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Hog Dog Mike
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« on: December 27, 2009, 11:09:55 am »

Amen to the females. I boarded and trained a female setter for a doctor here in Tyler. I wound up with this dog when he relocated. To be honest I was never really that much of a setter man but a pointer man.

The doctor had her with a bad trainer that told him she was worthless. There was nothing wrong with the dog that groceries would not cure. I got her fed up and sent her to the prairie in Oklahoma with a training friend for the summer. When she got back she was ready and I broke her easy easy.

I was helping a guy train some dogs and doing a little guide work down at the King Ranch. He had this male setter down there that was the best one I ever laid eyes on. I breed that male to my bitch.

She had 8 pups and every single one of them was outstanding. Bred her again and she had 7 and every single one of them was outstanding. She was a daughter of  Ch Im Oscar ---the very heart of the Smith Setter breeding. Elwin G Smith had a good program and it showed in that female. If she had been the first bird dog I had ever owned I would have never had any kind of pointer. There is no telling how many pups I trained to back using her. When she parked it she stayed parked.

Everybody thinks that Elhew pointers are the best there is. I have trained several and owned a few. Many of them are just plain crazy and too tender for my needs.

If you can find somebody that has a history of breeding good dogs and you know for a fact that the dogs you observed came from his kennel that is the way to go. If you can find a repeat breeding out of a great producing female jump on it. Watch out for "brood bitches". Lots of times that is a cull that they use for breeding because they are hunting their good bitches.
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