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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / help
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on: January 01, 2015, 07:51:31 am
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Needing 1 person and finished catch dog in huffman. Call if interested, 813 838 1234 Tom
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HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / relocate
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on: November 16, 2014, 12:15:40 am
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Job transfer is bringing me to Huffman area from FL. around mid Dec. looking for avid deer/hog hunters to share knowledge of area. Experienced hog dogger and whitetail hunter.
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HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / looking
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on: May 14, 2014, 11:19:58 pm
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I will be in Crosby County outside Houston, visiting family. I am looking for someone to take 2 persons on a Texas Hog Dog hunt, MUST HAVE OWN LAND, If you ever come to Tampa Fl. area I would return the good time. I am experienced, my cousin is not. I will be available from 12 noon on may 16 to 6 am may 19. Sure would be nice. have buggy, trk, rope, tom. trlang65@verizon.net
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HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / info
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on: August 26, 2013, 01:28:20 am
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I will be visiting family in the Crosby/Houston area 3rd week of Sept. I will be staying around the SW side of LK Houston, behind the house is 1000 AC. of mixed TX land. Family members are not hunters, have no idea if big game exists around property. I would like to bring Bow, would it be worth the trouble, are there plenty of Deer and Hog running around the Crosby area.
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HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / snake bite
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on: August 02, 2013, 04:19:49 am
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-------------------------------------------------------------------- The following is a summation and series of quotes from a two part article that appeared in OUTDOOR LIFE magazine. The name of the article is "A Shock Cure for Snakebite" and was written by Larry Mueller. Part 1 of the article was in the June 1988 issue and Part 2 was in the July 1988 issue.
Back issues of OUTDOOR LIFE can be purchased by writing OUTDOOR LIFE, Back Issue Department, P.O. Box 54733, Boulder, CO 80233.
The price per back issue is $4.00. A cheaper way out is to call the OUTDOOR LIFE home office at (212)779-5000 and ask them to send you a copy of the article. They will do this free of charge but you may have to tell them that you are a subscriber to their magazine. --------------------------------------------------------------------
A SHOCK CURE FOR SNAKEBITE
Part 1
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The first part of the article tells several stories of cases where high voltage DC was used to treat snakebites. In the first case, Dr. Daryl Neans, a veterinarian of Pflugerville, Texas, tells the story of a rancher who brought in a dog that was bitten on the face by a rattlesnake 30 minutes earlier.
The dog's face had started swelling and because Dr. Neans had previously read an OUTDOOR LIFE article about the treatment, he connected a wire to one of the spark plug wires of his truck then grounded another one to the frame and used the two wires to shock the "dog's face half a dozen times around the bites."
The treatment seemed to relieve the dog's pain, but "for insurance, Dr. Neans had followed the shock treatment with the usual cortisone, antibiotics, and tetanus antitoxin, but he's convinced that the shock had already effected the cure."
The article explains why Dr. Neans believes in the cure:
"Body tissue is negatively charged, snake venom is slightly positive, and unlike charges attract. If ionization of the venom molecules is altered by electrical shock, he reasoned, perhaps they can't attach themselves to animal tissue and destroy it."
Dr. Markus Kryger had read about the treatment in a medical journal when he opted to use it on courthouse employee in southwestern Missouri who was bitten by a copperhead just outside the courthouse.
He used jumper cables attached to the spark coil of his car to treat the wound after giving the woman a tetanus shot and disinfecting the bite. "Within the hour, the puzzled patient was back at work."
Dr. Kryger became convinced that electrical shock could deactivate snake venom because of the chemistry of the poison. Besides proteins and enzymes, venom contains copper and other trace metals whose electrical properties could be easily upset by high-voltage shock, thereby possibly uncoupling what makes the venom work.
Dr. Ronald Guderian is a missionary doctor from Seattle who is given credit for being the first to use high voltage DC to treat snakebite. He has "successfully treated more than 60 cases in the Esmeraldas Province of Ecuador."
Based on Dr. Guderian's experience it seems that if the treatment is received within 15 to 20 minutes after the bite has been inflicted then the pain stops almost immediately and no swelling will occur.
If swelling has already started, then it stops and the pain soon subsides. Dr. Guderian typically uses a Nova Technologies stun gun with one of the electrodes modified so that the current can be passed directly through the limb by placing an electrode on each side.
"All of the successful treatments have been performed with 20,000 to 25,000 volts or more." It has to be DC voltage, too.
The article expresses a concern that someone with a pacemaker might be killed if they were shocked with the voltage from and ignition system. The frequency and duration of the pulses of an ignition system, it is feared, might scramble a pacemaker. "The only medically tested shocking device that is safe for almost all people, including those with heart pacemakers, is the Stun Gun, made by Nova Technologies (2207 Braker Lane, Austin, TX 78758, 512-832-5591)."
"NO ONE HAS EVER USED ELECTRIC SHOCK TO TREAT SNAKEBITE INFLICTED BY SNAKES WHOSE VENOM ATTACKS THE NERVOUS SYSTEM." (ex. cobra) "The only venomous snake of this kind in the United States is the coral snake."
The article warns that the high voltage DC shock would not be effective against the neurotoxins in the venom of snakes such as the cobra and coral snakes.
Dr. Guderian's success has been with using the Stun Gun made by Nova Technologies. The FDA won't let Nova advertise the stun gun as a treatment against snakebite until further testing has been achieved.
There has been some trouble with reproducing the effect of the treatment in the laboratory. It has been proposed that the reason that the treatment has not worked in the laboratory is because those who were doing the testing were using one of the many imitation stun guns imported to the US from Taiwan or South Korea.
Another factor in why the treatment does not work in the laboratory is that, in the laboratory, it is tested on small animals. In the words of Dr. Guderian, "Think about it. Snake venom evolved for the purpose of quickly killing prey. Humans are not snake prey: we just get in the way some times. There may be biological differences causing small animals to be more susceptible than humans to venom.
Or it may just be a matter of our much larger size. ....When a small animal is snakebitten, all of it's biological systems shut down so fast that nothing can be done to stop it. When a human is bitten, he has a local reaction, followed by pain, swelling, and possible death perhaps 24 hours later."
The Japanese have reported to Dr. Guderian "that his shock treatment works on people bitten by their venomous snakes." He has also received letters telling of success stories in Peru, Columbia, Argentina, New Guinea and Africa.
As an explanation for why the treatment works, the article cites a Texas chemist who suspects that electro-phoresis is taking place.
In electro-phoresis a high DC voltage is applied to a substance to dissociate the compounds in that substance.
"Snake venom is a complex combination of proteins, enzymes (which are proteins with biological activity) and metal ions....The positively charged proteins travel toward the negative terminal, and the negatively charged proteins migrate toward the positive connection....The chemist suggested that high-voltage shock would cause enough separation to render the venom inactive."
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A SHOCKING CURE FOR SNAKEBITE
PART 2
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This second part of the article opens by describing the experience of Jim Scroggins, vice-president of Nova Technologies, when he took a trip to Ecuador for the purpose of verifying the incredible claims being made by Dr. Ronald Guderian in regards to the ability of the Nova Stun Gun to treat snakebite.
On a hike through the jungle to visit an indian village, Jim was bitten on the arm by a conga ant. The conga ant's "venom can cause a limb to swell so badly that it can't be used for days."
Jim claimed the bite felt like "five wasp stings in the same spot." He shocked the wound with a stun gun and "within 30 to 60 seconds the pain was gone."
Even though conga ant bites are supposed to swell the whole limb, Jim had no swelling, only a discolored area the diameter of a baseball.
Dr. Guderian began the high voltage DC shock treatment, not on snakebites, but originally on stings and bites from scorpions, ants, bees, wasps, and other kinds of insects.
In the beginning he used the ignition systems of outboard motors and chainsaws to treat the stings, but he later was sent a portable, battery powered "buzzer-and-coil" setup from a friend in Indiana. Later on the same friend sent him several Stun Guns to try out.
While Jim Scroggins was in Ecuador, a girl was stung on the toe by a scorpion and given the shock treatment with a stun gun. After a few minutes the pain was gone and the girl left the emergency room.
After Scroggins got home from his trip to Ecuador, his wife was working in the yard when she was bitten on the hand by four fire ants. "Donna starts getting a reaction to just one fire-ant bite in about five minutes. Then, she goes into anaphylactic shock and can't breathe."
In the rush to go to the hospital, the Scroggins took time to treat the hand with "two quick half-second zaps" from a Nova Technologies Stun Gun.
On the way to the hospital, the pain had stopped, so they turned around and went home. "There was little or no swelling, perhaps one third of what she usually gets from a single bite."
Dr. Guderian has found out through various sources that shocks have been used to treat scorpion stings for years in places like India. 40 years ago, people in Nigeria who were stung by scorpions were commonly shocked with the ignition system of a motorcycle.
High voltage DC can be used to treat other things as well. While in the city of Esmeraldas, Dr. Guderian had the opportunity to treat a child who had been stung on the back by a stingray.
He used a wire connected to an automobile's ignition coil and 20 minutes after the treatment the child was back in the water again playing as if nothing had happened.
A Dr. Stoddard talked to by OUTDOOR LIFE points out that bacteria, like venom, is largely protein. So are viruses. In Europe, acne is being treated with electricity.
Dr. Guderian has treated boils with high voltage DC. According to him, if a boil is treated before it comes to a head, the swelling and reddness will be gone in three to four days.
Dr. Stoddard even suggests that in the future rabies may be treated with electric shock.
Dr. Guderian is amazed at how well the shock treatment works to relieve pain. He suspects that the pain deactivation process is separate from the deactivation of the poison.
The article tells the story of a Texas woman who suffers from severe migraine headaches and voluteered to be treated with a stun gun. She was shocked on the back of the neck and once on each side. The pain went away, but in the morning it was back, only this time much weaker. The process was repeated again and the pain totally vanished.
It is proposed in the article that, "the same high voltage shock that upsets the electrical charge of venom proteins may upset the charges in body proteins that signal pain to our brains."
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: help with flies
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on: June 19, 2010, 01:35:44 pm
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I read in reader digest that if you take a quart size ziplock baggy fill 3/4 with water and add about 6 pennies when the sun shines on it, it reflects and flies think it's a predator and stay away never had fly problems to try it. Good luck
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THE CLASSIFIEDS / THE DOG TRADE / finished and started
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on: September 15, 2009, 01:51:39 am
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2 female BMC's. First is 15 months, yellow / black mask, very well started, has found own hog, starting to step out on track, gritty, catch/catch assist, honor bay, close to med. range. Getting better with every hunt. Price $350. Second is 18 months, Female BMC Reg. yellow/black mask still acts like she has puppy, not real gritty but will catch assist, super fast, very agile, will hunt but has not figured out how to stop the runners. This dog as of now is a better help dog, she has winded several hogs but will not finish without backup, will honor bay and will get to bay at sonic speed. Price $250. Both bmc's handle well, have been on several hogs. These dogs have never been pen dogs and are best in fresh sign. All dogs live in central FL. I will help with transportation. Thanks Tom
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Antibiotics
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on: July 06, 2009, 10:05:46 pm
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Where can a stronger antibiotic other than penicillian be bought. Sometimes penicillan does'nt seem to help. Went to vet 125.00 for 10 days of amoxicillan. Gotta be some place. Thanks Tom
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Shock a snake bite
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on: June 30, 2009, 11:38:11 pm
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As a matter of fact i was reading an article in readers digest about a doc who had used this procedure on a dog bite to the face with excellent results. And this same doctor said he used it on a women who was bit, both time within a 1/2 hour almost full recovery. There is a place in Africa that has been doing this for some time with poison bites from spiders to snakes. I am going back to the sub shop i read this in and buying it to post ot here. I found it very interesting. Also they use shock treatments in Europe for acme treatments with excellent results.
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THE CLASSIFIEDS / THE DOG TRADE / Re: APBT Pups
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on: June 20, 2009, 06:08:57 am
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Put me down for 1- female and 1- male, i'll pick them out soon as you post pics of the pups. Not wasting your time. Please keep in touch Tom 813-781-0585
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THE CLASSIFIEDS / THE DOG TRADE / Cat dog
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on: June 13, 2009, 07:04:21 am
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I am looking for a bobcat open hound that will run a cold cat track and find and tree, bay catch bobcats. I have property that is over run with bobcats. Thanks Tom
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THE CLASSIFIEDS / THE DOG TRADE / APBT GOTTI/RAZOREDGE
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on: May 10, 2009, 11:45:26 am
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I have a 18 month REG. blue brindle male 90lbs top of line pedigree. He has been used to put some weight into my catch dog line. This is a high dollar dog, he has never been put on a hog but am sure if you choose to use as catch dog he would be a hard hitter. He is good with kids, other dogs and house broke, full of energy and strong as an ox. I have all papers with background and is up to date on all shots. Needs to go asking 750.00 or trade for under 2 yr. REG. FEMALE YBMC that has been in woods and knows how to hunt, does not need to be finised "would be nice" but needs to get out and show she has what it will take with training. Tom 813-781-0585 trlang65@verizon.net for more info and pics
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THE CLASSIFIEDS / THE DOG TRADE / Gotti/Razor edge
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on: April 16, 2009, 04:13:26 pm
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18 month Reg. male blue brindle champion line used as stud dog to put some weight on our game pits. He is house broke kid broke and gets along with other animals. He is 90 lb full of energy and strong as an ox. Take 750 or maybe trade. Excellent line for any breeder
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THE CLASSIFIEDS / THE DOG TRADE / Reg APBT
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on: April 09, 2009, 10:34:33 pm
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Reg. 17 month male Gotti/Razor edge blue brindle tri color 90 lbs house broke good with kids and other animals. Champion pedigree, this dog is a money maker. email for more info 750.00
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HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Dog Hauling
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on: March 18, 2009, 11:36:35 pm
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There is a web site called uship.com you put a price your willing to pay and a transporter will answer. It is a auction type web site. I had a dog brought to me from N.C to Tampa FL. for 100.00. Good luck
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