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HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: "One Out" Presa Canario's
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on: January 22, 2009, 08:03:01 pm
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Once again im not trying to upset anyone but this is what I said: "When I say "Best" I mean it in general way. Our stock of dogs come from some of the best the breed has to offer. There pedigree is a proven to be great catch dogs and a great working dog. My dogs are new to the sport," That was a direct quote from my earlier post. My website is not yet up and running so unfortunatly I dont have my photos up. Give it a few days and I will have photos up. As for the price this was an earlier post and it read: "Normally these dogs run from $1500-$3000. We are asking someone just cover the cost of shipping or we can deliver him/her, and initial vet/cropping of the ears. It will total about $500-$750. If anyone is interested please email me at michaelacosta@oneoutkennels.com or call me at (915)373-6476 ask for Mike." So yes I understand they are different from what most people have seen or worked with, but as I said earlier when the dogo's came out they were talked about as aggressive and uncontrollable. I also understand that most people use a cross, dogo and several dogs. This is fine, and im up to working with people who are open minded and want an intellegent, athletic, prey driven, strong nerved dog. Im not questioning anyones way of hunting or the type(s) of dogs used. Im just simply here like everyone else, TRYING TO HUNT HOGS WITH DOGS! Onece again I love all the feedback about my dogs, and the breed of dogs Im offering to the hog world. Thanks Mike
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HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: "One Out" Presa Canario's
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on: January 21, 2009, 03:39:24 pm
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Once again thanks for the feedback. This post is to everyone who reads it, not anyone specifi. I can talk about my presa's all day long. Yes I have put a lot of time, effort and money into them. Im not here to make a living out of them Im simply here to promote a great dog to hog hunters and to everyone that will listen. As for the price tag, Im not asking $2500 for one of my dogs. I also understand that people can get a proven dog for $400. Im just simply trying to get some exposure to my dogs and the breed itself for what it was originally breed and used for. Im looking for some hog hunters that want to try something new to the US. As where where they come from and are used. They come from from Spain and the Canary islands. Remember when the Dogo Argintino first hit the US, what was everyones reaction? They work in Argintina but not yet in the US and now look at them. They are easy to come by and not at all expensive anymore. Ya you can buy one for "SHOW" and spend $1500+, but thats not what hog hunters want. They want a true working dog and thats what Im trying to bring to the hog world now. Think about it! As for them being aggressive. Just like I said they aren't anymore aggressive than pits, dogo's, or any other bully dog when properly sociolized and trainded. Do you remember when you first started out on your dogs, getting a proven line, the excitement you had? Thats where we stand. Thats where you come in. We need your help to "Prove" or lines. I am only one person in El Paso tx, there is no one within 6hrs of me that is able to help me. Im counting on some people that want to take a chance. Are dogs do come from great lines and now we are trying to perfect them to be what we want, and what you want. A "PROVEN" dog.
(915)373-6476 Mike
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HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Presa Canario- My recent post!
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on: January 21, 2009, 12:14:56 pm
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I would like to start by saying thank you to all that have posted about my dogs, and that Im not trying to upset anyone here. When I say "Best" I mean it in general way. Our stock of dogs come from some of the best the breed has to offer. There pedigree is a proven to be great catch dogs and a great working dog. My dogs are new to the sport, but if anyone would like to take a look at some pics Im in the process of getting my websiste up and running. If anyone would like to see em out I would love to show you. You wont find to many pics on the web of them here because like I said there isnt to many people using them here in the states because of the cost of dog. This is why I need your help! I need you to be willing to try out one of my dogs and see what they can do. The breed has a prey drive that is among the best in the wold. You will not be sorry with one on our dogs. Our dogs when full grown (males) will be about 25in and weigh about 120lbs (females) 24in and about 110lbs. We don't breed for the great big heavy "americanized" dog that can't keep up and do what we want them to do. Our dogs are true to the original size and standards. Ours are a little bigger than a Dogo Argentino and about the same size as an American Bulldog. They are just as athletic and as fast as both. They have the drive and stamina that keeps them going just as long if not longer than theese breeds. There breeds ruggedness and nerves make them among he best catch dog. As for dog aggression there sociolization is the key. Obidience, Obidience, and complete controll of the dog on and off leash. As with any dominate type dog, ie Pit Bull terrier/Dogo Argentino/American Bulldog, that is always a possibility. With the proper training this wont be a problem. Please feel free to call me so we can chat (915)373-6476 Please check out the following links for addition info on the "Presa Canario" http://www.casadeltoro.net/ http://www.casadelpresa.com/ thanks Mike
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HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: "One Out" Presa Canario's
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on: January 21, 2009, 12:13:02 pm
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I would like to start by saying thank you to all that have posted about my dogs, and that Im not trying to upset anyone here. When I say "Best" I mean it in general way. Our stock of dogs come from some of the best the breed has to offer. There pedigree is a proven to be great catch dogs and a great working dog. My dogs are new to the sport, but if anyone would like to take a look at some pics Im in the process of getting my websiste up and running. If anyone would like to see em out I would love to show you. You wont find to many pics on the web of them here because like I said there isnt to many people using them here in the states because of the cost of dog. This is why I need your help! I need you to be willing to try out one of my dogs and see what they can do. The breed has a prey drive that is among the best in the wold. You will not be sorry with one on our dogs. Our dogs when full grown (males) will be about 25in and weigh about 120lbs (females) 24in and about 110lbs. We don't breed for the great big heavy "americanized" dog that can't keep up and do what we want them to do. Our dogs are true to the original size and standards. Ours are a little bigger than a Dogo Argentino and about the same size as an American Bulldog. They are just as athletic and as fast as both. They have the drive and stamina that keeps them going just as long if not longer than theese breeds. There breeds ruggedness and nerves make them among he best catch dog. As for dog aggression there sociolization is the key. Obidience, Obidience, and complete controll of the dog on and off leash. As with any dominate type dog, ie Pit Bull terrier/Dogo Argentino/American Bulldog, that is always a possibility. With the proper training this wont be a problem. Please feel free to call me so we can chat (915)373-6476 Please check out the following links for addition info on the "Presa Canario" http://www.casadeltoro.net/ http://www.casadelpresa.com/ thanks Mike
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HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: "One Out" Presa Canario's
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on: January 20, 2009, 07:20:29 pm
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Yes they do. Check this link out. These dogs have the same pedigree as mine. You don't see to many people using them in the US because of the cost, a good dog goes for $2500. Im the 2nd kennel in the US that is willing to use them for what these dogs were originally breed for, to hunt and catch. As a new kennel I'm trying to expose them for what they are, THE BEST. Call me anytime so we can chat about my dogs. They have an unmatched prey drive, and physical ability. You will not be disapointed. http://www.casadeltoro.net/
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HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: "One Out" Presa Canario's
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on: January 20, 2009, 04:34:19 pm
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Dog aggression can be a factor if they are not socialized from an early stage. Ours however are not dog aggressive at all. Obideince is a must. Ours all have formal obideice training. It is easier to bring out there prey drive and controll the aggression if you have complete controll of your dogs. Its like an "ON/OFF" switch. We train our dogs in the "One Out" style as well as together. This is just what I prefer because its more of a challange for me and my dogs. They love the challage of a big one. As you can see from the pics Zen is smaller and faster and more agile than Gage, but they both or extremely athletic and strong as bulls. I would love to bring em down one weekend so you can see just how they handle and work together, with each other and your dogs. You can check out the lin below to see a basic page of my website. It is currently under construction but should be up by this weekend. We are "One Out Kennels" please feel free to call me or email me if you want to talk or interested in a puppy. We will have pupps ready to go by April. I know a lot of people think they are expensive but we are looking for a select few to send them out to, at a discounted price. Mike http://www.oneoutkennels.com/
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HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / "One Out" Presa Canario's
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on: January 20, 2009, 12:06:55 pm
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here is a couple pics of my "one out" presa canario's. "Zen" the brown brindle is 10mnths old and 90lbs. he is super athletic. He can run and go all night long and never tires, and has a great prey drive. "Gage" the black brindle is almost 11mnths and is 110lbs. he is very athletic and has a great prey drive as well. Let me know what you think. IMG]http://i468.photobucket.com/albums/rr50/OneOutKennels/GageJan8th.jpg[/IMG]
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HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Looking for land
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on: January 20, 2009, 11:58:00 am
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Im looking for some land that i can run my dogs. they need some more training and im running out of space fast. Im in el paso, tx. any place within a 3 hr drive would be nice.
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THE CLASSIFIEDS / THE DOG TRADE / "One Out" Presa's
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on: January 17, 2009, 09:53:57 am
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As most of you know im new to the sport. It caught my eye and now im hooked. I am a breeder of Presa Canario's and am looking for someone who is willing to take on the responsibility of a great catch Dog. A "One Out" dog. Someone who will use one of our dogs. We will be having pupps by April and im looking for a good home to send one of our Presa's to. We want someone who will teach and train him. Normally these dogs run from $1500-$3000. We are asking someone just cover the cost of shipping or we can deliver him/her, and initial vet/cropping of the ears. It will total about $500-$750. If anyone is interested please email me at michaelacosta@oneoutkennels.com or call me at (915)373-6476 ask for Mike.
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HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Can anyone help me out?
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on: January 07, 2009, 02:38:25 am
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I've put my dogs on several pigs, domestic thats all we have here in El Paso Tx. about 40-60lbs in size. I need something that will spark there interest. Does anyone know where I can get some wild hogs? They do great at first until the pig realizes he's lost and then they just leave it alone. What else can I do to keep my dogs going?
Thanks for the help!
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HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: To all new members...
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on: January 07, 2009, 02:13:55 am
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Im trying to post pics and its not letting me. Its saying that my upload file is full how do I empty my upload folder so I can post my pics? Thanks for the assistance. Mike
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HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / presa's and hogs
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on: December 16, 2008, 09:09:07 am
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thanks for the recent posts to my last comments. anyways im still looking for someone to help me out. If any one is interested I happen to have some puppys, presa puppys that come from a great pedigree, that could possible be great catch dogs. If anyone is interested i can send photos. Call me at 915-373-6476 Mike
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