I am friends with some of the Howard's that had these dogs. I also use to hunt them years ago if u could find one that would bay he was just waiting on some help. All of the ones we had were more or less running catch dogs. I was hunting with on of the guys a few weeks ago and we were talking bout the dogs and he said u could find any of the old stuff anymore. No body kept the line going. But u could hog,coon,or deer hunt them.