Wow, do you guys live in the same America I do? If you haven't  noticed, we're cut short on rights these days. In a blink of an eye every right that you have could be stripped from you for no reason what so ever. I do "get it" you guys are scared of loosing your hog dog rights because some guy posted a video that might upset the tree huggers. The video is not the crime, its the evidence. The way they look at it, they don't want you doing it at all- video or no video. Like I said, It doesn't matter to me, I would hunt with dogs regardless of the law. You know, I got ambushed and pinned down once in the war, the medvac helicopter wouldn't come pick our wounded up because a two hundred and fifty thousand dollar life insurance policy cost less to replace than a million dollar aircraft. These are the same people that run our country and make our laws/decide what rights you get. You think I care if the same people make it illegal to hog dog. I joined this forum to help people out, I don't do half the crap people recommend on here and I catch hogs every time I go to the woods with some rag tag pound dogs. Here's the only question I've ever asked on here------------------------------------------How do I delete my account with East Texas Hog Doggers?---------------------------------

Really guys, the day that animal rights activist get hog dogging outlawed in my area, is the day I'll start breaking the law. Personally, I find it more in humane to hide in a stand with a high powered rifle and shoot a hog. What kind of chance does the hog have then? He can't out run a bullet whether he's hobbled or not. Why didn't the animal rights activist outlaw pigman and Ted Nugent when they were flying around in helicopters shooting 100's of hogs? I can't stand people who hunt out of helicopters, the majority of people leave everything lay. Then I have coyotes to deal with. Not saying that TN and PM didn't pick up their kills. There is nothing more fair than running dogs on hogs and if a man wants to use a different training method than I do, I don't persecute him for it. The guy is working with his dog and asked a question to better his hunt and his dog. The definition of "hog dogging" explains the brutality clearly. I hog hunt with my dogs because its a way of life and I do not share the same belief as some people hunting for sport. In the beginning, God created dogs, not guns to feed themselves.

I started making adjustment straps out of bio-thane. They last a lot longer than regular nylon adjustment straps. I like them better, but everybody has there own preference. I make stuff how people want it but I also try to make it where if something were to happen to it, its an easy simple fix for them. You can get kevlar and all these multiple layer designs with all the neat bells and whistles. People automatically are fooled when the product states "Ballistic material" or "Kevlar, the stuff bullet proof vests are made of" There is no doubt these are tough fabrics and yes bullet proof vests do have kevlar in them. They still do not stop bullets, I spent 3 years in combat watching bullets zip right through kevlar fabrics. A person can go down to the hardware store, buy a roll of truckers strap, and make  bullet proof collars for about 5 Bucks a collar with a simple design. The key is making it in loose layers where it is not so tightly sewn together.  Basically, I have found out that the simple designs have lasted a lot longer and have protected my dogs against some boars that my 8 dogs couldn't hold. That's 8 running catch dogs. They straight up kill 200 pounders before I get to them. I tell people this because they can go to my site, see how I make them and build them their selves if they really want to. Some of them, you can make on a home sewing machine if you have one. I use a $1400 dollar industrial sewing machine that has a needle on it the size of a 8d nail. The nylon thread on it is about the same diameter as 20 lb test fishing line. I double stitch it and throw rivets in on some of them. Only, because when someone buys one, it doesn't fall apart on them. I test my collars on my own dogs, if they don't make the cut-no pun intended-they don't get sold.

Yeah I can do that, If you give me the distance between the prongs, I can even put 2 grommets in it, so nothing comes apart on you

I'll cross the fence when I hear a hog squealing. I run the opposite direction if I hear a cow mooing.

Half of what my dogs catch they eat. I'll clean the hog, de- bone it hanging and cut all the bones in sections with a machete. I use to boil it but i found it cooks quicker in the oven at 400 deg. I'll cook it about halfway done. The dogs love it and they look good/hunt harder. I also feed diamond High energy. I've noticed all of my dogs develop a deeper chest and a smaller hind end. Even my pups. They are all different breeds so I'm leaning to the diet and length i run them for being the cause. I have had a couple of problems with bones getting hung up in the dog but far and few in between.

I make custom cut collars, they are not as pretty as what is pictured up above but they are the toughest ones I've ever ran. I make them that way. I make one that will stop a .22 LR bullet point blank. I can make them in a lot of different colors but they always end up blood red.


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Yeah, I need a female whippet myself or a greyhound. These dogs are hard to find. I have a bulldog I want to breed back to either one. I need something fast and with some jaws. I think this is going to be the way to go for me. A 45 MPH catch dog. But all i run is RCD s. If anyone knows where I can get a female-pup or gyp, Let me Know.

Yeah, those donkeys don't mess around. They'll kill coyotes. After I had a hold of my bulldog and the bull had a hold of me. I crawled on out of there and bought some shock collars. Things are a lot better now. I catch hogs and armadillos. (I let em slide on those armadillos) As long as its not another pissed off bull with a dog hanging off his face.

Several years ago, when I first started hunting with dogs I went down to the pound and picked out the 5 saltiest dogs I could find. I didn't realize you had to "break them". I went on my 3rd hunt and came across one of our bulls. Long story short, the fight was on and I ended up getting smashed by the bull against a tree. Both me and the dogs were out for a while. So with that being said, Whats the most trouble your dogs ever got you into?

I run 8 RCD's. I have at least 2 every week get banged up. So, I normally run 6. Sometimes I wish I had more because hogs where I'm at squirt all over the place when you get on them. They all take different directions unless its a sow with pigs. A lot of times I'll have 2 dogs on 1 big hog and my other dogs on other hogs. They can't hold some of the bigger ones so they end up converging down on a single hog. I split them sometimes when I want to hunt longer like you other guys do. If I had the money, I get 40 bulldogs and run them through the brush killing everything in there path like a bunch of 4 legged piranhas.

Yeah cattracker that's the way I do it, only problem is I have 8 of them and only 1 lead. AND YES it is a dumb move for getting in between dogs while there doing their business like you're human birth control. Its kind of like pulling a dogs tale. If i went around pulling my bulldogs tale all day and then he bit me, I wouldn't feel right putting him in the dirt for it

You never know about any type of bulldogs. That's pretty much all I have ever ran. Just because its a "good nature d" dog does not mean it won't cross any line. Dogs are animals just like any other animal. They have mouths instead of hands and they can't talk to us either. I have had american bulldogs, pits, old english bulldogs, and several different mixes. For one, any bulldog breed is bred to fight, period. When you research them, they'll say bred to hunt bear, bull baiting, dog fighting etc. Like it was earlier stated, bulldogs have a higher prey drive because of this. That's also why we use them as "catch dogs". I will say I've seen some really good catch dogs that were ridgeback and cur mixed. but far and few in between. I've been bit by my own dogs 3 times and my wife got bit once.  I got bit because they were tired, another time because one didn't want me to pull him off a hog, and another time I was sewing one up. My wife got bit because she tried to separate a bulldog that was mounting a gyp. Dumb move. If you read all these cases of mine, you can understand why I had this happen a few times, hell I'd bite someone too. Pits in my experience are worse, but that's just my experience. I have a american bulldog/old english bulldog that hasn't bit me yet. He's pretty nice.

Bo, someone here might know some tricks on how to get a dog to catch exactly the way you want it. I normally start working my pups when they first get their balance on about a 50 lb fresh hog. I'll take a younger dog about 5 months with some weight on him that will catch and put the pup with him in a circle pin. The older pup trains my smaller pup. I do the same type of thing with my strike dogs. What I've noticed, if i have a older pup that will catch on the ear, the small pup will also try to mimic the older pup. I am never real picky where they catch at the same time though. I think like it was earlier stated also, the dog will want to catch where he feels comfortable catching. I have 8 running catch dogs. I somewhat disagree with the if the dog wont catch, the dog wont catch statement. I spend the least amount of money on purchasing dogs as possible. My dogs came from pounds, the side of the road, and dogs non hog hunters just wanted to get rid of. I got a cur/Bulldog mix from a guy that had it for a family pet and it was too rough with his kids. The first hunt, the rest of my dogs caught a hog, it didn't even bark at the hog. By hunt 3 on a hog, she started baying. By hunt 7 on a hog she was full out catching. I use my dogs to train my new dogs if I need another one. I think a lot of it has to do with pack structure. I don't kennel my dogs either. The lead dog of the pack will set guidelines for the younger dogs. My dogs are not only expected to work and catch a hog for me but are also pressured by my lead dogs. Just like in the wild, a dog that doesn't contribute to the pack gets ran off. If you have males and females, they both have their own separate pecking order. By keeping my dogs together and not chained or kenneled, you can notice who gets the first eating rights and things like that. I only kennel an experienced strike dog up with another pup that has a good nose. For a couple of weeks. Just so the pup will run with and get trained by a dog that is striking. Similar to the way I do my meat head catch dogs without noses. I thought your video was great. Good thing they haven't seen my videos with 8 RCD's on a hog.

I have 2 cur pits also and  i have a ambulldog/cur cross. They are a really good cross. Especially for Running catch dogs. Mine do the same thing, they range out far and I mainly use them for my strike dogs but they will also catch. I keep a old english and ambulldog mix on a leash because he's so squatty. If you get them with too much old english in them,they come out so short, they aren't very athletic. But, when they do get there, they are like a boat anchor. Also, they have a very short snout so its hard for them to bite bigger portions of the hog. I.E. the throat and back of neck. But when they grab a leg or snout, its over, somethings getting broke. I use my little bulldog for insurance. If i have a big boy in the brush giving my dogs some problems, i send that little mobster in and he just starts breaking legs.

The 250 pound plus is where I have problems also. I guess it depends on the area or something. I will say that the big ones I have caught were wide with 3 inch thick plates on their shoulders. They were also lean. Not big fat hogs. They had big wide shoulders and had narrower hind ends. They are dog killers. Like they had more of a russian blood line in them. I was explaining this in another thread. I hunt with 8 running catch dogs and those big ones shake them off like fleas. The only places my dogs can grab them is on the ears and lower legs. Every other part is bigger than  my dogs bite. You get one dog on his ear and the dog gets whooped. You get multiple dogs on them, they bust brush and scrape the dogs off of them against trees. The friends I hunt with run about 3 catch dogs at the most. They've had their dogs gutted, vest and all. Straight up dead dogs. My dogs have been cut up numerous times but I put 8 sets a teeth on them and it seems like the hog just wants to get out of there, not stand and fight.

Thanks for the invite shotgun. I'll check it out

Agreed red 79, that's why i said I'll never hunt another competition again. I have all running catch dogs. That's how I catch my hogs. I have 1 bulldog that will rip the snout off of a 150lb hog faster than anyone can make it through the brush to get to him. I timed him the other day, 1 minute and 51 seconds from the first squeal to the last breath. when your hunting thicket, you have to pretty much crawl up to the hog and I just cant crawl faster than 1 minute and 51 seconds through rose hedge. Maybe, the hogs in my area are a little bit different than everywhere else, I have no Idea. I've spent my whole life hunting where I'm at. I've been on hogs that all 8 of my catch dogs couldn't hold. If anyone here has ever caught a free ranging boar hog over 250 lbs with dogs, you know it is a completely different animal.

I went down to the pound and picked up the meanest bulldog pups I could find and some little fiest that i thought was a pointer at the time,poor fella never grew. I got a bunch of shock collars and broke them off of everything but hogs. Been doing good ever since. Sometimes I get big hogs, sometimes I don't. But the ones i do catch, are pretty much mauled up. Don't ever let anybody tell you bulldogs wont strike.