Thanks everybody.

Thanks Noah, from Von Grossermund Kennels in Cordoba, Argentina. The female I have in the pic is from Jim Paternoster, del Toro Kennels.

Been forever since I've been on here, but been hunting, working and breeding dogs just the same. Here's a hunt from this weekend. My good friend Tim, invited us to go and hunt a little place that had some corn in it a couple months ago. My friend Coty and I loaded up the dogs and met up with our friend, Roy, at Tim's place. We started hunting around 11:30 p.m. and no more than 10 minutes into the hunt the Outlaws, Josey, Willie and Waylon (out of my dogs Red & Ruby) struck up and soon all the other dogs: Badger, Banjo, Dynamo, and Ruby were there and had the boar bayed solid in an open field. We dropped the dogos, Macaco, Besa, and Tito from about 50 yards away. Tito jumped about a 4 foot net fence and Macaco and Besa went through a big hole in the fence where the hogs had been crossing through. The dogos hit him like a freight train, and my buddy Roy stuck him. The Boar weighed about 280lbs.
Unfortunately, my buddy's pit mix, Loca who was running on the ground with the curs, got hit under the cut vest in the chest near the arm and died within a minute from blood loss. RIP Loca.

Besa del Toro and me


Some good cutters


Coty and Tito


Besa

I think it has to do with the region AND what the dog is bred for, they go hand in hand. I hunted all last year in Freer, Texas (deep south) (smallest ranch 7,000 acres, biggest over a 100,000) and it was common for my friend's dog to be a few miles out on the Garmin (out over 6 miles before).  I bought that dog and hunting up here closer to San Antonio on areas around 1,000 acres he'll go out about 900 yards (still far but not as far as he used to). Last week we went down towards Corpus on 18,000 acres of grain and he seemed to open up more (went out about a mile and a half) Maybe he hasn't opened up so much here near San Antonio because we've been catching hogs at about 500-800 yards, maybe it's all the net fence, hot fences, etc. around the grain up here.
It is somewhat hard to hunt with him because my other dogs will only follow him out a few hundred yards if he's not baying.

Los Cazadores Kennels in Pleasonton, TX. I've been hunting with them many a times and can say their dogo Loyal is jam up with literally several hundreds of hogs under his belt, and if you know dogo pedigrees he has an awesome line of catch dogs behind him.  Yaguarate, Estuque de Santa Isabel, Nueva Cordoba, etc. All out of the old working lines. Still hunting at 7 or 8. NO QUIT. Some of them may not be the best looking dogos, but you never have to worry about health and heart, they are dogos bred just for hunting. All bred around the original standard established by the brothers who created the breed, 85 to 100 lbs. I wouldn't say they're tall, around 23 to 25 inches, maybe some are a little taller.
They have 10 or so other dogos, none of them pot lickers.
Here's their website:
http://www.huntingdogos.com/

Marvin,

I've had the rescue for over three years. There are five dogos at my house with a sixth one on the way. With all due respect I know dogos and know and hunt with people who've been hunting with them for nearly two decades. All that I've seen from dogos that started out as hunting lines/catching lines and have been bred for hunting, want to catch by 6 months. That you would talk about dogos vs pits that way says something about where your dogos come from and what you haven't seen. I have noticed that people that have mastiff like dogos over 100lbs talk about them being slower to get started.

Maybe a great guy, but listen to what he has to say about dogos, I have other mentors.

I didn't mention anything about pumas (Ivan did), but to say the puma is "Hype"? Not everyone puts videos on youtube. The point is the dogo can have his guts ripped out, but he won't quit till he's dead.

Kevin and Marvin,
Sorry for the delayed response, I can only check the internet a few times a week.
Short answer: plenty.
Why the question? Are the dogos or the lines you work with different than what I described?
What are you saying?  That dogos take longer to turn on? That they won't grab a shoat by 4 or 5 months?!?  That they won't go after and catch a hog around a 100lbs at 6-8 months? Again, with all due respect, that's bull, and if your experience is different, that they due in fact take longer to turn on and catch, those dogos are from the wrong blood.
If you believe the answer to the above is “no, dogos will and should do that” and were just asking out of curiosity how many I’ve seen in person, which I doubt you were, I have seen several pups with my OWN EYES (at least 8 off the top of my head) turned on and catching by 6-8 months. I have good friends here and in Argentina that have dogos catching by the same time. I’ve also seen tons of photos and videos from the same people.
Some people can search high and low, but if they look in the wrong places, they can be with the breed for 20 years and have well engrained opinions formed around an erroneous understanding of what a dogo is. 
To me, it is no coincidence that a dogo that has countless generations of hunters in its background will catch double its size by 6/7 months.  Its ancestors were shaped by the field, not in a show ring and then trying to work them over into the field, that's working backwards.
Dogos more on the mastiff end of the scale will take longer to develop physically and mentally.
Those dogos have too much of whatever else in them and not enough "Viejo Perro de Combate Cordobes" (basically the Argentine Pit Bull) in them.
Besides my personal experience, and that of countless Dogueros, read through the Book "The Dogo Argentino" by Agustin Nores Martinez and look at all the photos of puppies on hogs. Those are the dogos to breed--dogos that show heart and desire at a young age.
If you breed or get dogos from people that have "late bloomers" you'll probably get "late bloomers."
Here's an idea: I'll go to Dogo Argento (The largest dogo forum in the world), I'll go to the hunting section in Spanish, and I'll start a post for people to post pics, videos, and testimonies about dogos that are "crazy to catch good sized shoats by 4 or 5 months" and "able to catch something twice its size by 6 or 7 months." Then I’ll cross post the link here in a while, we’ll see if what I’m saying is that far fetched amongst hunters in Argentina.

It sounds like you did everything you can.

With all due respect, I don't understand all this talk about dogos maturing slower than others, that's bull. Those aren't dogos, the dogo should be crazy to catch good sized shoats by 4 or 5 months and able to catch something twice its size by 6 or 7 months.

Throw a hog head in with a bunch of puppies and they should rip it up, let them play with a shoat and they will kill it. You can tell very young if they are dogos are not.

I'm from Utah, and one of the wolves from Yellowstone moved all the way down to Utah in the mountains near my house (it was tagged and had a radio collar) several hundred miles. When they caught that thing I thought it looked like a freaking grizzly bear, it probably weighed a 140 lbs.

Freakin cool! 

What kind of dog is she? How big is she? Is she going to be a walk in catch dog or a RCD? From what distance would you plan on letting her go? Those might be things to consider. If you're going to let her go, you could work on her going to a bay with some pups and a smaller one, set something up like in a 5 acre pen, let her go on one side and work her on getting to the other side where the fun is, good to make that connection early and know how to get there; This way while her teeth are setting you are teaching her another skill and minimize risk by keeping it small. Adult teeth should all be in by 7 months.
I was worried about sticking my six month old dogo pup the other day in the pen with a 120+ lb hog (she only ways about 60lbs), but we had a rescue dogo there just in case. My friend who's been training dogos for well over a decade said do it. First time was with another dogo and a bay dog. Second time she went alone. She caught well both times. Here's a couple pics.

http://www.dogo.org/message_boards/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13316

I just share that to show that you never know what you have till you test it, and sometimes it amazing which dogs do well and which ones don't.
Can't do that with every dog, depends on size, strength, heart/drive. I think a lot of people would say wait though, you don't want to ruin their confidence or teeth/body early, but if you think she'll step up to a challenge early and not ruin her teeth, maybe go up a size in a couple months, but not over due it, and keep it fun for her.

Just my opinions though.

I'm interested please call and ask for Daniel 801-458-2503 or leave your number

Having grown up in Utah (in Texas now) (they have a lot of big toms), it's something that's always interested me. I'd love to do it too. I'd have to trade hog dogs for cat dogs though. It's relatively easy to get a permit for cheap if you're a resident. I've wondered if someone in Utah would be willing to trade a cat hunt for a hog hunt.
Here's a pic from one taken last year in Utah. 15 1/16 BC points. Look through the galleries, there are some amazing pics. http://www.pinesranch.com/2008cats/hiener.htm
We've seen several up around our cabin in Utah. They help keep the elk and deer population in balance, but at times they get over populated and Utah will give out a lot of permits.
I'll see if I can scan some of the pics we've taken and put them on here.

Just killed about a 250lber but it was a good way in the woods in thick white brush and mesquite (stuff you have to crawl through). Wasn't hobbling and dragging him out. Looking to get one soon.
Thanks

EXACTLY, FOR BAYING. About 25 miles south of San Antonio.

Some friends and I are looking for a 200 to 250 lb boar to pen test dogos. Post here or call me (801) 458-2503 ask for Daniel. It's not really necessary, but a pic would be cool.

Thanks,

Mataco

This maybe a weird place for my first post, but having tested 6 dogos this week with friends (most around a year old), I felt I had to jump in. If a three or four month old dogo doesn't want to rip a shoat up I'd say things aren't looking good. The interest has to be there at a young age. If that squealing doesn't get the pup going it's not a dogo, it's a white dog.

Dogos maybe slower to get hunting on the ground, but they should be quick to catch, at least after a couple of pen tests. Don't buy the idea that dogos are slower to get catching, All the dogos, except one that was raised in a house till 2 1/2, (he caught the second time) caught with so much anger and fury, that it was more than catching, they were trying to kill them and these were good size hogs. Two caught so hard they blew blood vessels in their eyes, you could see it coming out the corner of their eyes. There are a lot of crappy representations of the dogo out there, they're not dogos, just white dogs.

I don't think you can really train a catch dog, he catchs or he doesn't, maybe you can adjust were he catches, but first he has to catch.

A dogo should be catching like a train at a year or so. It might take a while for that 90 or so pounds to harden up, but the heart and drive should be there early.

Mike Tyson's trainer said: "Show me a fighter that's all heart, and I'll show you a fighter about to get his ass kicked." Dogos have the heart and size and bite strength to do damage, not just be a hog ear ring.
Year and a half old, not catching or showing interest (even when started young) whatever you do with it don't breed it.