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With these kinds of Bro x Sister breeding's, you can lock down the part of the gene pool you are wanting to keep what they are known for, and they are great brood dogs to boot most of the time with abuility to pass on the traits their bloodliens are known for.  Ive only made two Bro x Sister breeding's in my lifetime with the hog dogs and Bulldogs.  The first one I learned a big lesson like I was referring to up there on my other post. Dogs with all the prey drive in the world but dogs that lost their tools to get the job done because of the heavy inbreeding and they were heavy bred already when i done it.  Like someone was saying Overheating easy that comes with breeding like this among a lot of other internal defects that do not shine in your face on the outside of the dog.  Good dogs but no HEALTH with all the want to in the world but again no tools to get it done.  On the other hand, when a bitch was taken and completely outcrossed into a line of dogs that was a known cross that worked.  Oh man here come the heroes.  Dogs that had it all she passed on the great traits her brother x sister bloodline was known for and the cross that she was bred to enhanced it that much more.  All the tools that the brother x sister breeding did not have now this offspring had them times two.  I just done my second Bro x Sister breed here about three weeks ago but this time these dogs are half and half to begin with Norman Kemmer male x a pure Cardenas bitch the two lines are made in different ways but go back to a lot of the same old blood six are seven generations ago but using different dogs over the years.  In other words, the same kind of old blood but coming through different veins of the same old bloodline with some different crosses through the years. Am hoping to lock down the traits that both bloodlines are known for in one set of pups.  I know people that has made breeding's just like this one and brother the dogs are machines.  Not inbred on top of heavy heavy line bred but heavy line bred with crosses and then inbred Bro x Sister.

If a brother x sister is already heavy linebred and a ton of close family has been bred to make them through the years with very little outcross influence that is why sometimes you get into trouble.  You see a lot of undershot, not much Vigor, no natural wind and a host of other problems they loose their tools to work. They will have the prey drive and the noses to compete but not physical tools to get it done.  They were tight to begin with now they are double staked on dogs that were stacked to make them in the first place. On the other hand.  If you got a Brother X Sister and the dogs behind them have been somewhat to loose linebred with crosses introduced through the years of making them.  Now is when a lot of those will turn out very well. Why? Because the gene pool has more room to breathe from the cross blood that was introduced though the years to make them and because of that they loose no tools keep the same prey drive and a lot of times make some of the best dogs ever seen.  In this kind of Brother x Sister breeding, you are not only doubling the loose linebred blood that is in there, but you are also doubling the cross blood and that makes a big difference.

There’s some screen grabs from video of the first hog Monday. That .44 becomes an extension of my arm after carrying it everywhere for the last 10+ years. It may get to see one more hunt next Friday with some cattle customers of Tim’s from Kansas and Missouri that want to come hog hunting.

After that it is destined for the wall, want to do a shadow box type deal with pictures and sketches collar. Gun saw her first year and her final, and killed more than a thousand in front of her.


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   That's a pretty good hog Slim, glad everything survived even with the old cow dog getting punched, hope she does okay. Who's your young helpers?

I had to haul a horse for coggins and health cert for the man that owns her today, she greeted my in the yard when I pulled up so she seems to be doing okay.

The young helpers are the land owners daughter and son, Bellamy and Stetson. 10 and 6 or so I believe. This is 2nd or 3rd time I’ve gotten to take dogs out there and pack them around with me. Done some good and had a good time every time. I have done a good bit of work for their dad the last 3 years and we have become decent friends for a 20ish year age gap.

His name is Ben Besch. I’m not sure he was ever on the board, but he is privy to it as he used to hog hunt. He knew and hunted with Mike Bolen and Jim Hilscher(atleast some)and had some dogs at one time. I know he actually at one point was feeding my old sketch dogs grandma from Mike Bolen there at his ranch in Rosanky. I am drawing a blank on that dogs name but it is mentioned somewhere on this board.


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   That's a pretty good hog Slim, glad everything survived even with the old cow dog getting punched, hope she does okay. Who's your young helpers?

Slim it might be on post it’s a lot to read are your dogs open on track or silent

Most all of them will chirp once they’re jumped, one pup a litter or so will be a little more trail driven than cast dog, they typically will open on hot tracks as young dogs, but I haven’t had anything not grow out of it yet.


It’s a very fluid situation lol.


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Slim it might be on post it’s a lot to read are your dogs open on track or silent

   That’s real running and gunning, sometimes I would carry my lever gun, it’s a 16” barrel Marlin. Real handy in tight brush, but I like being hands free, so I almost always carry my pistol. That means when I use it, me and the hog are close enough that we’re breathing the same air. A couple times I’ve just pressed it right up against them.

   Your camera man will get better with more experience, I like to video the bay/catch because things happen so fast I forget all the details of how things play out. It gives me an opportunity to review the action and maybe learn something that might help me in the future.

You and the dogs did real good, that kill shot is epic. That boar is a real one.

That wasn’t even the shot that put him down. Took one more. Luckily that little gyp of mine never turned loose of him. He was about to his hole in the fence. And we were without collars or lights, and he had caught the landowners old cow dog gyp in the thorax. Minor deal but she was lunging and had to be closed up.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1DpSAmTpDi/?mibextid=wwXIfr there is video. My Videographer was the land owners 6 year old little boy.


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How are Goose and Tiny bred?


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Goose is sketch x your Ray. Tiny is out of some cow dog blood.


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