EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Let's see what everyone is working with! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170215/3708ded604baf9819381f2caa438a541.jpg) -POCAHONTAS-(CODY 3 X Hope) 6-months been baying since- 4 months
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Good looking hounds! Mine have a long way to go haha..
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Great looking hounds Plotthound.

Man Mike those little black pups sure are sharp looking. Good luck with them.

Tamesha
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Cruz
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He are 2 of my males drifter and blondie cross .
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Have a litter mate female looks just like the light colored one she would be still for pic !


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Man, those sure are some good looking dogs!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170216/95ded135b8903372a640cff4e1d532ee.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170216/4db985af74674912375e2ee9659b1078.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170216/e53de02bf2cb152f5285f8b40479807f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170216/5ea885e25cc7d8e1e4d5baac640125b1.jpg)

These are my two pups and my pit. I'm new to the sport so all I have are these. The pups are 4-1/2 months old and the pit is 2 years. The pit comes from good stock and has been my house dog up until recently. He has a high drive for pigs and actually ripped the fence open in the pictured kennel and killed a piglet I had. The puppies come from a really good line of BMC and are hopefully gonna make some dogs. Both are gritty and will try to catch my mean 30 pound boar/shoat. I haven't had a chance to do many mock hunts yet, but the one that I did they found the piglet, although it took them some time.


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Brownie from the Psenciks in dayton, niece to the old camo dog i got from them years back
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Echo, out of my slick and jane dogs
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You can already tell he is going to be a stud!

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Some 8 month old pups out of a black gyp and marshalls nacho dog

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Cwards Ike x my lady pups


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Plotthounds....where does your Heat/Hammer bred dogs come from.  I have been raising them like that for 20 yrs.  I have alot of other strains in them now but that is where I started.

Nice looking pups everyone...

Plotthounds...I like that tough looking gyp...

Justin...that echo pup is a super nice looking pup...

Thanks reuben, he has added a bit more leg and stretched out more as well, that pic is 3+ mths old now but its the most recent ive got

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I've got these 3 as well. I set a gyp back out of the best dog I've ever owned when I ran her over last year. I'm hunting the gyp now and she is impressing me mightily. Can't wait to see these turn out


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That's what the hopes are. Hes got some badass parents.

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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/1bf44cb3898127f778d49c14404d8bcd.jpg) this is an old picture. She's working on 7-8 months now and been on one hunt. Went 800 in my kate dogs hip pocket and struck and bayed about 10 head with her. Haven't really messed with her since but since kate is laid up I'm gonna start working her on cows and get a handle on her so she's ready for woods when kate is healthy


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You confused me, she gonna be a hog dog or cow dog?

She will be started on cows but ultimately hunt hogs. The starting on cows thing is my uncles method. Gets a handle on dogs and teaches them how to really work a animal rather than just stand there and bark at em. Get a few dogs that really know how to work and bay and you can get sounders bayed more often than a few dogs that just show up and hammer down on one hog. Atleast that's how I figure it


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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170221/38a86414f03effada5f95e279458a405.jpg) there she is a weekend or 2 ago. She's out of CRC's Boomer Male who's pretty dang nice(Real nice off the hood) and a gyp he owns named niko who I haven't seen but have heard she is a fine dog as well.


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Really like the looks of that pup


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Django right and Chief left. 14mo. I have 3 other litter mates to them and a friend has 4. These are the 2 I like to show off lol
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Dang... them are some good lookin' black dogs!

Thanks Mike. Time will tell... but im about to start hitting the woods hard with them. Hoping with those legs, they'll move a track quick and blow the air out of these runners

She is a spotted dog in disguise. She's just about full blooded catahoula as far as I know. Carlton may chime in, Boomer might have a little cur to him but not much if at all. Mom and dad are both Merle dogs. Carlton kept the 3 that looked like the parents. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170221/90e2d5fb374b3722bc1342fa105348c9.jpg) this was another littermate. Originally mine but she up and died on me real young. Not sure why as she acted healthy as all the pups did. She was the coolest most unique dog I've ever seen.


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Partinxwalker pup. Have a full sister to her look identical. Been to the big woods. They both should make, doing pretty good yet


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Cody sharp looking dogs. You could have told me those were my two litter mates I have and I would have thought they were mine. They look almost identical to that. Especially the male on the left. I haven't forgotten to call you either, been meaning to.


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Thanks hamma. I have one gyp that's built right too. Not as tall but leggy for her frame. High and tight in the flanks and looks like a speed demon herself. Also the other male... he is built average no bells and whistles but he's pretty solid.

No problem on the phone call. Things are a bit hectic for most at the moment. I just got done with a 37 day turnaround and on day 38 hit the woods for 3 days... I still don't think I'm caught up on sleep, but things are finally slowing down.

This is the other male, Chipper
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Nice! You got love those long legs and tight flanked dogs. They can stretch it out. Glad you are getting to finally hunt some


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Snapped one of the females at feed time.

This is the female I named ilene. Broke her rear leg at 7mo, chicken winged it to her hip and she made a full recovery.
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This is Emma
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I'm assuming you don't hunt places that have cows on them... Just my opinion, but if the dog needs to be started in cows to learn how to work you should probably be feeding different dogs. My cowdogs get started on cows and my hogdogs get started on hogs that's just how I do it and it works for me and everyone else I know. I hope your way works out for you and you don't end up with hogdogs that trash on cows...

ok, sure I'll regret this because too many people who dont understand or agree will criticize rather than inquire but, MY BEST DOG KATE WILL BAY COWS! if she gets bored and I mean really bored and there ain't a hog around she will go bay a cow. I will not lie(she was used both ways, started on cows before she ever saw hogs). But here's one thing I can guarantee you, and its exactly what my uncle said will separate me with that dog compared to someone else whose dogs genuinely "Trash" on cows. Kate will not put teeth on one, and I say one word she will pull off. So say I'm hunting with some boys I don't know. No hog sign and kate goes and bays on some cows. Them other boys dogs honor bay and get there and start grabbing and chewing on cows getting rough with them. We ride up there and all I say is "Kate, get out" and she comes to me, them other boys spend 15 minutes and cover 300 acres trying to get their mutts to quit do iting with them cows. Now sure kate started it but any dog that will honor a dog baying cows is just as bad(if you consider this a bad trait) so difference being kate had a handle and I called her right off and she didn't tear a cow up, them other boys dogs done screwed 3 calves ankles up and hung a bull by the ears, so you tell me who has the junky trashing dogs?... my uncle is a very big cattleman. Runs a registered Brahman and F1 operation and does some pre-conditioning for the biggest feedlot op in our area. Never thought I'd hear something like that from him but he said it and I believe it. Been working for him like 30 years? Now he does have dogs that are straight hogs won't look at a cow, but each and everyone we're started on cows.. you can break them off. TMATT nowhere did I say it's gonna take cows to teach any of my dogs to "work" but starting out on cows WILL TEACH THEM HANDLE AND HOW TO WORK GROUPS! Work, not bay, I see lots of bay dogs that hunt good and produce hogs but when they're actually baying. They're making 1/2 circles at best. Never leaving that hogs face. I want dogs wagon wheeling the entire time, put back what tries to come out and go back to circling... that brindle pup will already bay hogs. But the cow pasture is where she's gonna learn to work groups and hold bay and really get a handle. Them she will get out behind some hog dogs and it all should transfer over... again, most places I hunt have cows, lots of cows and some good expensive registered herds. Most all these guys cows are dogged to be worked and penned. So I'm up front with them and I ain't ever ran in to one problem with it yet. Now let a dog start getting rough the story won't be the same. But they know well enough my dog going and barking at them ain't gonna make them fall over dead so it's been a non issue for me.


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Slim, I like a dog with a handle too... I just teach my dogs the commands I want them to have before they start on anything. They learn to come and down right after they learn their name. As far as a dog having stock sense and circling, most if not all of that is hereditary. I have not had to "teach" a single dog that I have owned to to circle. If I did, I probably would not own that dog. There are a lot things that can be taught to a dog but stock sense isn't one of them. i know the people in the area that I hunt will not allow you on their place if they think your dog will bay a cow and that is why I don't want my hog dog to even look at cows. The cows in this area are dog broke as well but there have still been incidents of people's cows being ran through fences... Now, as far as whose dog is the problem in the incident you described I would say both are at fault... yours shouldn't have bayed the cows to begin with and theirs shouldn't have honored the bay when they saw it was cows regardless of you being able to call your dog off. I'm going to say this as well, no one dog or type of dog is perfect nor does it work for everyone. If you are ok with your dogs baying cattle then that is your choice. I don't feed your dogs and it's not my place to tell you what kind of dogs to keep. I just thought I would give my opinion in hopes that it would help a young guy out. Good luck with your dogs and I hope they work out for you.

I know few old timers that used dogs in this manner if penning cows its a cow dog hog hunting its a hog dog. That was there way of doing it. the problem with this is if there are cows on your hog hunt your going to have a problem. Now there are dogs that can do what you want cows vs hogs but most dogs can't determine the difference.  So to me rule number one a hog dog should never be started on a cow he should know cattle is never to be messed with. It only takes one bark and you could have a mess on your hand. I don't know bout your area but here if your dog is out baying cows and ain't spose to be the ranchers might put a hole thru em


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Agreed. If they want to circle it they will do it naturally from a young age I don't really see them learning it. Caseys dogs and e's boogie hardly never show treed on the garmin. Usually you just notice they haven't moved in a while. Once you zoom in it's circles. Such a pretty sight. Wish more of mine would do it


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Like I'll leave it at this. The kind of dog I'm after, they way I want and expect one to work, is unlike any other person I've hunted with dogs besides my uncles. The way I'm talking about going about it is the way he's gone about it for 30 or so year and I'll be darned if it ain't worked for him. If I fall flat on my face I'll be sure to let y'all know, but if it works like I'm thinking it's gonna, I'll post some pictures.


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Mr Shelly that is a pretty sight and that's about how my kate dog is more or less. Rarely shows treed and don't bark a lot, and lots of circles


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Two littermate a about 8 months old. Got high hopes for these two. Been waiting a pretty good while for them to come along.
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This gyp is coming two. Haven't put near as much time in her as I should have, but planning on hunting her pretty hard this year.
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I'm a black dog fan lol... Parker?


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Yes sir Swine. I am kinda partial to them black dogs to, if ya can't tell!!

Put one of my prospects in the woods for the first time this past weekend

He is Red P. (Red track) Stretched out to 850
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good deal swine stalker...a hunting dog is born...

Nice! Solid first cast for sure!!


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Brought my little brindle gyp for the first time this past sunday. I was very impressed. She is gonna be a fun one to hunt.
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Teal is buggy tracks

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Looking good Justin. My buggy track is bright green. The loops he was making was from him being on a group of 70-80lb track stars. He caught out on that size in the pen so I was hoping he'd show out... I was still pleased for his first drop tho. He opened up with the big dogs on the strike and stayed silent once they got out from under him.


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Yes sir, you cant beat a youngster that wants to go from day one, hell once they will get gone its usually all downhill from there.

Nothin makes me happier than seeing a young dog hit the ground running, it reminds me of watchin a lab pup retrieve for the first time.

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My little brownie pup did great this evening. Rolled out with my two grown dogs to 1.09 miles and bayed/caught a good barr hog.

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I've got some heat and hammer blood on top and bottom of the pup. But I got the parents from a guy named David Dunaway up here in ms. A good friend of mine. Some of my blood comes from Orville Roberts old stuff I do remember correctly. And I've got a touch of some sarge blood in there some where... I've hunted several litters of these dogs and they either got killed by hogs or something like a car got them. But they do good. Cold nosed fast and gritty. The male I have now is not as good as the gyp I had. But he's gone be a nice little dog. But he's bigger and clumsy every time he runs. Lol


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I hunted with some white deer blood here not too long ago.. good stuff. Nice looking hounds!


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Nice looking pups mr mike sorry taken so long to respond been very busy.


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Thanks, hopefully we can get them raised and going in the woods late summer/early fall.

Iv never hunted plotts. Iv been hunting parker dogs for a while i plan on crossing these plotts over my parker dogs

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Good looking plotts for sure.

Nice looking cur dog Plotthounds hope he turns out for you.

Thank y'all really have high hopes / standards for my Plotts. And definitely high hopes for my cur thank ya!


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