that often come to the feeder will sense something a miss when their is always birds at the feeder like dove, red birds, etc when they show up, or other deer that are always their before they are.    If that stuff is not their when they come in when your setting in your blind, it's an alarm for them.    Wise ol cagy boar is no different.     If their is always coons their before he gets there and they aint when your in the blind, it makes him uncomfortable.    I've witnessed a few wise boars over the years that acted like a wise old buck with how catious they were and how they approached things when deciding whether or not they would commit to coming in.      They aren't all like this for sure but now and then you will find an old boar that is.    Even older more experienced matriarchs leading a sounder are pretty cagey sometimes.   I always play a pig just as it's a wise old buck when I bow hunt them at a feeder do to my experience with some of the smarter more weary ones.
     Best of luck to you.


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Slim9797 on October 17, 2015, 02:51:26 pm
Well I believe I'm gonna make another sit tonight. Had pic of him at the feeder yesterday at 7:20pm. He never seems to come from the same direction as you mentioned black streak, he act real weary of what he's doing. Also. I've never had any other animals on camera within an hour of him showing up. Have had deer show up while he was there though. But as for coons or anything I haven't had a pic one of them. Might have to try that cover scent idea. And I'm still kind of confused in shot placement.(I've never shot at anything with my bow yet though I am pretty accurate target wise) I guess it's my unfamiliarity with large hogs but from a 15 foot high tree stand and 15 yards from the feeder, I feel as though the shot your advising, I would be at too steep of an angle to drive the arrow through to where I need to


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Slim9797 on October 17, 2015, 02:55:16 pm
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/17/f47344ecc09817ec17a754645191706b.jpg) am I correct? I should be aiming in the red triangle?


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: charles on October 19, 2015, 12:16:04 am
between the big black patch and the red line where it makes its straight line up and to the back is where u wanna stick him to get the heart and lungs. a little further back and you will get lungs.


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: lettmroll on October 19, 2015, 06:38:20 am
280/320


Title: Re: Spotted boar hog
Post by: Black Streak on October 19, 2015, 09:06:32 am
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/17/f47344ecc09817ec17a754645191706.jpg) am I correct? I should be aiming in the red triangle?

Yes that is correct.    Aim for the center of that triangle and you will be aiming at the perfect spot to hit a big boar.    Any decent boar you kill be it rifle or dogs, look and familiarize yourself with the lightly  skinned unprotected crease at the bottom of the shoulder right where your red triangle is.    It's really exposed well when that leg is forward.    In a perfect world that's when you should shoot for it but even if an animal comes in and settles at a feeder and feeds for 15 minutes, it might always be facing you  and rarely offer the perfect shot.    Some animals come in and just prefer to face broad side 90% of the time which is perfect.   Just do the best you can but remember to not grip the bow because you will be excited.   Gripping the bow buts torque in it and will cause your arrow not to hit where you do in practice.     Aim for the center of that triangle and not just the triangle the self (aim small miss small)   stay relaxed and don't grab the bow at the shot, just let it fall forward in your hand as in practice.    Before you shoot make dang sure all your anchor points are in place.    Knuckle to the ear lobe, string touching the tip of your nose, and the pin sight centered perfectly in the peep.   I mention all this because it is a small area you are aiming for and you won't hit it unless your shot is perfect.
    If your shooting from an elated position, then you will need to aim at the top of that red triangle do to the trajectory of the arrow when it smacks him right there.    To steep of an angle and you won't hit vitals aiming that low, your will just graze him so to speak.      I'm normally on the ground when I'm whacking pigs and that's my shot.           Remember that most of their good vitals are further forward than a deer and are below the midway portion of a pig at its shoulders.     I dont shoot any farther back than tight behind the shoulder because i want lung at a minimum,  not liver.      In my perfect world, i want to enter tight behind the near shoulder and try to break the leg on the of side shoulder.      When ever you do stick your pigs with an arrow you think is a great shot,  open it up carefully and  examine what the arrow pierced with the animal laying flat on its side, not hanging.         I've gone so far as to totally remove the shoulder and rib cage to the diafram to look at how the vitals layed in there and how they were protected.   I studied how i wanted my arrows to penitrate because I sought huge boar with a bow and they are soooo heavily and well protected.