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Tdog isn’t advanced! He’s been lucky!!! Cajun on the other hand, he’s the professor. You know what they say, everybody wants to be like Mike.

I think the size of your program and your outlet for puppies has to play a role in your breeding strategies. I watched an interview with Dan Braman and he had an accidental breeding. The pups are outstanding according to him so he had to DNA all his male dogs to figure out which dog was the sire so he could do a repeat breeding lol. He said the male he would’ve eventually bred but not the female more than likely. Now that she produced some all stars he’s changed his mind I guess. Just goes to show what nature knows I guess.


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I try to keep them clean year round. I had a gyp once that wouldn’t ever take. I wasn’t hunting her because I didn’t want to chance losing her before I got pups out of her. Took her and had her checked by a vet and he said he didn’t see anything that was wrong with her. The studs I tried her with both produced before and after trying her. She wasn’t couch potato fat but heavier than you would want to hunt her. An old man said to pull her down to a hunting weight and see what happened. Like magic she took. I should’ve kept her fat! I give 1cc of Ivomec (under the skin) to a 45-50 pound gyp 2 weeks into her pregnancy and again 2 weeks before whelping. This was what my greyhound buddy and his veterinarian partner figured out with the greyhounds except they did 2cc on the greyhound gyps. I try to put weight on my females starting a couple weeks after I have them bred. I continue to feed soaked feed too. I will likely always feed soaked feed to all my dogs. I believe it makes a difference.


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What do yall do if anything special with a gyp that you are planning on breeding? I like to have a little extra weight on gyp that I am planning on breeding when she starts coming in I will give her a 10n1 shot and worm her good have had pretty good luck with this I have a cur gyp put up right now waiting on her to come in to breed just wondering what everybody else does if anything to breed a gyp

I have known some people if they make a cross and it works good they will make it every chance they get i believe for sure that every time they make cross they turn out different then I have known people who very rarely make the same cross twice I am more on board with this group because not being able to keep a big number of dogs and not hunting as hard as I use to  you get in corner real quick on your breeding program thats just my opinion and I am not nearly as advanced in breeding and stuff as cajun and tdog is just my thoughts

I don’t get to hunt like I use to for a variety of reasons. That’s why having a good circle of like minded friends is so valuable to me. I don’t have to keep so many dogs to keep the family going. Yu know ike i know, some dogs just don’t reproduce well. Some matings no matter the quality of the pair being bred, just don’t niche. If you get too much of one thing and it doesn’t niche or doesn’t reproduce well, then you’re in a bind. I love my older dogs, they are what has continued to keep it fun for me, but I also love to watch the progression of the young dogs. I try to leave the oder dogs in the box as much as I can once I think the younger dogs make me think they can do it. Once they are really doing it on their own I will cast old and young both. It usually pushes both to be better because they all seem to want to be top dog and they hustle harder. They may all leave out headed south, but by the time they are 3-400 yards out, they covering a swath 2-300 yards wide (usually). I love that because it usually gets a hog found in shorter order and I feel like  fewer hogs get missed.  Now and then though, we will get a young dog that seems to always be out of place and misses being at bays more than they are there. What I think I figured out is that they are suer independent and competitive. If the cast goes south then they go north. Once they are get out far enough then they can’t hear the bay that is equally as far the opposite direction from us. What started doing with those dogs is casting them first in the direction I want them to go and let them get bayed or settled into hunting good and then casting the other dogs. That usually fixes it after a few times. It’s kinda like that dog that’s excitable and hot footed that hits the ground barking and sprinting to nowhere out of excitement. Cast them
first and solo a few times and it usually corrects itself. Hunting them more held too but that isn’t always an option. That’s our approach.


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T Dog I do try to stay with proven crosses altho like you said they are not always proven. I had a Nite Ch. Plott gyp and bred her to a Grand nite Ch. male. That first cross was great and I kept the worst one of the litter. He would tree squirrels and coons but just didnt have the go to them. Two out of that litter went to competition hunters and made Nite ch. out of them and others went to pleasure hunters but they made coon dogs. I make that same cross again and there was only one in that 2nd cross that made a coon dog. So much for proven crosses but overall I will stick to them.
  Twice in my life I have come close to running out of dogs and swore that would never happen again. I keep enough  now that I cannot hunt them all but have enough variety in them that I can breed to different studs and not back myself into a corner although they are all related. The only time I really need that many is Feb. when we really run into alot of boars in the marsh  and have to lay alot up from injuries.
  I find myself leaving trained dogs at home just to hunt the young dogs.

That’s awesome to hear. It’s amazing to me how instinctive purpose bred dogs can be. It sure makes it hard for anyone to argue against it.  I sure hope you get pups out of those two young gyps before you can’t, especially the Sassy pup, Sissy I think you called her. Do you make many repeat breedings and if so do you think you get the same results each time? I personally don’t. My logic is that I only raise enough dogs to keep my circle in supply. If I breed a good producing female back to the same dog repeatedly then I’m going to get bred into a corner pretty quick if I’m not careful. Half siblings are still pretty darn close and even closer when you take into account that the different studs are all related as well. At one point I had 3 dogs of hunting age and one 6 month old pup. Momma and 3 of her offspring, each out of a different stud and litter. They all 3 made really nice dogs by my standards. I have pups out of the older two bred to other dogs in the family but will never get any out of the youngest gyp. I ended up letting my buddy Kohl have her. He made a really nice dog out of her but he lost her recently. Each litter was a little different in some way, but each litter was very strong. I’ve seen it in game chickens, horses, and dogs where just because a cross worked well the first time, it wasn’t the same the next. I was also scared that would happen to me and I would’ve lost time and opportunity on a mating that wasn’t a necessity.


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She had her pups from the Trapper semen almost a year ago.  They started early, the female and male I kept have done well until I had to lay them up for deer season. They are pretty gritty for hog dogs so dont know how long they will last. The female Sissy got really cut up pretty bad on a boar hog we caught right before season. I had another young gyp that got gutted on that hog but she survived despite me and Scotty Needhams Veterinarian skills.  They didnt learn anything because they caught my hog in the pen which was about a 140# with 1 1/2" cutters and got cut up on him.  Joe Hudson got a female and hunted her on bear from 7 months old and by the time season ended told me she was as good as he has seen for her age. She was rigging and cold trailing real early. He also wants me to make the same cross again.
  Sassy is a 1/2 sister to Chief out of the Oak dog. Those are two of the young guns I had posted. The third is Rip and he has everything the other two have except he is not as coldnosed. I sold him over to Sweden and they like him pretty good.

When is your Sassy gyp supposed to welp Cajun? That breeding has me a little excited and they don’t even have any border collie in them.


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That’s one heck of a dog!