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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Standard American Bulldogs
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on: April 23, 2012, 04:58:42 pm
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Great looking bulldog. Just a heads up though since you said you were new to bulldogs. Ped wise most would consider him a hybrid. He has lots of hybrids in his background. He also has a good amount of bully dogs and some straight off Mr. Johnson's yard. His Phenotype/ look is more Standard. Just giving you a heads up from looking at Ped. He looks like he will get it done. Don't be suprised if you get a few pups from him in the future that are more bully, especially if you breed him to another hybrid dog with similar background. Breeding him to straight standard dogs or performance type pits should keep most of them with same size muzzle and standard look. Good Luck.
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HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: what breeds went into the general ab
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on: January 11, 2012, 07:44:35 pm
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Pit and Bulldog are same thing back in day in America, not talking English Bulldog. I have some family pics of bulldogs from 1922 and they look like a pit but just call them bulldogs on back named Mickie. My grandma is in pic and is 2. She is 90 now. This was on Oil lease she grew up on in Oklahoma. I was at NFL Hall of Fame in Canton and had a team picture of Canton Bulldogs from around 1900 and in picture was a pit and he was the bulldog mascott. The pit term were for the ones used in that regard but many used bulldog for guardians and some for sotck and killing varment and wild dogs or just pets. This is just my opinion. Depending on line AB can have alot of things from: Pit, Cur, Boxer, Dogue De Bordeaux, Mastiff, Neo and I'm sure others cause some AB's even come with long hair. I don't know if anyone has ever seen a litter of English Bulldog and pit but th pit blood can be so strong that some will look like almost a straight pit.
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Your ideal catch dog... specifics please...
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on: December 27, 2011, 02:31:46 pm
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Noah,
To your last question I would say whatever consistently catches and their is no doubt ever in my mind that it may start baying. My only scare in a cur catchdog type would be that in a bad situation with a bad boar in a tight spot and myself or a friend and dog gets ass handed to him and begins to bark instead of engaged. I have been lucky to hunt over the last decade with some guys with great curs that can shut most any hog down under 150. Been plenty of times I brought my CD and been able to just tie him up and leg 150 pound boars or barrs cause a good cur was already locked down. I have also seen at some of the catchdofg comps back in day where a great cur that actually won a competition in past and he had never in his years bayed and I know and have hunted with the owners, o I believe them. It was a head to head major collision and low and behold the cur finally bayed up. It was a big mean boar as well, I thought to myself if we were in a tight place and I was down there I would/ve been screwed. A Bulldog it could happen as well but I think you have a better chance with a great straight pit or AB to continue to battle. I also seen plenty of good mixes of cur bulldog. CWARD, I know some guys in Cleveland that had a Cur x Black lab that was a hell of a catchdog, I wonder if it was same one. They called him Blackie or Black dog but I remember them telling me it was half cur as well. That was a good catchdog. It hink my bulldog beat him though so it may be a differant one if you say this one never lost. Either way it was a good dog and seen him do good in woods as well. Got a little sidetracked but Noah the way you word it about awkward bulldog would make it sound like you may have not hunted with an athletic pit or AB. Some can be very fast and athletic, I can see maybe your point though because on a whole they are not as athletic as curr, I'm just talking about the cream of the crop since you are saying ideal. I don't think anyone's ideal CD would be an awkward chainsaw breathing pit or AB. I would agree that the thing most cur mix catchdogs bring is better heat tolerence typically but the good ones will die before they would ever bark. I also have seen bulldogs that have smarts as well. A good dogman or woman can put some serious obediance on a bulldog sort of like what CWARD described although those seem to be some of the best if you can break one off verbally. I've never even tried that, I've always wanted my CD to have to be broken off but would be great to see a surefire CD you could call off and he would go lay down.
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Florida cur, Cracker cur, Southern Cur, Florida hog hunting in general history?
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on: December 12, 2011, 08:24:56 am
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I'll add my 2 cents and it may not be worth that. I am from Texas but lived in Floriday in the early 2000's. I was lucky enough to get invited with a couple buddies to go on a hunt with some great people that own one of the largest cattle operations in Florida for over 100 years. He was a great guy and family were as nice as can be. They took us hog hunting with two of their currs. Only had the female on ground with her son in truck for backup. He was never needed. We all killed pigs that day and was very impressed with the abilty of the cur. I asked about the cur and he said it had been in his family for generations and bred for cattle and hogs. He has other ranching friends that he still breeds dogs with. I asked about where they originated and he said about 100 years ago they would add in what was needed to continually make good dogs. He said the three main dogs used 100 years ago were: Redbone, German Shorthair and Rhodesian ridgeback. He said each brought something to table and they breed a little more or less in until they got what they wanted and bred pretty true. H said he was told this by his grandfather. I was surprised that there was Rhidgeback in Florida 100 years ago and he was positive there was because of what old timers told him. Take it for what it is worth but this guy had no reason to lie and had pictures that were very old and still had tons of land and is very well respected. His biggest issues was poachers on his land. When we hunted with him he had a shattered leg from flipping his airboat chasing poachers at night on one of his properties that always gets poached. The cur dog would stop any smaller hog and a cowboy was following that dog on a horse and we followed in a jeep. We would get close and line up shot with finger off of trigger. He would say bay, bay and dog would back up and he would say take your shot and it would be doen deal.
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HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Pitbulls and kids?
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on: November 11, 2011, 11:35:57 am
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I think Bryant makes a good point from my experience. I played college football back in th day and one of my buddies on the team had a great pit. He was good around people and other dogs. I loved that dog, I would go over to just to play with the dog. You could wrestle hard and have hand in his mouth and everything. The problem I see it is what happennedwith two incidents with the dog that I could easily see happening with a teenager owning one. We were hanging out and one of our buddies tackles the owner and starts wrestling and the pit immidiately locked on the guys arm, the owner just said something and he instantly let go but guy had to go to hospital with some nice puntucures and bruised up arm for a few weeks. He then let eveyone know not to horseplay around dog because of incident and would put up if he didn't know people well. A few months down the road another friend was messing around and pushed owner jokingly and gave a little flinch like he was going to hit him and the dog locked on this guy's arm in same place on bicep, again owner said no and dog let go. Another ER visit. After that he just kept him up unless it was his closest frinds. I could see something like this happenning but if the boy can be trusted and explained to him and his parents to keep dog up around people, maybe. Just wanted to pass along a story that could happen when you have youngster that might start horseplaying. That is still one of my all time favorite pits. Just better not mess around with his owner
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THE CLASSIFIEDS / CLASSIFIED ADS / Great Condition Commercial Grade Freezer
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on: July 06, 2011, 03:59:07 pm
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Have a buddy selling a 25 CF Supreme commercial grade deep freezer. Asking $500, paid $1500. Freezer is 3 years old, but only been used 1 year. I saw for myself that it's in mint condition and would buy it, but already have one. Must pick up and location is Frisco, TX. Please contact Dylan Whitaker at 214-763-9157 or dwhit@att.net 
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: ??? for the pitbull guys ???
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on: June 23, 2011, 05:13:26 pm
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My buddy has one that I'll post a picture of to compare She is 14 now and still going strong. This is a picture of when she was younger. I'm sure there are different types within the family and the preference of who is breeding them. This dog is one of my favorite pits and will swim down to bottom of deep end in a pool to get stuff. Very smart dog and great heat tolerance and drive. She is probably 35- 45 pounds. 
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: catch dogs
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on: June 09, 2011, 05:00:47 pm
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There is a guy that has a hog hunting operation and hunting prserve 15-20 minutes outside of Greensboro Alabama, some of yall may know him. He has had it since the 70's, it has a real nice place that overlooks a private lake on the property. Anyway my buddy is friends with him and he took me over there when we had been on a hunting trip around 2003 and he did hog hunts and used mainly bulldogs as catchdogs but he kept telling me stories about what he said was his best ever catchdog and he said it was a big 100# plus dog that was a mix that looked to b Rotti and who knows what else. He said he stopped using dogs because he was wating to much money when dogs got cut and now just took people on non dog hunts. I had my Catchdog vest and showed him and he hadn't never even heard of one and said he wishes he knew baout those back then. I had an AB with him and he and his wife kept saying they thought it was a twin of a female they had in late 70's. The Parrish brothers down around Cleveland used to have a lab cur mix named Black Dog that I witness catch some real tough hogs, heck they even had a real good straight catch YBMC as well.
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: YOUR BEST OF THE BEST ( CATCH DOGS )
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on: May 04, 2011, 04:03:13 pm
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 He turns 10 in June. Caught lots of hogs from a year to 5 years of age and then have only been able to hunt sporadically since but he caught some tough boars and gets along well with others, always right to the bay and we used to send from 300-400 yards out or farther so the 4wheelers didn't cause the hog to break, even found a few on his own while bay dogs were gone. Nice looking dogs everyone. Britt we still need to make some time to watch videos. I got my sister camera which is same as my old one and tapes don't work. MAybe some camera place can figure it out
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