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Just curious what the guys on here consider long range dogs? The internet dawgers on Facebook believe long range is a dog that will role out in sign? And that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

My opinion of long range would be a dog that hunt 700+ yards in no sign. Just curious as to yalls opinion on the matter

For me a hog dog should keep ranging out until he finds a hog in most cases...

I think you are correct. But different people use different terms and so on. But to me a long range dog stretches out pretty far just looking for something to do. Hell I don't know what my dogs are. Sometimes there 1 to  200 yard foot warmers . And other times there out 6 or 800 yards before they get one lined out. I guess it just depends on what they feel like doing that day.

Mine are the same never consistent. But I've gotten by with them. I just seen a dog for sell the guy called long range and said he only hunts about 100 yards in no sign and he wanted 1200 for him

If the dog averages 1/2 mile or beyond that's long to me.


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I seen this today. Ad posted for a gyp for sale titled "LONG RANGE STRIKE GYP" details read. Stays 3-400 in no sign, in sign she will get gone..... And I just think. Well yeah my dogs are short ranged, hell foot warmers more like but they get in sign it's nothing to see them at 700-.8 miles.... That's called running a track. And how far they go in sign to find a hog speaks more on their nose power than range or bottom to me

I agree though. A Long range dog better stretch their legs 700-1,000 if I drop them on a place their hasn't been a hog in 6 months


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as long as I cant see him thru the pine trees he is a long range  dog  ;D

I always thought you measure your dogs range by have far they go when in no sign. So long range to me would be 700+yds in no sign.

I feel the same rednose, you see people all day on Facebook advertising dogs for sale that stick close unit in sign or a hog is jumped then they are long range, to many folks get bottom and range confused and way to many subpar dogs being sold.

Hunting in loops at a lope and covering 3-4 hundred yards to each side is plenty for me...that is covering about 1/2 mile...and they you add winding and working out tracks is about all I want in a dog...and good hunting dogs will range further out if one stops too long...

To me range is what a dog does in zero sign, or scent. I really don't know what I would call a long range dog. I like a dog hunts from your feet, out. Meaning sit still to long and they get out of pocket. I've hunted with both, and can't say which is better.

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        To start, I agree 100% with those that base a dog being long range on how far that dog goes in zero sign, simply hunting, not running a track. In my opinion there is a BIG difference between range and bottom, range is how far a dog will get out and hunt away from its handler. Bottom is how far that dog will take and work out a track and stick with the hog until it is shut down and bayed. I really don't think that you can do much at all to train either into a dog they are simply bred into the dog no different than the trait to point a bird is bred into a german shorthair.


         the whole notion of "long range" has so many variables its not easy to define, at least not in my opinion. For instance, we hunt deer leases and have around 6500-7000 acres to hunt in one area........ I can drop 2 of my dogs on one of the dirt roads that runs through the lease and if i'm not careful they can be a mile or more away in a few minutes time.........Is that long range? I don't believe it is as the dogs are feeding off of each other and fresh dogs generally have some steam to blow off and get good and stretched out. Say they ran .75 down the road and then hit a track they liked and took it then eventually bayed......... some would say that is a long range dog, I simply don't think that equates to a long range dog. I consider a dog "long range" if you pull up to a spot in the woods off the beaten trail, drop the dog/s and it/they roll out 5-6-700+ yards through unbroken woods just hunting, not running a track just simply hunting. That to me is a much truer representation of a long range dog than the one that ran the road/trail for a mile before he turned off into the woods to hunt......


just my thoughts on range.

I cast hunt so my dogs will basically go until they hit hog sign or come out on another road and I catch them.

I've had them go out 3 to 3 1/2 miles in big timber. Most of the places we hunt there is a road about every 1 1/2 to 2 miles and they will hunt that area and I'll pick em up and go to another area. I do have a hound and a catahoula that I can cast and leave and check back on them every now and again.

Then I have some dogs that I can cast, but they will only go out to 4-500 yards and make a few circles and come back to the truck.

I was once told long range is out of the headlights med range is in the head lights short range is behind the truck lol

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South Texas style haha!!!

Lmao way too much truth to this!!. But on the other hand. We sent a little bird dog cur gyp up north to Decatur with a buddy. She was short range. For us 2-300 yards unless rolling a track. Send her up there and now it ain't nothing for him to have her at a mile-2 miles. He says she just picks a direction and goes until she walks over something she likes....

I use to be caught up in wanting a long range dog.  To me and my style, range and nose power goes hand in hand. If I have a hot nosed dog I want lots of range and hunt, if I have a cold nosed dog I don't need hunt, I'll find the track for the dog that I want to catch and tie that day!

Hard to figure range when you drop a dog in no sign and he makes a 100 yard loop and hits some rooting.  Most people go to catch hogs when they take their dogs out, very few go out to a block where they know there is no hogs just to cast a dog to test his range on a consistent basis.

Totally agree Ben,,, I wish I had about 10 head that would circle me out to 500 yards and check back every so often.. Those old type cattle dogs are nearly impossible for me to get my hands on,,, I can consistently put dogs on hogs within 500 yards of where I turn out even if there is no hot track under my feet..

Yea I don't see dogs that make big loops. They either line out and you have to pick them up or come back on their same track.

the last one I had brent was from a man up in ur neck of the woods... name was Clarence Moore.,, yeller male dog.. Caught a lot of hogs with that dog..

I went to Clarence's house a while back and got an AB from his son. They had a few dogs but dont think they hunt anymore.