Shane, give me a call when you get a chance. I was going to get some bees also lol. Are you back to hunting may send you an Alano to hunt for th esmaller areas lol.

I lived my last 10 years in Florida on the Charlotte Sarasota county line so I am familiar with the Punta Rassa area. I spent a lot of time at Babcock Web. I live near Athens Georgia now.

Been living here in these SE Tennessee mountains for going on 13 years now. My Florida cur cowdogs have been fairly successful at keeping my freezers full of fresh pork. Extremely rough terrain and lots of Russian influence in these hogs, but still plenty "catchable", even for this flatland swamper

My partner had some outstanding Florida Curs over in the LaBell area. Hunted a lot with them.
[/quote]Half my kin are from and still in Highlands county. You from down there or from Georgia.
I am also a swamper grew up hunting the Big Cypress Swamp,  all around Immokalee & LaBell and Avon Park Bombing Range in your neck of the woods. Had some really good Florida curs . My friends still hunt Florida curs.
[/quote]!0-4 I grew up in Bear Island and Turner River Units of the Cypress. Rest of kin, as well as myself, are from West Broward. Also hunted the bombing range quite a bit. Any evidence of those early Alano/Alaunt types coming white, especially in Cuba. Seems the newer dogs are mainly brindle and fawn.

Small world,  I spent many years hunting Turner River and Bear Island until they forced us to give our camp on Turner River to the government.  I don't know what happened to the Dogo Cubano.  I still have a picture of me with one taken in 1958 and it was fawn. We used our dogs to work cattle as catch dogs to hold them. We had honrey Brahma.

Been living here in these SE Tennessee mountains for going on 13 years now. My Florida cur cowdogs have been fairly successful at keeping my freezers full of fresh pork. Extremely rough terrain and lots of Russian influence in these hogs, but still plenty "catchable", even for this flatland swamper

My partner had some outstanding Florida Curs over in the LaBell area. Hunted a lot with them.

Half my kin are from and still in Highlands county. You from down there or from Georgia.
I am also a swamper grew up hunting the Big Cypress Swamp,  all around Immokalee & LaBell and Avon Park Bombing Range in your neck of the woods. Had some really good Florida curs . My friends still hunt Florida curs.

Been living here in these SE Tennessee mountains for going on 13 years now. My Florida cur cowdogs have been fairly successful at keeping my freezers full of fresh pork. Extremely rough terrain and lots of Russian influence in these hogs, but still plenty "catchable", even for this flatland swamper

My partner had some outstanding Florida Curs over in the LaBell area. Hunted a lot with them.

Half my kin are from and still in Highlands county. You from down there or from Georgia.
I am also a flatland Swamper, grew up hunting in the Big Cypress Swamp and Avon Park Bombing Range in your neck of the woods.

I am researching by asking someone posting  and starting a thread with knowledge of an interesting breed . II'm curious , since they  came with the settlers, where are the purebred examples of the breed here in the new world?  Were the pure lines diluted over time? I suspect thats what happened.

As we communicate I am reading the latest book published in Spain regarding the history of the Alanos and the project that began in 1980 to find the best stock that was still in Spain and save the breed. Since the project began with hunter breeders the breed has made a very good come back. The purest stock is registered with S.E.F.C.A.  You will find many Alanos that have been crossed with other breeds in the other registries. Extremely difficult to obtain S.E.F.C.A Alanos to take out of the country. I have to promise to abide by their rules and breed according to their beliefs. I also have to make breeding stock available to go back as they increase breeding of only the best stock.

A pit will catch a hog In any terrain the pig is bayed in. He don't care bout anything other then his job. Dogs will surprise you. I am sure if I was to hunt with your Spanish dogs they would surprise me. And Joe blow from any where USA would surprise you. A good dog is a good dog no matter where you take him.


I would have to agree with you, a good dog is a good dog anywhere. The Plotts that we have sent to Spain are doing outstanding. And if all I wanted was a straight catch dog, I would go with a game bred pit or a Banddog from Robinson. My friend has a couple from Robinson that are sledgehammers on hogs. Seriously considering getting one when he breeds his. If I didn't have the Alanos, I would probably still have a couple of Florida curs with my Plotts for hogs. Florida curs that I have hunted with hunt more in style with the Alanos that I am trying to select. Even though we have great dogs here that can do the job, the Alanos to me have a historical connection, and I like them more than just for hunting. They are an extremely noble and old breed with a lot of history to them.

Been living here in these SE Tennessee mountains for going on 13 years now. My Florida cur cowdogs have been fairly successful at keeping my freezers full of fresh pork. Extremely rough terrain and lots of Russian influence in these hogs, but still plenty "catchable", even for this flatland swamper

My partner had some outstanding Florida Curs over in the LaBell area. Hunted a lot with them.

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I sure like the looks of the dog on the road, pretty interesting read.

Decker, the pups I am bringing on my next trip come from the dog on the left. I have a great video of the female that is laying down but it doesn't load. You can see how many attempts I made.

Decker, the one on the road is named Messi, it was bred to the 2 females in the picture together. All are very good hog dogs. The pups were just born so to young to bring one back on this trip. I am bringing 2 pups from the other dog that you only see his head.

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I sure like the looks of the dog on the road, pretty interesting read.

Decker, the one on the road is named Messi, it was bred to the 2 females in the picture together. All are very good hog dogs. The pups were just born so to young to bring one back on this trip. I am bringing 2 pups from the other dog that you only see his head.

So when the Spanish were colonizing the new world, did the only population of alanos brought with them wind up in Cuba?  Were  none brought to the mainland?. I know Spanish explorefs brought hogs to Fla ,, seems they would ha e brought the alanos in larger numberz.

They were brought to many of the areas that they landed in. Do some research, very easy to find on the internet.

Euro is about the same as dollars just a few cents higher. Many think that the BMC & Catahoula have descendents in them from the Alanos. Alanos were the war dogs of the Spanish. Desoto brought them when he march from Florida though Georgia South Carolina and on to Mississippi

Judge Peel, a well bred one should be around 500 euro if they will sell it. The best stock is usually only available to friends and family. Cost way to much to fly over in cargo, over $1000. I bring several on the fights with me for $200 per kennel and 2 can be in 1 kennel. For instance, in May I am taking 2 Plotts to Spain and I am bringing back 2 Alanos.  $200 per kennel makes it very cost effective.  But I agree with you, if it wasn't because of my family's history with Alanos, I would only run Plotts and stop plenty of bears and hogs. I think like the cur, the Alano will work very good on the smaller places that I have available to hunt. Alanos will also guard my place and great companion on the farm.

White dogs in the background are called Podencos. Medium nosed dog used for trailing. Many of the guysuse them to start tracks. When they bark Alanos run to them and run down the hog. Some are hunting with only Alanos.  Good friends of mine are using the Plotts with the Alanos in Spain the same way that I am doingit here.

All legit questions from you judge peel, no jabs were taken lol.

All that's cool. But I don't see the need for me to bring in a out of country dogs to do what a dog down the street will do. There are many breeds around link=topic=61380.msg556016#msg556016 date=1489167469]
All that's cool. But I don't see the need for me to bring in a out of country dogs to do what a dog down the street will do. There are many breeds around the world that will do the job. I guess if that's what u like and love then more power to ya. But there are many guys hunting that can take two or 3 curs and catch any hog out there and most of the time the pit is just the nail in the coffin not the start. All the videos I have seen on them there are 20 dogs on the ground that's just over kill around here. Not saying they ain't good I just never seen anyone use 20 rough curs and 6 pits to catch a hog. What is the price of one of those dogs and shipping run just curious. These are not jabs at u ether just things I have seen


By the way I don't use 20 dogs lol! I use 1 or 2 Plotts 1 Alano. Or 2 Alanos by themselves. I am sure there are good curs and pitts but I don't think that they would be very successful producing hogs in the mountains of NE Georgia,  Western North Carolina, and Eastern Tennessee.  There is a reason why you see predominately Plotts in those conditions. Do you have pits that yu think would be suitable for non feeder fed mountain Wild Bars?

All that's cool. But I don't see the need for me to bring in a out of country dogs to do what a dog down the street will do. There are many breeds around the world that will do the job. I guess if that's what u like and love then more power to ya. But there are many guys hunting that can take two or 3 curs and catch any hog out there and most of the time the pit is just the nail in the coffin not the start. All the videos I have seen on them there are 20 dogs on the ground that's just over kill around here. Not saying they ain't good I just never seen anyone use 20 rough curs and 6 pits to catch a hog. What is the price of one of those dogs and shipping run just curious. These are not jabs at u ether just things I
Totally understand your point. These dogs have been in my family since the 1500's they came with us when members of my family came to settle the Spanish possessions in the New World. The ones we keep in Cuba were Alanos but with some out crosses probably closer to Dogo Cubano. Don't need any other dogs than my Plotts! Prefer them over curs & pits! Alanos costa lot of money, I am able to afford going overseas and bringing them when I want. Good thing is that we get to chose the breed that we like.

I posted some hunting videos up top but I can't get them to play. I will make one more attempt.
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These Alanos are for my personal use and for my hunting friends. A couple of us are bringing these dogs over because we love the way they perform and don't want to deal with the dog aggression or legislation in some areas concerning pits. I don't breed and sell my Plotts and I am not planning on selling these! This project is for my hunting pleasure. Fortunately, my dogs are a hobby, no need to try to promote them and make money. I am just sharing this information with fellow hunters and hounds-men who like to keep tabs on dogs that are used successfully on hogs. The Alanos are a top hog dog! Whether mine will be as good as my Plotts or as good as the ones that I have hunted with in Spain is yet to be seen. Very promising is all I will say at this point. I am pretty hard on what I call a good dog so for now I will say that I am liking them but far from being what I would call hog dogs. Hopefully in a few months I will be able to give a more accurate report. 

Alanos excel on European Wild Boar. Don't see any pits in Wild Boar packs in Spain.
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All caught using Alanos, no feral hogs here. These fight and run harder in my opinion than the feral hogs. Yes there are some extremely bad ass Feral hogs that are crossed up. I have run them in these mountains. However, in the general sense, the European Wild Boar is meaner.