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America just died today we have officially became a second class nation. The America I love and served has been heading down this path for some time. If the liberals keep striking it won’t be long will have the biggest gap between the haves and have nots in our history. 15 dollars for minimum wage will crush the economy. And if you didn’t know theyjust shut down the pipe line 52 thousand people lost there jobs today and the border wall was stopped. This is good new for the drug lords of Mexico who send thousand of illegals across daily to set up drug hubs all across our country hidden as landscaping framing crews roofing crews and so on.and let’s not forget the sex trafficking to thousands of young girls and middle age women go thought to be run sways and such are taken used then shot and thrown out. If y’all remember this same thing happened when Obama shut the pipe line down gas went to 4.50 a gallon in Dallas. It crushed my business. And had to work for some one else and have never fully recovered. It’s building for the perfect storm gun ammo will be next. We have seen this in history hundreds of time it ends in revolt and revolution. And in most cases it don’t have a good outcome.


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Thats not what cnn says lol

CNN is owned and operated by liberals with big money that control the media 


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All TV news is controlled by the same 6 corporations and are fake/ CIA brain washing with the exception of OANN. IE operation mockingbird. Highly recommend understanding that. I was obviously joking. I dont think the fight is over, God wins, USA will not be a communist country ran by criminals

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https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2021/01/20/trump-ode-to-the-corporation/

I am not happy but calm down. 15 dollars a hour will lead to more incentive based pay jobs. Like sales folk have had for some time. Like in construction they will pay by a % of the job. Put your people all on 1099s or cash.

Guns are not going away. They don’t know who has what.

The military is not full of tree hugging liberals.

Now is the time to reflect in my opinion. Did a man that has soft clean hands really have your best interest at heart or did you get sold?

Did he do right by us with the covid stuff?

I can tell you the Midwest farmers realized he sold them when they couldn’t sell crops before covid when he started the trade war. I know a hand full of farmers that no longer have a family farm because of it.

Oil field work is what it is. The oil field was do ited once the Saudi and Russia started the price war about 8 months ago. Or am I wrong? I might have started to recover and is messed up again. It is the nature of the business.

15 bucks a hr won’t change skilled jobs or teck jobs. Most workers in construction make 15 or less unless they work for themselves. 15 dollar min wage will make your hamburger meal that is currently 8 bucks to 15 bucks. It will make your Walmart grocery go up. There hasn’t been money in farming in 50 yrs is what all the farmers I know tell me as they drive off in there 75 thousand dollar pickup to go to there 700 thousand dollar house. I could be wrong tho. I spent 8 yrs in the uniform and most people I was in with came from poor rural areas or inter city’s that could find a job and no money for school with no learned skill. 80 % came from Democratic Party back ground where the meth was they are for poor people which is far from reality. Then as most people do as they work for stuff and move up they realize that it was all fake to control your thought process.


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I think covid was released on purpose. I don’t wear a mask and haven’t gotten sick. But most of my family has caught it none where really sick two days at the most. Everyone that has caught it that I know wears mask. There wearing that all day breathing in everything the mssk has gathered during the day. Idk fella drugs have killed millions and destroyed millions of families did they shut the country down for that no. The thousands of illegals get everything we have to offer for free and they broke the law to get here yet the democrats want to give them amnesty. Do what do what are you kidding me. There are vets that can’t afford rent because they can’t work. But a illegal with 5 kids and a wife get every program we have to offer and don’t even have a legit SS number. And run a landscape crew with no insurance no EIN and get 15 grand back each yr on taxes come on.


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Yea, I agree with most of what you say. Farming was not dead 4 years ago. They have a 75,000 dollar truck for tax purposes. 2,500 pounds or heavier is farm equipment and eligible for tax write off. A lot are leasing land to big corporate companies. 

Covid is man made and was released during the “trade war” with China. People that think it wasn’t also believed that aids came from someone mating with a monkey.

I had covid in September and beat it. It was the way you described it. My 89 year old Vietnam Vet grandpa was on 100% supplied oxygen for 3 days. He was drinking Budweiser’s 2 weeks later.

I am telling you this military voted Trump last go round and he stole from their budget and didn’t do what he promised. Do you think they voted for him this time? He messed over the party now we have a president that is appointing transgenders to positions because they are transgender.

My take is we had the right party in office just the wrong guy. He sold us all. I look back and should have listened to all the contractors he didn’t pay from his projects.

A painters apprentice starts at 23 bucks a hour union and 15 non- union 4 years ago up north and plenty of people make it work. Keep in mind painting is one of the lowest pain trades. People will be okay.

McDonald’s and Walmart already cut jobs with machines. Prices might go up a little cause people out there will accept that they have to raise the prices but that is BS. Big companies seen this coming a while ago. Don’t believe everything you read on the internet. It was probably written by a chinamen trying to stir stuff up.

I don’t read anything on the internet. Anyone that has a business can get the tax write off on a 3/4 truck but most small business guys can’t afford the price tag. You have to have the money to buy that. Most farmers around me and there are a ton of them they use dump trucks 18 wheelers and all those big machine to do the work the big trucks are just a luxury. My son worked for a farmer for several yrs he is very wealthy and paid my son 10 bucks a hr he went to work for a dirt company and makes 6 figures. I have worked in Boston dc Allen town Charlotte and ya they pay a little better but at the same time houses are double the price of here and might only make a few dollars more and guess what the illegals are there to.


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Wish my Grampa was still here to tell me...

“Boy this ain’t number 2 America’s been through a hell of a lot worse...”

He was a big history buff, thanks to him and my Uncle I read things like

Thomas Paine’s “Common Sense”

the Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin
 
and most importantly “the Federalist papers”

I was very disappointed when these books, which are so valuable in what they teach us about our country, we’re glossed over in high school.

I believe that’s part of our problem as a nation, people can sing you a whole album of pop music lyric for lyric but ask them if they can name the first ten amendments in the constitution.

America has been fighting with itself since the first continental congress couldn’t get their act together to pay the army!

Many in the Army wanted to make George Washington the ruler of America for life,
but Washington spoke against it, and it’s one of the great speeches in the history of this nation.

I just wish more people knew about this kind of stuff...

I still believe in what Grampa said about this country, it would just be nice to hear it from someone who had been through what he had been through.

We have seen worse and God willing we will be around to see better.


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Yes we been thru some stuff. But it’s hard to reverse ideology. 


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One thing our grandfathers and founding fathers never battled was big tech and social media and the way they’re used to manipulate the minds of millions, Trump might not have been the savior this country needs but at least he was the best thing this country had going for itself in years, decades should I say, it’s hard for one man to fix 30 year’s worth of constitutional decay in 4 year’s all the while being bombarded with the foolery he was, yes I believe COVID-19 was all man made and think it’s a joke, yes there have been people “die” from this but how many were already on their way out with other ailments before COVID, the establishment tried everything thing they could to bring Trump down and had to come up with this, and when I say establishment I mean the 1% that call the shots not a certain nation or nationality....

Opinions vary, I have personally seen plenty of people who’s “ideology” has changed be it political, religious or otherwise.

My only reply is that historically we as a nation have faced things just as overwhelming as what we are now going through.

I’ve been a third-party voter since I started voting and I listened as Ross Perot warned us about NAFTA and the Republicans all voted for it and Clinton signed it into law.

That started the final destruction of America as a producer of anything meaningful to its own citizens:

We stopped making penicillin and other essential medicines in this country back around 2006 2007 and that happened with out a single vote in Congress but you bet people on both sides were paid heavily to send the majority of our pharmaceutical industry to China.

And as I’m sure y’all know that is just the tip of the iceberg we are headed toward while the band is playing a waltz...

This isn’t something that happened overnight and it couldn’t possibly be solved by one man as President.

I know that might rub some people the wrong way and I’m glad I live in a place where I can voice my opinion no matter how far outside the normal it may be, on politics or whatever I choose.


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We could go on all day about who is who or who is wrong or right. I definitely have my beliefs. What bothers me most is the hypocrisy that has been and continues to mold our nation and society. Most everyone of us have family that has fought or died for our nation. Our flag has been a symbol world wide of strength, freedom, pride and bravery. We were a nation founded on Christianity.  We no longer display any of these symbols. We have put the Antichrists in power. We are headed to a bad place and whether or not we’ve been through worse remains to be seen. The further we get away from God and the liberties this nation was founded upon the more likely we are to not be a nation. I am scared for my children and what they are going to have to face. I fear that raising them to have respect and a good work ethic is going to be to their detriment. I pray that the God that I love and worship and have raised them to love and worship will keep them safe and that he will pull our nation through. Weak minds and bleeding hearts will not allow us to prevail as the greatest nation in the world and nor will abandoning God the FATHER that made it possible in the first place. We have become cowardly, unethical, naive, disloyal, self serving, and with displaced spirituality. Our forefathers and civil rights leaders that fought so hard only for it all to be trashed are likely rolling over in their graves. My prayers are for this nation and each of you and your families.


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Agreed, our first amendment is being taken by big tech, most truthers are now banned to control the narrative, our votes dont count anymore wich should make all americans mad despite your political view, tons of fraud evidence and the rigged courts wont even look at it. usawatchdog.com

  Judge,  Like evreybody else I have been watching the world go crazy and it actually started during the Bush era and then when Obama took over, it really started going downhill. I hope I am wrong but do not look for it to get better under Bidden. He is really going to kill the Oil industry.

Ya it’s going to get bad. Biden said we need more plexiglass hues what oil based product   I truly don’t get how people think that we can get better this has been a progressive fall for long as I can remember. Now the economy changes up and down new things come and go and I ain’t talking bout that. If anyone has listen to mike roe I highly recommend it. He is dead on in his thinking. It don’t take much time ideological to ratify people’s thinking we have seen all before. I was at the spine office waiting on momma she was getting injections. There where a few older women in the office and by older i mean 70 plus. One said to the other these spineless republicans have ruined what America stands for the other lady calmly said well if you mean by cutting taxes and busting the economy and securing our boarders and putting restrictions in place then I guess they have lol.


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A son making 6 figures. Is the world that bad?

If you are going to cry about the oilfield learn a new trade. It has not changed in 20 years. It is up and down. The election has not effected the oil field. I know for a fact it has not yet because I worked in industry that 99% of my customers are oil field companies. If you are unemployed it is not because of the election stop it.

Are the borders secured? I see the same amount of illegals. Weed prices are the same as when I was in high school and still drugs ever place you want to find them. Help me understand how I can see the borders are more secure.
 
You can talk about where you worked and how construing pays that is also bs. I paid about 25-35% for my home then back home. Back home is the construction pay I quoted.

Do your research this party change happens every 4 to 8 years. I am not democratic but smart enough to know BS when I see it. I am a sportsman and trump has never hunted.  I admit I voted for him last time
And this time because he was the less of 2 evils but not a sore loser.

I ain’t unemployed what are you talking about I own a small business. Ya my son makes good money. I have worked in construction my entire life. The borders are not secure they where at least doing something about it. I guess you have all the right opinions and all the correct info. I really care less what you think. I feel like anyone that votes and is a legal us citizen can and has the right to say what they think unless it infringed there rights. At least that’s what I wore the uniform for. I guess we will see what these knuckleheads can do for us I am thinking not much. Ya the trade deal was terrible.


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They got all the control, they wanted it - so now let’s see what they can do with it.  Net Zero emissions by 2050, I don’t think so as they all jump in their gasoline motorcades after the Ignauration.  Lucky for them, Guatemala shut down the first migrant caravan that was headed this way last week, but there’s more coming.  Oh and by the way the ANONYMOUS spokesperson for the Biden administration on national TV quoting “don’t come now, now is not the time”.

What bothers me the most is what my kids are having to go through. My daughter was called a Trump White Supremacist the other day by a fellow volleyball team member.  Now that’s fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if you choose to generalize and be ignorant, then that’s your choice. The crappy thing about it is that these 16 year olds wouldn’t even be having these conversations about racism and slavery if this country hadn’t been divided by the Democrats currently as well as in the Obama administration. These particular young ladies know nothing about life at 16 and sure as hell don’t relate to slavery and oppression.

The other thing to watch is this transgender crap. I heard yesterday that a transgender athlete joined the volleyball team at Aledo high school. The parents are up in arms. Biden supposedly has already been passing laws regarding bathroom use, etc.......

The economics and immigration policies will be what they are - I can’t control it, but I relay get pissed when my values are attacked. The needless division of our youth is only going to breed it into our grandkids. There is no way in hell that a guy identifying as a girl needs to be in a bathroom or locker room with my wife or daughter.

This restroom/locker room thing is going to open the door for sexual predators on whole other level. Another thing is when you are on top as America has been, there are two sides. Those that want to be on your team and those that hate and live to see you fall. The twin towers will only be an example of things to come with loose borders or lax policies towards illegal immigration. That isn’t directed towards any one nationality but every nationality. Come legally and I welcome you. Do I think the wall was the answer, I really don’t know but I don’t think it was gonna hurt things. It’s kinda like going through a drought and you have all the cattle on your pastures and water that it will sustain. Then you come home one day and the neighbors on both sides that have barren pastures have cut the fence so their cattle can graze your grass and drink from your water sources. Likely those cattle haven’t been vaccinated and are poor so who knows what disease your herd is going to contract. It’s just common sense that terrorists know of our border issues. We make every weakness public knowledge either through news media or social media. There are just too many issues to rant about and no one person is going to be able to fix them and for sure in 4 years. Common sense is a curse anymore. I’m gonna say this and then I’m gonna get off my soap box. Trump was opinionated and too many times didn’t know when to shut up. One thing about it though, he meant everything he said. Other world leaders and terrorists knew that if they messed with the USA that Trump was gonna bring down the thunder without hesitation. When people know you will stand up for yourself without reservation, they aren’t so eager to mess with you. A passive, bleeding heart leader that wants to negotiate and talk it out is going to get many innocent people killed. I had confidence that Trump was out to keep our nation and our people safe. I absolutely am in doubt with this new president. Time will tell and hopefully in our favor.


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Good questions and I will answer them with my opinion.

I am not happy but calm down. 15 dollars a hour will lead to more incentive based pay jobs. Like sales folk have had for some time. Like in construction they will pay by a % of the job. Put your people all on 1099s or cash.
No $15/hr will lead to less jobs as it is not feasible to 1099 ALL jobs nor are a lot of people willing to break the law and nor should they have to.

Guns are not going away. They don’t know who has what.
But try and buy ammo, and it will get worse. Also watch the laws they will be trying to pass and the registrations they will be trying to create.

The military is not full of tree hugging liberals.
But the new commander and chief is and when the liberals control the education system and media it will continue to change like everything else. This is an obvious fact whether it be good or bad.

Now is the time to reflect in my opinion. Did a man that has soft clean hands really have your best interest at heart or did you get sold?
They almost all do and yes he was the first President since Reagan that did far more than most of these career politicians imo. Look at how much he got done with the democrats and RINO's trying to sabotage him every step of the way. No President has ever been treated this way in modern times.

Did he do right by us with the covid stuff?
Absolutely considering he tried closing off the borders before anyone else and was called racist for it, not to mention all the flip flopping the so called professional doctors and the WHO were doing. COVID was not his fault though the mainstream media will sure tell you it is. 

I can tell you the Midwest farmers realized he sold them when they couldn’t sell crops before covid when he started the trade war. I know a hand full of farmers that no longer have a family farm because of it.
You can tell us some midwest farmers, not the majority thats why he won almost all of those states, and the states he didn't (MI, WS) he only lost due to the huge cities, he still won the rural counties. I can tell you by driving through farmland in the UP, TX, LA, and even CA he was hugely supported by those farmers. Not saying it didn't affect some farmers negatively but nothing is ever perfect for everyone. Should he be like China Biden and Barrack Osama and sell us down the road to china, russia and iran to get his kids on the board and to get them to stop smoking crack? Or are fair trade deals worth the fight? It seems very short sighted to continue to let China bully us in trade imo. Make no mistake China is our biggest outside threat and not just ours but the whole worlds.

Oil field work is what it is. The oil field was do ited once the Saudi and Russia started the price war about 8 months ago. Or am I wrong? I might have started to recover and is messed up again. It is the nature of the business.
Doesn't account for all the job loss and what the price of gas will be. Also it is very easy for people who don't hold those jobs to say it is what it is or they need to find a new trade because you are not the one supporting your family on it.

Was our economy not booming before china let the virus out? Was the election a fraud, do you really believe sleepy creepy Joe got more legitimate votes than Obama who's campaign was a movement?

I am not picking at you specifically I am just answering the questions you posed with my own opinion.

I have a question. Do you think that when Biden/Harris/Democrats/liberals play by a different set of rules than what they hold conservatives to that it won't lead to Chaos? When ANTIFA murder children and burn down federal courthouses and buildings, not to mention attack cops and say all cops are evil and hunting down innocent people in the streets and it is their right to protest and who said protests have to be peaceful. But when conservatives occupy the federal building in the capital and a cop shoots an unarmed veteran and another Police officer tragically loses his life that these are insurrectionists and domestic terrorists who should all be thrown in prison just for being there and the key thrown away?

What I have been taught was throughout history when you start letting one group play by different rules than another group it almost never leads to anything good.

We made it through 8 years of Obama so I think we will be ok.

I will see y'all back here in about 4 years and you can tell me how wrong I was lol.

Some great points. The economy was great before covid.

Oil field has helped support my family. I am a hard worker and decided I can move on. If anyone can’t take the ups and downs of it and want to cry when it’s bad but piss away money when it’s good I can’t feel bad for you.

We are American we will get through this might be rough but the world is not ending.

Dang right the world ain’t ending. I spew America with every breath. I got flags on my house in my yard on my trucks on my equipment on my shop on my business logo. But I got my limits to. I didn’t have much against Obama his health care took care of my old lady she might not be here if it wasn’t for that so big thanks. I always been one to let people have there opinions and not cut them down but the good old days of every one having each other’s backs are behind us. In my opinion liberals take and take and take. My opinion is government shouldn’t mandate who wins and who don’t lose your job see if white privileged gets you anything.


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I didn’t much for Obama. He was a little to soft for me. The fact Obama care helped your family makes me like him a little more.

You also have to give it to Trump. If you do ited with America you were gonna feel it in the morning. I still think he should have retaliated when Iran bombed our base in Iraq.

That being said if they ever call to ask my opinion. You should not be commander and chief if you have never put on the uniform.

Evening fellas!

Let me step in a steaming pile for a moment and really put my foot in my mouth.  ;D

I would like for all good, right thinking, conservative, patriotic Americans to please stop using the term LIBERAL for the authoritarian A-holes on the American Left. PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE, let’s refer to them as LEFTISTS because that’s who youre actually angry at.

Liberals are not the enemy, Leftists are. A traditional Liberal is one who believes in “I may disagree with what you said but I’ll fight to defend your right to say it”. A liberal is one who wants everybody to have equal rights according to law, they believe in the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness etc. The angry, mean-spirited, puritanical, authoritarians in the Democrat side of the aisle are not Liberals, they are Leftists! They cloak themselves in good liberal ideas but then poison them with their left wing, statist authoritarianism and turn liberals and conservatives against each other. 

I believe that the events of the last 12 years are waking up Liberals to the terrifying authoritarianism of the Leftists in their party and we conservatives should use this opportunity to welcome traditional liberals into our side of the aisle.


Let’s say you hate abortion. Most liberals don’t like abortion either (remember the phrase “safe, legal and rare”?) BUT they want to preserve the ability for women to get them when medically necessary and won’t go along with religious based complete bans on all abortion procedures. You might not realize it, but we can find enough common ground on that issue to find an acceptable compromise with liberals.

How about this Trans garbage? You hate what’s being FORCED on our nation? Here’s a crazy little secret, Liberals want Trans people to be treated fairly and stuff, but most liberals pretty dang uncomfortable with pervert teenage boys using Trans-rights laws as a way to access girls locker rooms too and if we frame our arguments correctly, liberals will compromise with us.

There’s a million more examples, but my basic point is that even though we disagree with liberals on a lot of topics, real liberal HATE authoritarianism and if we do our best to be smart, well spoken conservatives, liberals will RUN away from Leftists in the very near future.