I can assure you that if you shock a dog WHILE  they are crunching on an armadillo,  it will not ruin your dog lol......

Using an e collar on a trashing dog is the quickest way I think to break a dog from trashing. I know you said you don't have one but maybe you could borrow one or pick one up pretty cheap some where. The little cheap ones work fine for these situations because normally you are pretty close to them if you know they are trashing on an armadillo. Just use your brain when using the shock collar. I do believe a dog can be ruined with one so be sure that you use it at that exact moment when they are in the wrong so that there is no mixed messages to the dog at all. My best dog was baying cattle really bad. I beat and banged and whooped with no ground gained. I put a collar on him and about two times of shocking him while in the act of baying cattle, he was done and will not even acknowledge them now. Just my two cents...Good luck bud

I am hunting in south central Oklahoma. You all make very good points. I run two yella dogs and my buddy always runs two also. I have thought that the number of dogs could be a problem. I think Peachcreek has a pretty good idea. We did catch a nice boar in the snow last night with some dog killers sticking out of his head.

This may sound stupid but only been hunting for about three years now, so I've a lot to learn yet. I'm thinking I know how my dogs bay, but could be wrong, as I only hunt at night and never get the chance to set and watch my dogs work. Here lately it seems every hunt I go on there is a couple mile race. Needless to say I'm getting flat tired of getting out ran by these wild A** pigs. It is pretty thick country. These dogs find pigs consistently....very consistently, but I think they are doing one of two things, and that is either putting too much teeth on them or not enough. I've never worked any of my bay dogs in a pin because I don't believe that you could really tell much about their "baying technique" in that type of setting, as it is not anywhere close to reality. Not saying I am right, that is just what I believe. Any thoughts???

I've been wanting one of those. Is the roll bar over the bed removable?

trying to find a clip on the internet but can't find anything. would really like to see them catching the feral cattle!!

Valley Creek Pro Cap Light. A little pricey but well worth the money to me. They are built tough and very very bright.

I find this really interesting. But i dont have clue how this worked back then. I mean, did you guys kind of consider these hogs yours? Would like to hear more about this please.

IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? IF SO, WHAT IS IT? ALL OUR DOGS STRIKE AND BAY. JUST SEE THEM REFERENCED BOTH WAYS, SO I'M CURIOUS. THANKS

I think it also helps not to keep them pinned next to or with one another. I also agree with YELLOWBLACKMASK though.

Where are you from?

My curs have been in tight quarters with numerous dogs of my hunting buddies and never thought twice about it. Been a little growlly a couple times but have never had to pull over for a dog fight between curs. I would never even attempt that with a bulldog. I havnt been at this for too long but if I could find a dog that caught as good as a pit, so that I wouldn't have to own one I would. They are a tool to me. I am not a bulldog lover at all. So my opinion of a bulldog being more aggressive than a cur is pretty biased. Ok, now I'm ready for the stones to be thrown.

I just got my first one this year and he is 6 months old right now and wound up like a nine day clock!! My plans were just to use him as a lead in catch dog, just as I do my pits. Do some of you guys actually hunt yours out with your cur dogs or buy them self?

Believe me, he didn't live to kill another dog. I feel that it might have turned into a bad problem in the future, had I not taken care of him. I just was wondering if I had female pits with my male curs if I would still have the same chance of problems happening. Example: I have double snapped opposite genders and led them away from a bay. (One being a cd) and not had problems. I tried that with two males and had to change things in a hurry. It could have just been that certain cituation. I'm not saying I disagree with all of your opinions, I just thought I would give an example as to why I thought what I was thinking. Thanks for the inputs

Sam was a ybmc and was like a friend not just a hunting dog. I'm not a bragger but he was one of the better hood dogs I had ever hunted with and had a handle so good you just didn't see very often. Only a 4 year old dog. I had went hunting Thursday night and had caught two boars with Sam and two other dogs. I was putting up my dogs at about 2am and noticed two little baby raccoons sitting on the top of the very end kennel. I didn't think anything about it and just let them be and went to the house. I had a male bulldog that was pinned next to Sam that was kind of worked up wanting to get to these coons when I had left the kennels but didn't think anything about it. I came out the next day to feed and this bulldog had manged to push his way through the wire at the top of his pin and into SAMs pin and had killed Sam. My guess is he was trying to make his way to the baby coons. Because there had never been any kind of dog aggression out of either one of these dogs. What worries me is that I would have never dreamed this bulldog would have ever done anything like this. This may sound weird but how do I trust another bulldog to not do something like this. I do know I will not pin another bulldog next to my curs. What are the chances of a female bulldog doing this? As I have only male bmc's. I'm thinking maybe of only keeping female catch dogs from now on. Something like this may never happen again, so I do realize I maybe blowing this out of proportion. Building better pins is also in the plans for the near future but I have had several bulldogs in this same pin and never had a problem. Just can't get this out of my head. Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks

   no need to holler about it  !!  lol 

LOL, SORRY HALFBREED...DIDN'T MEAN IT THAT WAY. I JUST KIND OF FIGURED IT WAS THAT WAY EVERY WHERE. IS IT NOT?

If she's two months bred, you should know sumpn in a couple days.

AROUND HERE, IF A LAND OWNER FINDS OUT YOUR TURNING HOGS LOSE, YOU MAY NOT HAVE A PLACE TO HUNT FOR LONG. I'VE GOT QUITE A FEW PLACES TOO HUNT AND THERE IS NOT ONE LAND OWNER THAT WOULD APPRECIATE ANYONE TURNING HOGS LOSE ON THEIR LAND OR ANY LAND AROUND IT. EVERY HOG WE CATCH IS DRUG OUT FOR THIS REASON. WE MAY LET SOME SHOATS LOSE EVERY NOW AND THEN BUT IT'S KEPT ON THE DL FOR SURE!!

WHOOPS! I GUESS IT WOULD HELP IF I READ IT A LITTLE BETTER! LOL

x2 halfbreed. A 17 year old kid shouldn't have to worry about supporting his parents imo!! But every teenager should have a job if at all possible!