EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I know it’s been talked about 1000 times but here we go - tdogs post made me want  to post on bulldogs -
Very hard to get ahold of good bulldogs - can’t buy one I’ve tried - bout like anything else really
Got to raise your own


I had real bulldogs for a long time and they got killed out and I never did much breeding so struggled for awhile with bulldogs - actually getting my feet back under me if you will - me and cracker got pretty good plan on keeping the right bulldog- using his dogs over on mine and vise Versa should result in red real catch dogs - my first passion in dogs was bulldogs so I take this very seriously
Here is a pic of what is breed to do it and do it hard!
The momma to these pups better get use to little ones cause we have already planned another breeding and we will be close to where we need to be I think
What sucks is I have to keep her put up and not hunt her - she Is a nice little catch dog

We looking at dogs to be between 50-55 lbs
We have been planning this for some time and finally making some head way
Hard fast mouth ear dogs that is easy on the eyes as well
Several really good catch dogs are and will be in the pedigree in these pups and the ones to come

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Daddy
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Momma

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Rock N Roll
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Hopefully get a successful little line going
Hope you enjoy looking


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Nice pups bubba


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Really good looking dogs and pups.

I love a good looking 60 lb bulldog with a nice ear set. Them pups oughta be just that!

Good looking sire and dam…pups look really good and healthy…one of my best looked like these out of red Rednose…

Well put together from what I  see.

Good looking pups and dogs!! I have a red male that favors yours. Hoping to find me a female soon to raise me some pups out of him too.

They look great Muddy, I think you and Cracker are on the right track and should get exactly what you want. I can't help to like ol Rock and Roll two future red heat seeking missiles!

Those are some cracker jacks muddy. I like both parents but the daddy is sure enough gorgeous. I hope y’all accomplish what you are trying for. Describe their style for us. Like my male, he goes in fast. A lot of dogs would be out of control at his pace in my opinion but it seems his feet can’t land wrong. He’s an exceptional athlete. He is average speed wise. He catches with the ear extremely far back in his jaw (I love that) and couldn’t be anymore ear minded. I like that 95% of the time. My old family were faster in a foot race and would grab a running hog in the butt until they squatted then move to the ear. I loved that because the race was a lot shorter most times. This male will run to the head even from behind and sometimes that means running a fast hog or a smart hog further. Smart hogs can juke a dog by turning hard away from them or hitting the brakes at the right time and causing the catch dog to do a fly by. Then they gotta play catch up again. My old family also took better angles on runners. They didn’t run directly at a hog, they ran where they were headed to, kinda like a quarter back throwing a pass. Most of them didn’t go in as fast as this male and most of them would  take the path of least resistance which lead to easier catches and fewer busted bays as well as not getting hung up trying to get there. I guess you would say at this point my male is more braun than brains in his style but he is smart and I do see improvement and that he’s learning. It just came more natural to the old family.


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Dang good looking bulldogs you sure right on it's hard to get good bulldogs we trying to bred little family of em to I think we going be close to what we looking for with the ones on the ground now I like females 50-55 lbs males 60-65 got high hopes for these I hope yalls turn out like you want they sure look the part

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Man they looking good Muddy really nice job on the pups can't wait to pick my lil girl up Bud.

Thank y’all

Tdog - I like the way you look at your catchdogs and know how they do things - I had to learn some about it over the years from a being young pup myself with piss and vinegar and only wanting to catch a hog in my veins lol I didn’t watch dogs and what they did as long as a hog was at the end - lobos enjoy watching and changing things if I can - with that said these dogs are a run in but not blast - my gyp is very laid back
Almost alli shy - she will follow behind you i till you stop - move to front and like said run in but not race which I like and then hook up - we luckily had a few bays in open creeks this year and a guy hunting with us video everything - she got a nice little style - when she was young the first hog I showed her I had been dealing with some bulldogs not catching the ear and was over it !!!! Well I was told she should be a ear dog so I let some pups bay this hog it was bout 100 lbs and I walked her up close to the rear end of the hog and turned her loose - she slid up the whole hog amd grabbed a ear - I did that several times and several ways and she always caught the ear
The daddy to the pups is kinda same but alilttle faster into the bay- he more intense and will get fired up - strong strong mouth - he good at hitting his mark-
I want just as good bulldog as the dog that finds and bays - one can’t finish without the other - you know that tho


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I really like ol buddy videoing if possible- normally not the case but if it is it really helps to slow mo the videos down and really watch what’s going on -  I’ve watched em 100 times lol call it catching dissecting

Also on the health of the pups - well that thanks goes to some of the gentleman on here - several years ago before I joined the forum I would just look and read - I took everyone’s pup worming tips and have been doing that couple years now and it makes a nice healthy dog for sure to be able to use


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Slow motion and watching video is really a good thing you are doing…and starting pup on ears is also a good thing to do…knowing what makes each dog tick is good to know when it comes to hunting and breeding better dogs…

Good looking Bulldogs! I like them in that weight range.

Are yall running your bulldogs loose, is that why speed makes a difference?

Mine is 10 years old now and slow as chilled molasses! :)

No sir
Walk In and catch
Speed don’t mean nothing to me on a bulldog in that sense - turn em loose as close as possible -close yardage - if they fast and good or slow and good don’t matter as long as they connect right
We just talking how they leave your feet to the bay
But I guess if you had to pick I’d rather have a fast one just in case one slipping cross a big field


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I like foot speed for those hogs that go out the back door as the catch dog is coming through front or the occasional hog crossing an open field. We were talking about the catch dog conformation the other , me and a buddy, and I told him I like a particular type but one of the best I’ve seen was slow and sorry built. If a hog was going to get away he had to leave before that dog got there. If he ever had opportunity to engage the hog it was caught and the only way it was getting lose was to cut his head off or the handler get him off. Tuff as nails and super accurate with a great mouth.


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The daddy to them pups is what I’ve been looking for in bulldog as well those are hard to find now in days but I’ll sure will be looking at this post keep up with updates…

Good lookin pups and dogs. Between you and Cajun im jealous

 I hope you the best with them little firecrackers man...  they look the part already...   

But as far as the analyzing part goes..  a feller cant do enuff of it I believe.. Just like pairing up the right strike dogs ,, the catch dog u sending to em can make or break the work that they just accomplished.. Plus make us walk more going to 3 different bays when it couldve been just one ... 

Them slow waddled tip toeing type catch dogs is what I like..  the ones that are thinking about how it needs to hit their target...Not a bull in a china closet type but one that is gonna sneak in whatever way it needs to so the target dont even know its fixin to get smoked..  They dont make many like this and I tell my son all the time ..  dont get spoiled to walking in to one bay and one catch,, cause it aint gonna be that way all the time.. 

Just like Good Presidents,,, they dont make em but every couple of decades... LOL..

Lol you are correct highwater


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Well I sure like this lil gyp "Boing Boing" my boy Rowdy named her,she is definitely one of the smartest pups I have ever raised she seems to already understand me just talking to her.She been hell on the shoes though lol. I can almost guarantee she's gonna catch you ain't moving nothing to fast by her now or it's caught.I appreciate the pup Muddy she's a pleasure to raise.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211028/d06c0c3a529c9eda6656368ac8745efc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211028/b3b67ec70f3ee2c4311e0cd513fd881a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211028/2d0662c386d60c439b3c983495f4edeb.jpg)

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That's a good looking pup and and a better looking handler you got coming on Cracker.

Thanks Cajun That's "Waylon Bull Hopton" got the name Bull from your Buddy Bull Turner.He lives up to it so far.

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Dang good looking puppy them 2 look like they could get into some stuff there

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Cracker, that pup looks real nice! Love to see the future dog handler too, I think this country would be in a much better place if there were more children going out in to nature and actually experiencing the world instead of being glued to an iPad. Looks like you’re doing it right!


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I’m really glad y’all like her
The whole litter is liked right now but time will tell if that stays or not
I don’t think we got to worry bout it tho


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Good looking pup for sure…

Damn great looking pups.  I like the looks of that Momma dog .  Nice

Hey Jimmy and thanks good r see ya on here
She a nice little dog - she bred pretty nice but I like your statement of breeding best to best - that exactly what I done on this breeding - the momma dog is a no bull #2 kinda acting dog - not aggressive but needs zero petting or extra care - kinda serious acting I guess you would say - the pups have turned out to be smart and don’t think have to worry about catching - can’t wait to start em
Do you still have bulldog connections? I know I probably asked you that before but I can’t remember


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Yeah you can really see her in a few of them pups big time.  O yeah I got old bulldog friends that I will go to the grave with .  Yeah man after it was all said and done in the bulldogs for all them years .  I ve had a chance to really reflect on the things we did and did not do.  When we where really running dogs we did not have time to make sure this dog was in there are that dog was in there.  We bred to the dogs that got it done and with great results. I think you will find out that after a person makes so many of those breedings best x best and you have great offsprings from those best x best .  Then you can start to build a real family of dogs knowing what crosses to use because it will be the crosses that are in your best to best breedings.  I dont want anybody to get me wrong I love good family bred dogs and bred them a long time like that. Had some great dogs .  But now that all the smoke has cleared threw all that breeding we done .  I can clearly say.  If I had to do it all over again I would have never gotten so deeply involved with heavy heavy family breedings.  I would have done it like I started out doing it not giving a damn about a pedigree but breeding the best to the best  and let the dogs make the pedigrees and stayed the hell out of the way.  Breeding dogs like that you get all the vigor in the world and dogs that can stay for the long haul.  The human element I have figured out over the years is the weakest link in real dogs .

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This is right before I told  them that gal that lives here with us is coming outside and she gone see y’all and get mad and then it goes down hill from there !

Anyway they have seen hogs and caught fair - I don’t think I have to worry about em
Have good sense and I hunted with the daddy to these this past weekend and he is a fine animal
There was 4 out this litter and It’s looking like a 100% successful breeding
I will probably go ahead and breed the mama again when she comes in and be done breeding for awhile but should be in good shape on (real) bulldogs for good while


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They are sure enough looking the part. Good luck with them.

Really nice dogs guys. Don’t appear to be anything to change about them at this stage.

Cracker it won’t be long and you’ll be like me. Staring at your boy throwing a hog and wonder where the heck time went, little fellas today and grown tomorrow. Don’t quit doing what you’re doing because none of us are guaranteed our next breath!


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Caught a few with 1(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220127/b797635392478b49bb24a1636a221d1e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220127/6a9d57ef4cf173b8e53f5eb17f870298.jpg)

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Nice looking dog


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Thanks t dog!

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They looking real good muddy nice looking bulldog coa

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What’s the story on your dog COA?


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He's a good one! He has all the tools talked about above. Only thing he ain't doing is FOLLOWING into a bay unleashed & gonna need a break stick! 55#

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Both are really good looking bulldogs.

Lol needing a break stick isn’t bad. Having to lead a dog isn’t bad unless it has you on skates heading to the bay. I raised one that got worse instead of better about that. As good a pet as there was even on walks, but when adrenaline kicked in it was over.


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Haha yeah I gotcha but there are some handlers on here! He isn't that bad but I'm not letting newbie walk him cuz he will wrap em & go from zero to 100 by design lol

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Really nice looking bulldogs and pups muddy n bloody. 50-55 is solid weight.

May b planning a trip beginning of next month, heading to Colorado thought I may just extend it & go see Sass. Maybe we will get opportunity to go run a few

Sounds good COA


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