Not sure if I have ended up with a natural catch YBM gyp or not. Picked her up about a month ago, let her stay in the back yard for a week or two to learn some manners from momma's dog (1/2 Dogo, 1/2 Lacy) and get some socialization, this pup is 8 months old. I've included her in my liver drags with my 3 month old black/tan x bmc pups. She did alright the second and third time, but acted like she was bored. So today I put ole spot (shoat) in his protection cage and turned 1 pup and yeller gyp loose. no interest til I unleashed ole Sam that I bought from Doug Mason, and my 1/2 Dogo x 1/2 bmc TIG and they went to work baying up a storm. The pups came back and got in on the bay and was really getting into it. I tied Tig up (catch dog) up so he wouldn't catch and kill when i release ole spot.As soon as I did the race was on. Sam got to him first and bayed spot up at about 100 yds,the YBMC gyp stayed with spot like glue, baying tight also, then all of a sudden she caught an ear and locked down. Yal know how things  can get fast in a hurry, When Sam saw that  she was catching he decided to help, so he started catching on the other side. So I grabbed sam and tied him to a mesquite and went back to the scrap. Everytime I would just about get the pig tied, yeller gyp would come in for another bite. By this time I was wore out and let the pig loose hoping the gyp would just lay down with an ear and wear the shoat down, not a chance! They both took off running side by side with ear in mouth. I followed them for a couple hundred yards then lost sight, ( ima thinkin this wouldve been a good time for a tracking system!) I get back to the other dogs and get them back to the kennels and on water. Meanwhile my wife is running the roads surrounding our place, bout a 6 mile block, and I head back a foot in the general direction I last saw them, go about another mile and back. My wife calls and said she found them a mile further west than where I had just walked on the side of the road. yella gyp still had an ear in her mouth, shoat was wore slap out, and gyp acted like it was a walk in the park! Seems like this little gal has a surprise for me everytime I take her out for some basic track/find/bay training. I have to admit that this was my first rodeo on a deal like this. She showed me that shes got plenty of grit, and doesn't have any quit in her and she'll dang sure catch and lock down. Just hope when the time comes where she has to find her own pig instead of picking on ole spot, she'll be just as aggressive but will bay a little looser and bark so I can find her. and if she does catch, she learn to set back instead of running along side of the pork!

Personally, Ive never had the opportunity to own or even hunt behind a dog that cost 4k, but have hunted with dogs that were probably worth it. With that being said, if I would've known then what I know now, I would have to save for a while, but that's exactly how I would go. Like most everybody on here, I have a fortune invested in dogs, kennels, equipment, vet supplies, feed. A cull or a no-hunter will probably cost you more in disappointment, anger, frustration, depression, I could go on and on and still haven't added, the same investments  as what the high dolla dog will cost you to house them. I'd love to have 2-3 sure nuff go out and find a pig and hold it til I get there with my lead-in. So my point is this, if this dog proves to you when you go hunting with this feller, that she is everything he says she is, and you feel she will fit your deal, then I becomes a no brainer. My opinion, do exactly what the hands before me advised to a T. Then go bring home some pork for the house and pics/stories for us! Good luck to you and God bless!

It seems that there is an imaginary border from around Clovis, Nm that swoops southeast for a ways, then east around and through palo duro canyon all the way to the prairie dog town fork of the red river somewhere between silverton and south of claude. Then mostly on the south side of US 287 to Clarendon, then some on the north side but still mostly on the south side of 287 until you get to Memphis. Then the line goes north all the way up to Mclean and then northeast all the way up to Canadian, then across to Okla. These imaginary borders seem to be the borders (if you will) that the majority of the hogs stay south. Keep in mind that I figure this to be the northwest corner of the hog migration. When I first started hunting hogs with Bill Quisenberry from Amarillo in the early 90's, they hadn't reach this far north back then except a few here and there. That being said, what kind of dog do yal think would be be suited for this kind of country and weather conditions? Low to no humidity, almost always a little windy, very hot in summer and brass monkey cold in the winter. And one more thing, the dog has to be able to stop a runner quick because of property lines. I hunt about 95 percent at night, but thinkin I'll give daytime a try after deer season closes. PS, I run loose bay dogs and a lead-in. Let me hear some opinions from yal.

I never had a wheeler and never been around these gaters, mules, Polaris"s until recently, only to work out of on a friends ranch and it was the cats meow for that but not sure how it would be hunting. Ive always walked or rode mules. Ive had my mule up for the last week and a young man ride the fresh off her the last few days. I rode her around my pasture yesterday and I noticed that it seems its a lot further to the ground than it did last year! Ima thinking that above all, walking still just may be my favorite way to hunt!

That by far, is the funniest stories I have ever read! I am sorry for the rodent problem, but I haven't laughed this hard in years! What a sense of humor and having the ability to putting it on paper. Hat's off to ya!

Well, it is kinda/sorta intense, but when everybody's having fun, calling it training is way down on the totum pole. Ive learned just about every technique and little trick right here on this website, by reading what the ole timers and the true blue pro trainers and breeders post on this site. Besides that, huntin pigs and training hog dogs is about the only thing a Christian man can do for entertainment that's still moral and legal! Sorry fonzie, didn't mean to run off with your thread. God bless yal! 

When I got ole "Sam" from Mr Masons yard, I had kicked around breeding him to one of my gyps and even kicked around the idea of buying a Plott gyp and breeding her so I could some colder nose dogs because of the low humidity around here. He told me that Sam was no superstar but if a hog was around, he'd find it. And he has turned out to be exactly what Doug said, and exactly what I wanted in a puppy trainer. Well, during our move to this place, ole "Sam" and my lead-in catch dog ( 3/4 BMC and 1/4 APBT ) somehow exchanged flowers and the pups were on they're way. They hit the ground June 28 and they turned 11 wks old last Saturday. They all look like Sam, but have the fire of Gypsy. A friend down the road got 4, and I kept the other 4. Saturday morning I had thawed out some pork liver and gave them a sample, then drug a good sized piece for about 30 yards with a treat every 10ft or so to keep them going in the right direction. As soon as I let the little scamps out of the kennel, they're nose hit the ground, and they got to the end before I could get my phone video fired up! Did the same thing this morning but went about 60 yards with a curve about half way. The wind was kicking up pretty good but almost the same thing happened, except this time, when they got to the curve, they all started goofing off except the bigger male. He stayed hooked, I could tell the wind was throwing him off, plus his siblings were jacking around, but he stuck to it, and stayed with it to the end! He had most of the pile of liver slivers down before the others showed up! So after all this, I'd have to say in my opinion, that out of these four pups, Im gonna end up with some good dogs plus a little superstar in the bigger male. So genetics are a certain part of the equation for sure, but halfbreed's right on, when he says its what happens after you get them home. These guys will stay on liver for about 2 more weeks, and  only 2 at a time, then go train on scent/hide drag for a month, or until the are as big as my shoats, then, they'll be on the outside of my pen until I think they are ready to play in the big pen, again only 2 at a time. They'll train on the inside until they start getting to rough with my shoats, then its back to the outside of the little pen they go. By this time, I'll be taking the same 2 with ole Sam to the woods at least once a week. Everything that's happened up to this point, will continue to happen except for the liver part. The training for me and my dogs never ends, they might only reach a certain level and stop, but the training never stops. I hope this helps you out and gives you a different angle to chew on. PS, I aint no world class trainer or breeder, just a busted up ole ridge running cowboy that love his dogs, and mule. So, there's my 2 cents my friend, and good luck!

That, is the slickest trap set up I have ever seen. I hate to sound like an idiot, but I'm wondering how long yal are planning on keeping it set up at that location? Or will you move it from time to time? I'll set up a few corral traps in the fall but nothing as fancy or high tech as that, and leave them til spring, then prowel around for new spots for the next fall. Hats off to you fellers, dandy job!

I don't get on here and voice my opinion or interfere with yall conversations or threads very often ( only once or twice I reckon). And I allow, anything I say will make a dimes worth of difference any how, but I feel the need to speak up now. Everyone of us has issues between the races, having the maturity to control it, is another story. But this site isn't the place to try and sort it all out, nor is it the place to sling crap at each other in arguments (big difference than a friendly debate agreeing to disagree.). This place is where I escape too when I cant go hunting or I have to work in the morning. The information that can be gathered here, all over this sight is amazing and entertaining. The stories, info, and pictures that are on here are next to none. And if it weren't for you regulars and the moderators, and the old timers like halfbreed and Mr Mason and others, this place wouldn't be worth a flip, but it is and yall do. Every one of you guys and gals have something positive to contribute and you do from time to time and that's what makes this the very best hog doggin site on the web, bar none. It's sad to get on here tonight and read this stuff here. I know, I know, I can just click on to the next one and so on. It just eats on me to hear the fighting that's been going on here lately. Maybe it's the heat, cabin fever, or who knows whats going on. Hopefully fall will get here sooner than later. I'll hop off my soapbox and get back in my recliner and keep my mouth shut. PS. Im glad that feller found his Dogos.

I am sure there are others more knowledgeable about this sort of thing, but what Ive had to do was get some milk replacer (non medicated) from the feed store or if you can come up with raw goats milk. I like the goats milk better, but the milk replacer might be handier for you. We've had a mom or two that just didn't produce enough for the litter. And in a week or two, I'd put out a short pan of clean water with a little pedialite to maintain hydration. Hope that helps you, works for me.  Having said that, we've only had to do this to a couple first time mamas, next litter went fine, plenty of milk. One more thing, around the 4th or 5th week of pregnancy, I increase her food and put her on twice a day until a week after weaning.

I just talked to the guy in Clarendon that hunted with Mike, but turns out, it's the wrong Mike. He didn't know anything about the dogs you mentioned. Sorry I couldn't help you.

I am looking for an older dog that is sure nuff the real thing for my deal. First, it needs to get along with younger male dogs, second, it needs to be able to find a hog and bay it up til the pups get there to help. Third, it has to be trash broke, no exceptions. Fourth, he has to be short to med range at the most. Fifth and foremost, it needs to be silent on the track till he's looking at the hog. He can or doesn't have to catch, just hold them and keep the hog from breaking til the pups or I get there with a lead-in, which he wont have to wait long. Sixth, he'll need to leave my mule alone while we're hunting. I am sure there are these kind of dogs available, and this is the best place to find one I figure. Ive never had to use a tracking system and although a handy gadget for them long range dogs, I really don't want one, unless its the kind that I can send an electrical "NO" to a distracted pup. My comfort zone is to hunt in about 300 yds to 1/4 mile circle, unless down on the river. I would prefer the dog to be Catahoula, BMC, Lacy,  even crossed with a little Plott or Walker, as long as they're quite til they get on a hot track. If anybody has one that might fit this deal, holler at me and we'll talk about it. Since I mention an older dog, he doesn't have to move fast, just steady. He needs to be in good health and have all his business teeth. I hunt at night in the winter and daytime in the spring and fall, several times a week, so he cant be over the hill on his last leg. Hit me up and lets see what happens. PS. This dog will be for me and for me only and will not be sold, gave away, or culled. That's why I am posting all the particulars now to avoid any BS down the road. Also, I'll want to try him with the owner in the woods with cash in hand, so we'll both know what im looking for, if this post isn't specific enough. My number 806-626-6683, I am up most nights and afternoons, so if I don't answer, i'll call back. My email is bootheel@live.com and is checked daily and first thing of the morning, if you want to send pics. Thank you all and thank you ETHD. Also, thanks for all the advice and experiences yall share on here.

You bet, be glad too. I don't remember what all they had back then. I do know that after the first time I went with them, I was hooked! I bought my first, sure nuff strike/bay dog from them, and they gave me 2 blue pups that were cat/bmc crosses, plus a leg/jaw catch dog, lol! Not sure whether to thank them or curse them, (just joking)! Ive hunted hogs since the early 90's with a gun until I went with them and figured out what I had been missing out on. Now it's about the only fun thing a busted up ole guy like me can do and still be legal and moral at the same time! Ive since evolved to crossing my dogo to my 3 females, 1 cat, 1 lacy, and 1 bmc/pit. I am in an area where there are quite of few hogs, but because of the deer hunting, it's tough to get on very much country to hunt with dogs. I do have access to about 2000 acres I can run on but I am also trapping the same areas. So I am attempting to get a cross (like everybody else it seems) that will strike quick, bay quick, and keep a hog bayed up, and catch if it needs to stop a runner, until I can get to them with my lead-in. They need to be able to do all this before they cross property lines! We have 10 acres that is covered in cedars/mesquite real thick on our place and I am fixing to fence it off to mock hunts, plus put in a bay pen on one end. Anyway, I didn't mean to talk your ear off, just got carried away. I work nights and when I'm not out with the dogs, I am in the shack reading the post on this forum, that's how I came across yours. If any of you ole timers out there have an opinion on my plans, please fire away, everybody's welcome and I got thick skin!

Ive hunted with a Mike from Clarendon, but talked to his hunting partner about a month ago and he said that Mike moved back to the Dallas area. Next time I see him, I'll tell him about your post. I know they had some good dogs and we caught every time I went with them, just a little too long range for me. But they had a lot more country to hunt then I do.

One coming 16 yr old append. papered grey gelding that has Easy Jet on the papers. Still going strong, been pasture roped off, sorted cattle, feedlot work. Good horse for adults and teenagers that know how to ride. $1200 . 13 yr old bay, good papered horse. Ranch work, pasture rope, sort cattle and will watch a cow pretty good. Good horse for adult or teenager that know how to ride. $1500, all reasonable offers concidered. Will trade for guns, tracking systems, reloading equip, pipe, etc of equal value. Call/text before 10pm 806-626-6683, or email at bootheel@live.com. for pics/info,Thanks

9 wk old 1/2 Dogo, 7/16 Bmc, 1/16 Pit puppies ready to go! Only 3 left, 2 brindle males $200 ea. and 1 female, black/with white chest $175. Please call/text for pics and info, 806-626-6683, or email at bootheel@live.com, checked daily. PICK UP ONLY, thanks

For sale 3 yearling pups, should make good rcd. Call or text 806-626-6683 for pics, or email at bootheel@live.com. 1 male-$175, 2 females-$150 ea. Thanks

Born 8 Jan 13, be ready by the first week of March. All pups will have their 2nd shots, wormed, and started on Sportmix Puppy Food. Dad is full blood Dogo, mom is 3/4 BMC, 1/4 Pit. Parents are proven lead-in cd's, and are on the premises. 2 male brindles-$250 each, 1 female brindle-$225, the rest are females, dark brown/black with white splash, and may brindle out.-$200 each. These pups have all the makings for jam up rcd or lead-in's, or the family dog. Taking deposits ($50) and started a list, call/text 806-626-6683 or email (bootheel@live.com) and put PUPS in subject line. Ive a crazy schedule and cant always answer my phone but leave message and I'll hollar back. Email is checked daily, serious inquiries only please. Will consider trade as long as it dont eat, unless its a good mule!, ie. guns, garmin, saddles and tack, etc. Thanks