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Title: Rallied hogs jumping on a bulldog
Post by: hoghunter71409 on March 27, 2016, 01:05:15 pm
I'm wondering what other experiences are with a sending a single bulldog to a group of rallied hogs (not talking about little pigs); I am talking about a good size group of hogs with some sure enough good sized hogs in the group.  Are the experiences usually that the one hog is caught and the others break and run?  Have anyone experienced a other hogs in the group jump on the catch dog?


Title: Rallied hogs jumping on a bulldog
Post by: Mike on March 27, 2016, 03:17:24 pm
I've had it had happen several times where another hog will try to whip the bulldog off a caught hog... but most of the time the group runs off. I usually run in behind the bulldog hollering to break the group up.
A friend of mine had a bulldog killed one time on a group. When he caught, a big boar came up behind him, went up underneath the dog and gutted him.


Title: Re: Rallied hogs jumping on a bulldog
Post by: labaconchaser on March 27, 2016, 03:29:15 pm
I had 3 big sows bayed sent bull dog from 50yrds was bulldogs first hog in the woods when he caught the 2 curs caught with him the other 2 sows had bulldog by the back legs trying to pull him off or something one of the sows never let go the other left we caught both sows or should I say the one caught the dog Idk pretty crazy


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Post by: justincorbell on March 27, 2016, 04:05:09 pm
Ive heard some horror stories about sendin a bulldog to a big rally but never had it happen. I know a guy that more than once has eased into a rally with a bulldog on a lariat rope and let the bulldog catch a hog then more or less let the currs push the rest a bit, caught that hog then repeated the process. Gotta have some serious handle on your dogs to make that happen but it can work.


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Post by: joshg223 on March 27, 2016, 04:48:36 pm
I have had them whip bulldog pretty good. I've bayed 3 barr hogs together bulldogs caught one the other whipped up on the bulldogs and I ended up losing one.


Title: Re: Rallied hogs jumping on a bulldog
Post by: Shotgun wg on March 27, 2016, 04:57:49 pm
Had a catchy gyp get chewed up by a sow after catching a shoat out of a group. I figure it happens more often than one would think to yotes and the such.


Shotgun
Arkansas


Title: Re:
Post by: decker on March 27, 2016, 06:05:03 pm
From what I've seen don't send a bulldog into a group, the rest will pile on the caught hog....and dog

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Post by: decker on March 27, 2016, 06:05:51 pm
And if you do, do like Mike said run in there and break it up

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Title: Re: Rallied hogs jumping on a bulldog
Post by: HOGHUNTERX2 on March 27, 2016, 07:25:45 pm
Have had this happen more than once, other hogs getting on bulldog that has hog caught, like wise I just run in and get them off my bulldog, I have actually kicked hogs off bulldog, I have found that running two bulldogs will help alot.


Title: Re: Rallied hogs jumping on a bulldog
Post by: dallas22 on March 27, 2016, 08:08:04 pm
It happen to us on a little spot on the first time out there we didnt expect so many hogs on a 160 track . Well we got there in about ten min we had up two three bays going on at one time. Hogs ended  up in one group. Well we sent in our one bulldog he caught but the hogs jumped on him. I was thinking they would split but it took like  twenty min. Before  they split. But we ended up catching only two. Was a very interesting night.


Title: Re: Rallied hogs jumping on a bulldog
Post by: hoghunter71409 on March 27, 2016, 08:55:30 pm
Good feedback and thank you for the responses.

I hunted last week by myself- didn't get to the lease until 11:30 am.  Didn't figure I would find much but I had some pups with me that needed woods time.  I found a good set of tracks not 1/4 mile from where I unloaded my ranger.  Turned a old dog and a pup loose and they didn't find anything on one side of the road but I saw them coming to the road ahead of me about 250 yds.  I get up to where they are going to cross and I see 6-7 hogs tracks.  Some of the biggest tracks I've seen in a real long time.  I figure the smallest hog in the bunch is about 175.

Dogs cross the road and go 224 yds and bayed.  I figure this is good, they going to break and I'll send more pups.  Nope- I walk into the bay with my bulldog expecting they will have one hog bayed and I get about 50 yds from the bay and I can hear several hogs rattled up.  My two dogs would bay together and they would seem to split about 20 yds and then come back.  I listed for a few minutes and decided not to send the bulldog.  To make matters tougher, the hogs were in a good sized creek and I knew flipping one hog was going to be a challenge- but this aint one hog, it is 6 or 7 and I mean real deal hogs they were pressured to go anywhere.  I took the bulldog back to the ranger and walked another pup in.  I sat there for two hours and listened to the best baying Ive heard in a long time. 

All week Ive wondered if I made the right decision; at the end of the day, I think holding the bulldog may have been the right choice.  Ive been in a couple binds before, but my gut told me this was not right and it could go wrong quick.  So, the best news is, one of my pups bayed her tail off at her first real woods hogs for two hours.  I heard her cry out once from being charged but I think she just got scared. 

All in all, it was fun, just a bit nerve racking for a few min.  Going back tomorrow with some help, maybe the outcome will be better. 


Title: Re: Rallied hogs jumping on a bulldog
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on March 27, 2016, 08:59:21 pm
Before I had dogs I sent the mean ass yard dog after 2 hogs that was in mamas yard. I had a 22 rifle and shot the boar in the forehead. To my surprise he didn't drop. He ran off.  The dog went from him to the sow that was with him. I was trying to talk the dog Into catching her but he wouldn't do it. 3 or 4 minutes went by and I'll be danged if that boar didn't come back. He didn't jump on the dog but he put me up a tree.. I honestly believe he came back to defend that sow.  


Title: Re: Rallied hogs jumping on a bulldog
Post by: CHRIS H. on March 27, 2016, 09:49:26 pm
Good feedback and thank you for the responses.

I hunted last week by myself- didn't get to the lease until 11:30 am.  Didn't figure I would find much but I had some pups with me that needed woods time.  I found a good set of tracks not 1/4 mile from where I unloaded my ranger.  Turned a old dog and a pup loose and they didn't find anything on one side of the road but I saw them coming to the road ahead of me about 250 yds.  I get up to where they are going to cross and I see 6-7 hogs tracks.  Some of the biggest tracks I've seen in a real long time.  I figure the smallest hog in the bunch is about 175.

Dogs cross the road and go 224 yds and bayed.  I figure this is good, they going to break and I'll send more pups.  Nope- I walk into the bay with my bulldog expecting they will have one hog bayed and I get about 50 yds from the bay and I can hear several hogs rattled up.  My two dogs would bay together and they would seem to split about 20 yds and then come back.  I listed for a few minutes and decided not to send the bulldog.  To make matters tougher, the hogs were in a good sized creek and I knew flipping one hog was going to be a challenge- but this aint one hog, it is 6 or 7 and I mean real deal hogs they were pressured to go anywhere.  I took the bulldog back to the ranger and walked another pup in.  I sat there for two hours and listened to the best baying Ive heard in a long time. 

All week Ive wondered if I made the right decision; at the end of the day, I think holding the bulldog may have been the right choice.  Ive been in a couple binds before, but my gut told me this was not right and it could go wrong quick.  So, the best news is, one of my pups bayed her tail off at her first real woods hogs for two hours.  I heard her cry out once from being charged but I think she just got scared. 

All in all, it was fun, just a bit nerve racking for a few min.  Going back tomorrow with some help, maybe the outcome will be better. 

I think giving the young dogs that experience  was the right thing to do ..

How'd you get them to stop baying ? Tone or called them out of it ..

I totally see how a rally in a Creek can become a train wreck for you and the dogs very quickly


Title: Re: Rallied hogs jumping on a bulldog
Post by: hoghunter71409 on March 27, 2016, 10:01:54 pm
The young pup came out with a little whooping and hollering; I shocked the old dog on real low.  She knows to come to me on a low shock.


Title: Re: Rallied hogs jumping on a bulldog
Post by: HIGHWATER KENNELS on March 28, 2016, 10:54:25 am
It aint always smart to send in ur only catch dog before u know what u sending him after... I think u read the situation rite and got the best outcome prob... Couldn't been real hard on one man in a situation like that.. I remember several yrs back me and a buddy did the same thing on a big barr.. he was deep in a steep bank creek to where we wouldn't have had no room to work and flip him .... Sometimes its best to watch and work the dogs and live to fight him another day...


Title: Re: Rallied hogs jumping on a bulldog
Post by: hoghunter71409 on March 28, 2016, 04:24:11 pm
Highwater- my thoughts exactly.  The good news is I went back today and bayed the same hogs in the exact same spot; this time I had some help.  Caught two nice hogs (one boar and one sow).  The 2-3 real big hogs in the group must have slipped out the back door.  Going to try again tomorrow.

The best news was my Maltese plott pup made both hogs from start to finish.

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Title: Re: Rallied hogs jumping on a bulldog
Post by: mduggan on March 28, 2016, 07:20:42 pm
Yeah, you made the right call, Jon. Looks like you've those young dogs turned on. Good luck.


Title: Re: Rallied hogs jumping on a bulldog
Post by: CHRIS H. on March 28, 2016, 10:45:33 pm
Awesome !! Glad to see this

Very nice lookin plots too