EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Been looking around on here for a few days and have a few questions, I'm just getting into using dogs for hog hunting and was wondering what is some of the better cut gear on the market right now, been hearing about hard core, southern cross, uglydog....any to stay away from.

-) i've got some pups about ready to go to the woods but have been told by a few around here not to really worry about cut gear on them right now but im not sure I agree with it

-) do you all run vest on your bay dogs during the summer/any time or just cut collars

Might want to see how they hunt and bay before you gear em up unless you know the stock they come from. Getting warm for best be carefull and learn where your hunting a new dog with a best can drown pretty fast if they panic you can patch them up u can't un drown em. As for vest lot of good ones on the market most made of the same stuff just little different I like pnp for a cd or rough rough dog. But a very light best is best for your average rough dog if it ain't really rough you don't need no vest


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I run a p&p vest on my bulldog. Larry paris out of kenefic ok makes it, been pretty good gear in my opinion lota others like it to.

Thanks guys, any other advise you all could give me would be great.

I would recommend hardcorehogdogs.com  super light tough and dependable we use ours year around

i only run a vest on my bulldog and regular collars on my other mutts

if their just pups i wouldnt worry about cut gear right now, id hunt them awhile and see what they do or if their even going to make the cut. its fixen to be hot and odds are you would prob have one of them die of heat than getting gutted, just my 02, i dont run any cut gear on my mutts its to hot and i dont want one to get tangled up and drown from a vest.

Can't tell you how many times I go hunting, leave one dog with out a cut collar, and that dog ends up being the only one not getting cut!


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My dogs hunt naked... just wear a couple of tracking collar necklaces haha. I do run a light vest on the bulldogs... the Devestator from WildBoarUSA/Ugly Dog is the vest I've used for years.

^ same here on both counts. Currs wear tracking and id collar and bulldog wear wildboarusa cut vest.

I run cut collars on bay dogs. That is a personal preference but I can see no reason  not to run a cut collar. Knowing how they bay in a controlled situation could help greatly with this question. As far as gear I choose Southern Style. I feel it is the best gear on the market. If I didn't I would run another gear. Research the material and construction and choose the best gear you can afford.


Shotgun
Arkansas

Mike, what are your reasons for not running cut collars?

SHOTGUN, theres really only one im worried about because he is pretty gritty on the hog at the house but the pig is about the same size as him so im not sure what he'll do on a bigger pig as I don't have access to one, he wants to catch it on the jaw and hold it more than bay it(he might be more useful as a catch dog)
 Anyone on here from over Mississippi way.

I don't want anything hindering my dogs performance while they're hunting... their mobility, getting hung up in brush or fences, getting weighed down with water, getting hot, etc...

A dog will always be rougher in a pen than in the woods in my opinion. If your dog is getting rough with pigs in a pen. It is time to change pigs or stop going to the pen.


Shotgun
Arkansas

x2...

another thing that can happen...a young dog that has caught and over powered smaller hogs in a bay pen can become over confident...and the first time he meets up with a toothie boar out in the woods might be his last...or can be cut pretty bad before he realizes his mistake...I have made that error before...

We run Southern Style cut collars on our bay dogs just in case the get to close. Vest bulldogs every time.

Mike, are you just runnin loose baying dogs? Would you use protective gear if you had some rough dogs mixed in?

Liefalwepon...on that 1/2 mt cur 1/2 pit I would use a vest  depending on how gritty that is...I take a chance on no collars because of collar with name plate and tracking collars...

I have seen quite a few excellent 1/2 mt cur 1/2 pit that hunted hard and had short carriers...

Yes, mine will set back and bay one... I don't care to run any rough dogs.

Like mike said if your dogs just set back and bay no need for the gear just hampering them. Now on the other side if dogs are very rough vest will save them and is worth the slight mobility loss jmo


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I just have not found a vest that fits him well, they rub his front legs and it really slows him down

Southern cross use to make a really nice half vest that had big leg holes you might look at them they where good vest few yrs back


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Has anyone had any vest cut all the way through ? What kind of vest have you seen hogs cut through it?

Lief, I also run a cur x pit and I use a tejas outdoors vest on mine. Fits him very well, no rubbing. I use the short catch dog vest. Good protection, light and he doesn't get to hot in it. Been on enough good hogs to know it works. Also I like your dogs name, mine is named grizz as well. Let me know if you'd like to see pictures. Got plenty. Cornbro, any vest can be cut through if you meet the right hog. None are perfect. Plenty kinds that are good though.

Thanks Guys, I'm going to try to find someone with a bigger hog around me to work him on and see how he acts, water is up over here right now so I don't have any where to go right now to put them on pigs.

Regular collar and cut collar on my cue dogs Texas vest on my bill dogs. Let them dogs get cut a couple times they'll back up

Regular collar and tracking collar on cur dogs idk why I put cut collar

tracking collars on cur dogs, nothing else. A vest and cut collar on the bulldog.

and I use ugly dogs vest. I have 2 titans and really like them. knock on wood it hasn't been completely cut through. came close but not all the way yet.

Every vest I have tried has had a cut that has went all the way thru but I look at it like if they didn't have the vest on dead dog. Vest do save dogs but they ain't a cure all


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That's right... ANY VEST can be cut thru. I just shake my head when people start cussing and throwing a fit about different vest makers... because their's got a hole in it.

I'm not saying they cant get cut through, which it can. just been lucky. I agree that any vest can get cut through.

Yes sir, I have 3 Devastators and had a Titan... none of them have ever been cut through.