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Title: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on October 16, 2020, 12:18:05 pm
Checked the calendar just the other day. Thought I had a few more days left to get prepped for pups, but as luck would have it, she pushed them out with the cold front. Woke up this morning to 8 new leopard pups out of My ole Sketch bitch. Bred right and bred right. Hopefully they’ll be worth something. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201016/45ff57dfd8d40c88807c248d513bf2b1.jpg)
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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: TheRednose on October 16, 2020, 02:40:18 pm
They're painted up real nice.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Cajun on October 16, 2020, 03:58:43 pm
My money is on the brindle one.  Nice looking pups.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Mike on October 16, 2020, 05:35:09 pm
My money is on the black one... hahahaha!

Good looking pups Slim.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: BA-IV on October 16, 2020, 05:45:39 pm
No love for the painted ones I see  ;D


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on October 16, 2020, 07:38:28 pm
I’m gonna take the leopard gyp every time when it comes to these dogs!  Thanks guys. I am pumped. If anyone is interested in them get with me. I’m gonna have to get em gone pretty quick after weaning. We are in full swing deer season on the ranch and I don’t need 8 extra dogs running around. Not sure on M/F yet but there will be some males i will look to get in to a hunting home.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: NLAhunter on October 17, 2020, 06:42:12 am
Good looking puppies hope they turn out for you

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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on October 17, 2020, 08:54:39 am
Right colors for sure. Good luck with them bud.

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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on October 17, 2020, 09:48:32 am
Right colors for sure. Good luck with them bud.

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Thomas, on the daddy’s top side These go back to those same leopard dogs old man Woodward and them guys started off those dough belly dogs.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on October 18, 2020, 08:50:34 am
Yeah I've been kicking this around pretty heavy. Your pups would be an out cross for me with the distant kinship that you spoke of. I give you a holla this afternoon hopefully. The youngest boy has a baseball tournament this weekend. Those dogs you speak of were really nice dogs. They were high percentage dogs that were very well rounded, in my opinion. I have a feeling your gonna like this litter a lot.

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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on October 22, 2020, 07:22:40 pm
Thomas, I don’t know if my dang Messages on this app ever send. 979-505-6285 holler at me whenever


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: jstankus on October 26, 2020, 07:06:16 pm
Good looking pups.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on November 08, 2020, 09:33:08 am
3 weeks old. Healthy and getting around good. Starting to see a little spunk and personality.

(The plastic tote has got to be the best idea I’ve ever had when it comes to dogs. Works awesome for raising pups)

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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on November 09, 2020, 06:51:39 am
They sure are purdy

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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Shotgun66 on November 10, 2020, 10:16:17 am
Pups are lookin good Slim. Keep up the good work man.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Goose87 on November 16, 2020, 02:15:04 pm
Slim that’s what most of my dog houses are, the IBC plastic totes, I’ve got one attached to a set of kennels that I raise pups in, I took some 4x4 wooden blocks and screwed them close to the corners as I could and fastened 2x4s to the tops of the blocks to create a 4 inch rail all the way around  bottom of the house to prevent any pups from being mashed...


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on December 01, 2020, 04:49:39 pm
https://vimeo.com/483727892 (https://vimeo.com/483727892)
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Got em pretty much all the way weaned. CRC came and picked up his male this past weekend. We were both really excited to get one of these pups back on his yard. He was responsible for breeding sketch 5 years ago or so and had a bad run last year and lost both her mom and dad.
  Everybody else should be headed this way sometime this week to get theirs, and after that I’m waiting on deer season to be over with. Picked up 25k acres about 8 minutes from my front door. I’m ready to get back after it. Last round we made was on September 27th.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Adam G on December 02, 2020, 08:14:25 am
That is a GREAT looking set of puppies!  If they hunt half as good as they look you'll be in business!


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on December 02, 2020, 09:30:12 am
Slim, they for sure look good. The build of that dark leopard pup is super nice.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on December 02, 2020, 10:40:20 am
T-Dog that’s my pick of the litter. Got her sitting shotgun right now headed back from the gin picking up cottonseed


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on December 02, 2020, 11:49:41 am
Lol that’s awesome


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on March 14, 2022, 06:50:30 pm
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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on March 14, 2022, 06:54:05 pm
They’re working these days. 2 males and 3 females doing really good and another male trying to turn on. 1 male and 1 female on cows and rest on hogs right now.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: The Old Man on March 14, 2022, 06:58:13 pm
Well you have to count that next generation a sucess, glad they turned out for you.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on March 15, 2022, 08:09:01 am
Colton those pups must be built more similar to the sire? They look like they have a little more body than ole Sketch. I’m glad they’re working for you.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Austesus on March 15, 2022, 08:33:51 am
They’re looking good Slim, have you been doing much hunting lately? I believe I saw you post about working out of town a lot


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Bred4DaGame on March 15, 2022, 10:34:20 am
Great job looking awesome enjoy em


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on March 16, 2022, 06:22:16 pm
Colton those pups must be built more similar to the sire? They look like they have a little more body than ole Sketch. I’m glad they’re working for you.


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These pups daddy is an own son of sketch’s from her first litter. They go back to her on both sides lol. Line breeding if it works.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on March 16, 2022, 06:25:14 pm
They’re looking good Slim, have you been doing much hunting lately? I believe I saw you post about working out of town a lot


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No sir. Haven’t hunted since I was home in December. Got 2 of my buddies keeping things going while I’m away. I am in Knoxville Tn right now. 994 miles from my home in college station. Me about 1100 from my dog pens.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on March 16, 2022, 07:36:52 pm
I remember that now that you said it. Funny how things revert back. Genetics are crazy


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on April 18, 2023, 10:16:50 am
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Tracker has made a dog down in Kennedy county for my buddy Nathan, here’s a recent pic from him. SJ is right up the road in Wilson county making a hand on cows.
 To my knowledge the rest of litter number 2 has been killed off. Litter number 3 has 3 left alive. They’re all on cows. Ones in Willow Springs, Tx working for Fritsch Cattle Company. 2 are down in the Valley out of Hebbronville working on the East Foundation as cowdogs.

   Litter number 1 has 3 still alive. 2 are cow dogs. A male and female. Brian Adams in Lexington has Scooby and the Clay Iselt has Tiggy around Giddings, and If you’re ever at La Grange or Round Top farm and Ranch and you see a real pretty yella gyp lounging around the store. That is the owners gyp and she is a truck dog. He used to hunt her daddies line of dogs back years ago with my uncle.
Gonna try and get some current pics of all these dogs.
And the best news of all is it looks like sketch finally took again and we’re looking like I’ll have a litter on the ground around may 10. Fingers crossed whatever she has is healthy, she can raise them all, and we can get em to their 2 year old year to finally see just how good they can be on hogs. Time now to HURRY UP AND WAIT.


 


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on April 18, 2023, 12:06:07 pm
Good luck bud. You’re due for some good luck.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on May 07, 2023, 08:10:27 am
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Walked out the house this morning to smoke rolling out the kennels. Sketch dropped some heat the the pressure change last night. 61 days since first tie. Had just spit out number 8 or so when I left for work.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on May 07, 2023, 09:49:03 am
Well they have good color. I hope they have good instincts too.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on May 08, 2023, 07:49:11 pm
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Finally got to go put my hands on Tracker. He is his mommas son through and through. Unfortunately weather didn’t allow for a hunt but we’re gonna get his momma and him together when she gets back in the woods from having these pups. Had to take Shaw down to Nathan who has tracker and pick up my gyp pup from him. He’s got a some dogs go back pretty deep to The Mellmans stock.  (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230509/7c185e58c07811d3d1d24d2dd2769ddc.jpg)
She’s sharp as a tack and pays attention to everything. She went to work with me today. Got to ride and doctor yearlings with me and was chained up behind me at the chute while processing. Had 400 lb yearlings stepping all over the top of her and never flinched. I’m starting back from square one but I am about to build me another set of dogs for next year between her and sketch’s litter.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: BA-IV on May 09, 2023, 08:35:17 pm
Mellman stock is a solid line of dogs. Can be real goofy if they change hands more than once or twice, but they’ve got nose and bottom for sure, hardly any grit unless crossed over something else.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on May 10, 2023, 07:48:50 am
Mellman stock is a solid line of dogs. Can be real goofy if they change hands more than once or twice, but they’ve got nose and bottom for sure, hardly any grit unless crossed over something else.
He has her parents(she’s off a father x daughter cross) and they are pretty nice. His dogs and mine did real good for us when we was hunting together. Was more than happy when he offered one. Their kind of bottom will get you in trouble if you aren’t careful. Atleast in my area where big acreage is all but a thing of the past.  They get a mile out of your permission around here they could be 8 places over.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: NLAhunter on May 10, 2023, 08:26:57 pm
Hope they turn out for you

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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: BA-IV on May 10, 2023, 09:13:25 pm
Mellman stock is a solid line of dogs. Can be real goofy if they change hands more than once or twice, but they’ve got nose and bottom for sure, hardly any grit unless crossed over something else.
He has her parents(she’s off a father x daughter cross) and they are pretty nice. His dogs and mine did real good for us when we was hunting together. Was more than happy when he offered one. Their kind of bottom will get you in trouble if you aren’t careful. Atleast in my area where big acreage is all but a thing of the past.  They get a mile out of your permission around here they could be 8 places over.


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I’ve seen some dogs with that blood pull some hogs straight outta their butts when the hunt was about over with. We hunted hard all day and couldn’t move anything, then all of a sudden she decided to cold trail off some tracks that were there that morning and bayed a good boar in his bed alil over a mile away and we stayed in hogs with the relaying. I’ve also seen the bottom you’re talking about, it’s something I require in my dogs, or at least use to, now I could care less to run one 4 plus hours, much less from daylight to dark.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on May 10, 2023, 09:47:46 pm
Mellman stock is a solid line of dogs. Can be real goofy if they change hands more than once or twice, but they’ve got nose and bottom for sure, hardly any grit unless crossed over something else.
He has her parents(she’s off a father x daughter cross) and they are pretty nice. His dogs and mine did real good for us when we was hunting together. Was more than happy when he offered one. Their kind of bottom will get you in trouble if you aren’t careful. Atleast in my area where big acreage is all but a thing of the past.  They get a mile out of your permission around here they could be 8 places over.


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I’ve seen some dogs with that blood pull some hogs straight outta their butts when the hunt was about over with. We hunted hard all day and couldn’t move anything, then all of a sudden she decided to cold trail off some tracks that were there that morning and bayed a good boar in his bed alil over a mile away and we stayed in hogs with the relaying. I’ve also seen the bottom you’re talking about, it’s something I require in my dogs, or at least use to, now I could care less to run one 4 plus hours, much less from daylight to dark.
Yes sir. I am of a similar opinion just because we are fortunate enough these days to have a decent hog population in a lot of the country were running now.

Love catching the hard to catch ones, and we can get it done at times, but sometimes the numbers and getting a little bit easier hogs caught does more for young dogs I feel, and the country is just getting harder to have those no quit, take them as far as they want to kind of dogs.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on May 11, 2023, 02:08:22 pm
I’m not gonna quit having those stay put, do what it takes types. Places have gotten smaller and will continue to. Technology though has improved and so if my dogs get on a place they shouldn’t be or gonna get into trouble, I’ll mash that tone button and reel them in. If this president gets his way it won’t matter for any of us if we have a 5 minute or five hour dog. This country is doing its best to become third world like. My nephew and several more officers were in a gun fight last night trying to execute a search warrant. The suspect and another officer were both killed. Makes hog dogs seem pretty irrelevant in a sense. I say this not to high jack the thread, but just to feed into the insanity out there and we gotta be careful especially if we find ourselves somewhere we might or might not be 100% ok being. If you don’t have a handle on your dogs it’s probably a good idea to change that if for nothing else but the safety of us and our dogs.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: cajunl on May 11, 2023, 04:19:13 pm
make sure deputy dawg keeps his head down.....the crazies aint worth it!


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Semmes on May 11, 2023, 06:09:24 pm
I second that….

The world is becoming a much smaller place.

The ‘great wide open’ has shrunken into the ‘good few private’.

I’m glad the deputy dawg came out unscathed but feel for the family of his brother!

I had little experience with hunting with some them mellmans, they will get you in a bind lol. Really good dogs tho, in todays world probably better as a outcross unless your ‘freedom rings’ cause the can get gone

And yeah… the crazies ain’t worth it. I see it every day…


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Semmes on May 11, 2023, 06:15:55 pm
Good luck with the pups slim. If the work as pretty as they look and follow in their progenitors steps you arta be set up good.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on May 11, 2023, 10:50:55 pm
I’m not gonna quit having those stay put, do what it takes types. Places have gotten smaller and will continue to. Technology though has improved and so if my dogs get on a place they shouldn’t be or gonna get into trouble, I’ll mash that tone button and reel them in. If this president gets his way it won’t matter for any of us if we have a 5 minute or five hour dog. This country is doing its best to become third world like. My nephew and several more officers were in a gun fight last night trying to execute a search warrant. The suspect and another officer were both killed. Makes hog dogs seem pretty irrelevant in a sense. I say this not to high jack the thread, but just to feed into the insanity out there and we gotta be careful especially if we find ourselves somewhere we might or might not be 100% ok being. If you don’t have a handle on your dogs it’s probably a good idea to change that if for nothing else but the safety of us and our dogs.


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We certainly aren’t shortening our dogs up any and I swear by the tone button and having dogs who understand what it means. That’s one of my biggest things about the mentality I want my dogs to have. Need to be focused on the hog and the task at hand, but also keep their Witt’s about them enough to sense all the other things going on around them. Such as me crawling in there and setting up for a shot over them, or toning them out because they’re somewhere we can’t go do our part for them.

 We have done our part to make sure we have good relationships with land owners, and a good reputation as young men in the community in general. The day before a hunt I am liable to make 10 different phone calls to people to let them know we’re in the area. Seems these days as small town kids who have done some growing up we find people that used to turn us away in highschool, now calling, asking us if we can come put some pressure on the hogs.

Around the precon yard I manage here, I have over 4k acres blocked up, it is probably somewhere between 20-30 land owners. It’s a lot of work to make sure you communicate with that many people effectively enough to stay in good graces with everyone, but if we don’t do it. We’d be sitting at home wishing we had somewhere to go.

I guess what I meant by my above post was in country with enough hogs, if you’re simply trying to get young dogs kicked on and going the right direction. Understanding what we’re asking of them, I’d have to say I feel a caught hog, and further more multiple in a day or short time frame, can do more for a young dog, than catching one or 2 a week at the end of mile(s) long races. We know what our seasoned dogs are capable of and love when they go and remind us and we get to latch hold of a good hog after a long race, just feels like sometimes we didn’t accomplish as much when the dust settles if the year old pups got left behind or fell out half way through and didn’t get to see it from start to end. Once you get them sure enough going and they flip that switch. Then comes the fun part “how good are you?”

I am still after a kennel full of “you hear them bark, we’re gonna see the meat at the end” dogs.  Hopefully this cross is another step towards that.

As for the shooting Thomas, I saw the headlines when I woke up for work this am. Heart breaking. I know Dillion through mutual friends/acquaintances. I love a good small town LEO who is out there for the right reasons, he sure seems like one. Hate he had to be apart of an event like that. Everyday it’s another headline make me truly think I won’t ever have kids. I can’t hardly stand this world anymore. Certainly not anything I want to bring children of mine in to. Not a world where I don’t even think I can protect them from someone who wishes to do them harm.

  I just wish everyone would leave everyone the heck alone. As long as you arent taking from or hurting someone else, I don’t care what you do. Don’t shove your beliefs and opinions in my face and I promise not to shove mine on you. Even if I think mine are better lol.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on May 11, 2023, 11:02:02 pm
Good luck with the pups slim. If the work as pretty as they look and follow in their progenitors steps you arta be set up good.
Thank you sir. She had 10 and we are down to 8. Runt didn’t make it through the first night and there was a 2nd that was about 2/3 the size of the others that expired yesterday. Really sucked. For first time, ignorantly, I made the brainless decision to grab a bale of shavings from the horse barn at work and put it in her welping pen. I think it is what cost me for sure the 2nd one if not both. Beat myself up pretty good after fighting for an hour to keep the 2nd alive. Not forsure it’s what happened, but sketch is a great mom so either she knew something was up and they weren’t viable, or I made a mistake with the shavings. 39 pups now and knock on wood she’s gonna wean 37 of them if these 8 make it.

Sadly I’m a huge gyp man. I’ve gotten along with them better, they’ve made the better dogs in this blood it seems, and I just always seemed to pick them. The litter was split at 5 and 5 and both she lost were females. The remaining 3 ain’t leaving, and looks like we’re keeping some males for ourselves too instead of sending them to buddies and other dog men we foster relationships with to really test these dogs. Part of it, but sucks none the less.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on May 11, 2023, 11:04:54 pm
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Here they are. 2nd pic is whats left. Freaking shavings. What was I thinking.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Cajun on May 12, 2023, 06:13:19 am
I’m not gonna quit having those stay put, do what it takes types. Places have gotten smaller and will continue to. Technology though has improved and so if my dogs get on a place they shouldn’t be or gonna get into trouble, I’ll mash that tone button and reel them in. If this president gets his way it won’t matter for any of us if we have a 5 minute or five hour dog. This country is doing its best to become third world like. My nephew and several more officers were in a gun fight last night trying to execute a search warrant. The suspect and another officer were both killed. Makes hog dogs seem pretty irrelevant in a sense. I say this not to high jack the thread, but just to feed into the insanity out there and we gotta be careful especially if we find ourselves somewhere we might or might not be 100% ok being. If you don’t have a handle on your dogs it’s probably a good idea to change that if for nothing else but the safety of us and our dogs.


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We certainly aren’t shortening our dogs up any and I swear by the tone button and having dogs who understand what it means. That’s one of my biggest things about the mentality I want my dogs to have. Need to be focused on the hog and the task at hand, but also keep their Witt’s about them enough to sense all the other things going on around them. Such as me crawling in there and setting up for a shot over them, or toning them out because they’re somewhere we can’t go do our part for them.

 We have done our part to make sure we have good relationships with land owners, and a good reputation as young men in the community in general. The day before a hunt I am liable to make 10 different phone calls to people to let them know we’re in the area. Seems these days as small town kids who have done some growing up we find people that used to turn us away in highschool, now calling, asking us if we can come put some pressure on the hogs.

Around the precon yard I manage here, I have over 4k acres blocked up, it is probably somewhere between 20-30 land owners. It’s a lot of work to make sure you communicate with that many people effectively enough to stay in good graces with everyone, but if we don’t do it. We’d be sitting at home wishing we had somewhere to go.

I guess what I meant by my above post was in country with enough hogs, if you’re simply trying to get young dogs kicked on and going the right direction. Understanding what we’re asking of them, I’d have to say I feel a caught hog, and further more multiple in a day or short time frame, can do more for a young dog, than catching one or 2 a week at the end of mile(s) long races. We know what our seasoned dogs are capable of and love when they go and remind us and we get to latch hold of a good hog after a long race, just feels like sometimes we didn’t accomplish as much when the dust settles if the year old pups got left behind or fell out half way through and didn’t get to see it from start to end. Once you get them sure enough going and they flip that switch. Then comes the fun part “how good are you?”

I am still after a kennel full of “you hear them bark, we’re gonna see the meat at the end” dogs.  Hopefully this cross is another step towards that.

As for the shooting Thomas, I saw the headlines when I woke up for work this am. Heart breaking. I know Dillion through mutual friends/acquaintances. I love a good small town LEO who is out there for the right reasons, he sure seems like one. Hate he had to be apart of an event like that. Everyday it’s another headline make me truly think I won’t ever have kids. I can’t hardly stand this world anymore. Certainly not anything I want to bring children of mine in to. Not a world where I don’t even think I can protect them from someone who wishes to do them harm.

  I just wish everyone would leave everyone the heck alone. As long as you arent taking from or hurting someone else, I don’t care what you do. Don’t shove your beliefs and opinions in my face and I promise not to shove mine on you. Even if I think mine are better lol.


I agree on all points. It is getting harder and harder finding places to run these Plotts and other long range dogs. Tritronics and Garmen have brought dog training to a whole new level. I myself do not know why anyone would want to be in law enforcement in todays world when it seems so many hate groups are putting a target on them. That being said coming from a family that has several law enforcement people in it, and friends,  I have the utmost respect and admiration for them.
  Slim those are some pretty pups.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: WayOutWest on May 12, 2023, 10:23:11 am
Nice looking pups, I had a mother and daughter that I raised 4 litters off and never lost a pup. A good brood bitch is worth her wt. in gold. I was running different dogs before that with bad mom's and it just sucked to have to worry and fuss with them. I have never used shavings till they are older. Always used blankets and changed them regular. I put a 2x4 on edge about 3" above the floor so the momma couldn't squish one against the wall. Good luck with these pups Slim.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on May 12, 2023, 11:48:34 am
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This is a whelping box I built for a buddy. It’s made out a air handler box, so it’s metal and insulated. There’s the door for the gyp to go in and out and to the left of that there is another cover that can be removed so that a fan can be put on it. There’s a screen on the inside to keep the dogs off of the fan. One end has a handle all the way across so that it can be moved by one person and wheels on the opposite end. There is a full size door on the end with wheels so that you can in and out pretty easy to get pups or clean it. There is a bumper rail around the bottom as well to help prevent pups getting mashed between the wall and the mother. There’s also a place to hang a heat lamp inside.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on May 12, 2023, 11:51:18 am
And thanks for the well wishes fellas! I know he and I both appreciate it. He’s family of course but way more than that to me. He’s a good man and I’m proud of him. Don’t think I don’t give him hell though! No free passes here, lol.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: l.h.cracker on May 12, 2023, 05:47:40 pm
Nice pups Slim hope they live up to yalls standards.

That's a terrible thing that happened out there and yall ain't lieing the world is about as messed up and volatile as it can be these days it sure does make me worry about my kids and the next generation as a whole.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on May 16, 2023, 09:24:24 pm
Unfortunately momma has lost 3 pups. All females. She’s doing her damndest, but she’s got a few bad tits and I guess there just wasn’t enough to go around.
 Seems she’s down to a manageable 7 and is taking care of them. This weather surely hasn’t helped. She’s been moved into the garage in a crate the last few days. Not ideal but the weather just isn’t playing fair. She’s got one left that is bit smaller but I’m helping him along with a bottle as I can. Seems he’s doing good. If we can get them all to the 2 week mark this Sunday I think we will be in the clear. Tough deal as we were hoping to move to all females between me and my two hunting buddies. Luckily Rhett and Tim have a litter on the ground a bit older than these out of some good dogs and we got plenty stock to raise to keep us where we want to be come next spring. I think I’ve got my 3 picked barring any of them demanding they stay here as they get closer to weaning. Last 2 females are the sure enough bigguns of the bunch and they will be staying here.
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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: TheRednose on May 18, 2023, 11:49:39 am
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This is a whelping box I built for a buddy. It’s made out a air handler box, so it’s metal and insulated. There’s the door for the gyp to go in and out and to the left of that there is another cover that can be removed so that a fan can be put on it. There’s a screen on the inside to keep the dogs off of the fan. One end has a handle all the way across so that it can be moved by one person and wheels on the opposite end. There is a full size door on the end with wheels so that you can in and out pretty easy to get pups or clean it. There is a bumper rail around the bottom as well to help prevent pups getting mashed between the wall and the mother. There’s also a place to hang a heat lamp inside.

That's a sweet dog yard right there, and a really really nice whelping box too!


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: TheRednose on May 18, 2023, 11:59:22 am
Unfortunately momma has lost 3 pups. All females. She’s doing her damndest, but she’s got a few bad tits and I guess there just wasn’t enough to go around.

Hey Slim I ran into this exact issue too when I bred my very best bitch who was 7 years old last year. She delivered 7 and we had to give her a shot to induce labor to get the last 3 out (still born). She only had 4 or 5 good tits, and so she picked two she didn't want and moved them out on her own. Pretty crazy that she knew, we ended up losing her due to a uterine infection but I was able to save and raise all 5 pups.

Best of luck to you with the pups, they sure look nice. I've been following along with your dogs progression and it's been fun to see. Stay after it!


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on May 18, 2023, 12:27:07 pm
Rednose, this guy is rich so he has the best of everything! He hunts coast to coast and north to south borders. He’s got the best of the best blooded dogs from the who’s who in that world. Some people just have it made!!!


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on June 22, 2023, 06:01:09 pm
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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on June 23, 2023, 06:07:03 am
Nice pups bud


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on September 21, 2023, 05:07:13 pm
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230921/eff0a284e731e7dde71d385579b334e1.jpg) spoon
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Guëro


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Misdemeanor (misty)


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Arkansashunter96 on September 22, 2023, 01:12:34 am
Real nice pups with some character


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on October 16, 2023, 10:18:49 pm
https://vimeo.com/875015711 (https://vimeo.com/875015711)

6 months old and 1st time for my guero and spoon to see a hog. Misty’s 2nd. Let hog out of the trailer and it was on from the jump. Come on January.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on October 17, 2023, 09:46:27 am
Maybe it’s just me but I can’t get it to open.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on October 17, 2023, 12:04:49 pm
Hold over the link and click open in browser thomas. Or atleast that makes it work for me. If I just click the link it won’t open it.

 For any of the older crowd on here that was on here 10+ years ago. That JRT shorty in that video I just picked up from Mr. James and Clayton Hollub over here in schulenburg. Him and another had gotten after the neighbors cat and needed a new home so I went and got them.

Here’s same link copied from internet and not the Vimeo app. Maybe this works. https://vimeo.com/875015711


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on October 17, 2023, 12:32:00 pm
Your a genius it worked.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on December 26, 2023, 08:18:37 am
Lost guero to the fm road about 1/2 mile from the house. Always something with these sketch pups. Christmas eve eve I took spoon and Misty and sketch down to the bottom behind my house and casted them. 8 months old First time for them to be collared and sent “hunting”. They left like some 3 year olds off the flatbed right behind sketch. They made it about 400 with sketch and split off. Any track spoon comes across, he’s gonna tell you and everything else in the woods about it. Lmao.  His style, how he travels, and trail’s, to me is way more “houndy” than what these leopard dogs typically are. Misty is tighter mouthed. Only barks if she can see what she’s chasing. They chastised a deer or 2 and then a few cows. Let em run for an hour. Only went to go get them off the cow. https://vimeo.com/897899726

Gathered them back after sketch returned from the neighbors. Went to other end of the branch and casted them behind the working pens. They drop down in to the branch go about 300 and stand something up. It broke in short burst a couple of times 50 yards or so. Away then back. Away then back. Kept waiting to hear a coyote howl as I suspected that’s what they had come across. Though that never came. I waited a little to long to grab Lizzo and head to them. They broke south(only big hogs run that way in the past) and race was on. Picked them up about a mile down the branch where it crosses the road. No hog to be had, but they did as good as I could have asked for that being first time out. https://vimeo.com/897899966 now we wait for 3rd weekend of January.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on December 26, 2023, 09:33:32 am
Man I hate you lost your pup. Probably means that pup was good. It doesn’t seem to happen to the sorry ones.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on June 19, 2024, 11:09:42 am
Well, I’m About a week out on 2 litters that are hopefully going to afford me the opportunity to keep this family of dogs I’ve been breeding going.

The important one is We paired sketch up with a young male dog of T-dogs that Thomas seems to be really high on, and from the little I’ve seen and heard on him, rightfully so. Needed an outcross and wanted it to be something my style, but also to build on some areas I think my dogs could be better in. Some good conversation with Thomas was had about what those areas were, and he offered me to breed to his Ray dog. Cross Looks real good on paper , time will tell. I know one thing for almost certain, these pups are going to be about as pretty and colored up pups as you could ask for(if colored dogs are your thing lol).
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The other breeding is looking like a really tight bred accident, either that or a coyote or stray got to her at the house. I should be able to tell as soon as they’re born. Be cool if it works out to some good pups, but it’s definitely tighter than I would normally go. Be interested to see if anyone else has any experience on a full sibling cross. Their daddy was of no kin to these leopard dogs so hoping they have enough vigor to keep them from being deformed or genetically undesirable.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: WayOutWest on June 19, 2024, 07:22:37 pm
I don't think you will be sorry, I have watched T dial these dogs in for 17 or 18 years and they have gotten better and better.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on June 20, 2024, 07:30:00 am
I don’t think you’ll get deformities from the full sibling cross. It’ll be interesting to see what the pups throw back to most. It might tell you a lot. I’ve talked to some old timers that said to breed brother sister until you started getting the undesirables. For some that will be the first cross and for others it may take a few times of doing it. They told me that the deeper you go the more things you will see but to not worry, just cull the the undesirable ones. Then once you’re to the point that you only get one or two quality pups, then those are bred together and the quality pups out of that are what you use to outcross or breed back to other relatives that aren’t as close. They called this setting your genes. This means your selected pups are as close to ideal as think you’re going to get. The pair you start with should be the same. If they aren’t VERY similar then it might take longer. You have to select for type each litter, breeding like dogs to like dogs. I haven’t ever tried this so I can’t say if it works or not but I understand why it would. My taste in what I want is very specific, so I look for certain markers in every pup so that I increase my odds in raising a pup that is to type in every way. I don’t know what guys like Cajun use for strategy, but there is always more than one way to skin a cat. It’s kinda like the navigation on a vehicle. You put the destination in and it gives you two or three different routes you can take. You have to choose the route that suites you beat.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on June 20, 2024, 01:04:18 pm
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Misty had 5 Juneteenth baby’s yesterday evening. 3 females and 2 males. Them leopard genes run deep.  Now we wait on sketch.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Cajun on June 20, 2024, 01:33:35 pm
Whew we, now we are talking. That is the right color. Cant hardly go wrong with a brindle dog. I had a accidental cross years back and was going to kill them all. Glad I didnt because they really made nice dogs. Only thing that surprised me was they didnt reproduce as good as they were. Spotted dogs run a close second so I think you are going to be fine.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Hollowpoint on June 20, 2024, 03:31:32 pm
I like the looks of them, I think they'll be just what you want out of them.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on June 20, 2024, 08:56:46 pm
Cajun was your accidental breeding a cross that you would’ve made?


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Cajun on June 21, 2024, 01:06:14 pm
  I would not have made it at the time. It was a 1/2 brother, 1/2 sister cross and they were a year old. I gave them all away but kept a male and female.  They started young and I ended up selling the male. He was about as ugly a plott as I have seen except for his running gear. The guy I sold him to ended up getting out and sold him. The guy that bought him told me he was a all day, all night dog that would be bayed somewhere. His sister ended up being the same kind of dog. Unbelievable stamina. The male died young and the female never reproduced what she was altho she produced good usable dogs.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on June 21, 2024, 01:31:17 pm
I’ll be. You just never know for sure with genetics. Even a successful cross this time may not produce the same a second time. I guess it works that way in all species. I’m the oldest of three kids. I’ve told my younger sisters all their life that I’m the reason that they are here. Momma and daddy were so proud of what they did the first time that they tried twice more to duplicate me. They gave up when they realized it was beginners luck. The youngest said no that they finally just got it right after three tries. We tell the middle sister, well one of those two stories is correct, but at least they loved you anyway!


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Cajun on June 21, 2024, 08:00:28 pm
  I told you wrong. It was a full brother to a full sister cross.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on June 21, 2024, 09:59:14 pm
You said he was UGLY. Do you know where that UGLY came from? I ask just out of curiosity, wondering if you could see that it came from something up close or if it was from further back.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Cajun on June 22, 2024, 01:43:07 pm
He just had a coke bottle head. I called him Pin Head. Dont know where it came from. His sister was a good looking dog.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: NLAhunter on June 23, 2024, 07:47:11 pm
Good looking puppies hope they work out for yall

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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on June 25, 2024, 09:04:52 am
Sketch laid down and had hers yesterday evening. Think we got 10 or 11 In this pile. Some Merles, some leopards, brindles, even a reverse cur or 2. Looks like everyone is doing well this morning. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240625/3c74b491a204e5f9c4d4617418e2c5c0.jpg)

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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: WayOutWest on June 25, 2024, 06:06:12 pm
Good luck with them, that's a colorful pile of pups.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on June 26, 2024, 01:54:33 pm
Thanks guys. I’m excited. Ready for them to be a year old already. She split the litter right down the middle.5 boys and 5 girls(I was originally really excited because I thought it was 7 girls and 3 boys). And I believe I already have my pics made lol. 2 of them atleast. Gonna try and keep atleast 3 maybe 4 out of this litter for myself.
   
 Boys

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Girls (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240626/7486b712e64aa2044f02b1aefa7c41a9.jpg)


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on June 27, 2024, 04:56:08 pm
Those are right purdy Slim!

This is my six month old. He’s a lizard hunting fool and will work all day at catching one.

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This is his littermate sister that my King Smitty has.
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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: WayOutWest on June 27, 2024, 08:37:47 pm
Man, if they hunt half as good as they look you'll be in high cotton Thomas.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on August 29, 2024, 10:30:54 am
Sadly we lost another sketch offspring last night. Gyp belonged to my partner Tim we called Sister Sara out may 2023 litter. She was the only one that didn’t fire off by a year old. She was real shy so Tim had kept her at his house loose to grow up and let her just be a dog.
  She finally came out of her shell so Tim took her to his pens a couple weeks ago. Last Friday night I was going to make a round and Tim couldn’t make it so I went and grabbed some of his gyps. Last minute decision I jumped Sara on the trailer.

She took a few casts to figure it out but she started going with other dogs. Her brother my spoon dog rigged a hot track and we dumped box. She ran it half a mile with other dogs and stayed bayed for 20 minutes till we got there and caught the hog. I was proud of her and Tim was happy to hear she was starting to act like maybe she wanted to work.

Last night Tim and Rhett made a run while I had some work. Sara packed up with a little older gyp and went and struck a good boar. They caught him and Sara caught a tooth behind the shoulder. Got in to her chest cavity and from short conversation with Tim, sounds like it ended up getting a piece of one lung. Vet trip was made, they closed her up but she was given a 50/50 shot. She passed about midnight last night in his living room.

Real kick in the nuts for Tim. He literally made the comment over the phone as he was headed to load up last night. “4 years in to this rebuild and I think we’re close”. We still have 4 of her littermates and Tim’s got plenty dog power coming up so it ain’t the end of the world, but dang ya never want one to go out the 2nd time out.  Part of it.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on August 29, 2024, 02:09:18 pm
Hate to hear that. It would’ve been nice to see how she finished out compared to her littermates. As we all know, luck has a whole lot to do with this game we love.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on August 30, 2024, 02:11:56 pm
Hate to hear that. It would’ve been nice to see how she finished out compared to her littermates. As we all know, luck has a whole lot to do with this game we love.


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Yessir, I kind of was thinking the same thing. With her being the outlier of the 6 we kept back. Oh well, charge it to the game, and put another pup in her spot.
 


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on August 30, 2024, 02:18:28 pm
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Brought cicero to a buddies house last night to watch the football game. His old lady ruined him in 15 minutes lol.


And here’s some quick shots of the whole gang(most of em) today.
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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: WayOutWest on August 30, 2024, 05:19:28 pm
Sho enuf purty pups.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on November 12, 2024, 09:04:45 am
Went and picked up the last member of the class of 2025 for us this weekend. Courtesy of [mention]t-dog [/mention] and his nephew. She is a pretty little thing. Excited to watch her and the rest of her cousins grow. T-dog could tell you how this pup is related the sketch pups. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241112/d82615c4355c25b51b900f25205f6ad7.jpg)
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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on November 12, 2024, 12:30:54 pm
Slim your pups momma (Moon) is a great aunt to the sire (Ray) of your sketch pups. Moon is also a great aunt to Ranger, the sire of this new pup. Ranger and Ray are half brothers, same sire (Uno). Ranger is also Rays uncle on the bottom side because Rays momma and Ranger are half brother sister as well, both out of Raylynn.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: WayOutWest on November 12, 2024, 03:13:08 pm
Pay attention Slim, you're going to be tested on this!


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on November 12, 2024, 09:16:40 pm
Those are right purdy Slim!

This is my six month old. He’s a lizard hunting fool and will work all day at catching one.

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This is his littermate sister that my King Smitty has.
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now the kicker just so it’s all right here for me to remembers How does king tie in to all of this?

He and I both cannot wait to get him going. I’m staring at him now in the headlights. He’s growing to be a fine built animal.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on November 12, 2024, 09:20:54 pm
Pay attention Slim, you're going to be tested on this!
Yeah no kidding! My brain is fried just reading that lol. Between me and Tim, we now have like 15 or so dogs that are all kin in some form or fashion. Hopefully a lot of the pups make the grade and we can keep that number up there.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on November 12, 2024, 09:32:10 pm
King’s momma (Reba) is a littermate sister to Moon(the mother of this pup from Deputy Dawg). King’s daddy (Ken) is Ray’s uncle. Ken and Ray’s momma (Ava) are littermates. Ken is a half brother to Ranger (the second pups dad), they are out of Raylynn.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Cajun on November 13, 2024, 07:11:04 pm
Tdog and Slim, those are some really good looking pups and young dogs. Hope they make the cut for you.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on November 13, 2024, 08:52:10 pm
I appreciate it Cajun. Slims pup looks more like an Australian cross than a border collie though.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Cajun on November 13, 2024, 09:55:10 pm
Tdog, It does not matter how they look, it is how they finish out that counts. The better they get, the better looking they are. Your dogs have come full circle. They started out looking to be  Plott , Border collie and now back to a Walker. That is a sharp looking youngster tho.


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on November 15, 2024, 10:15:35 am
Think we have settled on “Miley Cyrus” for the little gyp pup. To join Lulu, doodle, rusty, and Cicero out of my gyps.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on November 15, 2024, 04:32:12 pm
She’s gonna be crazy as a bed bug!


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: WayOutWest on November 15, 2024, 06:36:17 pm
LMAO


Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: Slim9797 on November 18, 2024, 12:19:30 pm
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16ish year old young man came and got a spoon x Misty pup from me this summer. Had done some hog hunting with some friends on his families land and figured he wanted to try to have a few dogs.

Every couple weeks he sends me an update. I told him pack that puppy around and let him be a dog. He is doing just that and looks like he’s doing pretty good for a 6 month old puppy. Happy to see a young guy excited about this stuff like I was at that age, and not just worried about the next update of Fortnite.

Have another pup same litter with some buddies younger brother about the same age. He is doing well with her from what I hear as well. Can’t wait to get these boys and their pups out with us this spring.


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Title: Re: Next generation
Post by: t-dog on November 18, 2024, 08:20:36 pm
Good to see


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